I've played many hours with villain in this hand. Older Korean man who I would say is pretty decent, has a good idea where he's at in a hand, but seems to run pretty bad every time I play with him.

Game started off tight but the action has picked up the last few rounds.

I'm on button with K 10

UTG+1 villain limps, killer checks option, 1 mp call, I call button, SB mucks, BB completes.

Five to the flop

10 3 7

Checked to villain who bets, killer calls, mp folds, I raise to get more money in pot because I believe I have the best hand.

BB calls, villain three bets, folded to me and I call, as does BB.

Turn is A

Villain bets.

Our action?

If we call here, do we call a red Queen on river?

EP PF Limp range for villain would be nice.

But on the flop, bets ,,,then reraises you. What do you beat? Does he often bluff/semi-bluff a FD? Obviously he's not doing the nut FD here so discount.....

Assuming your image (in his eyes) is pretty solid, what range does he give you when you raise flop?

If solid with villain not going off the beaten trail often, what do you beat here on the flop?

I would raise pre flop.

I need a little more info on villian. Can he have T2s? Is he overly agro.

It's tough to say what to do on the river with the BB still in the hand.

Eww raise pf.

Flop is fine.

Fold turn.

Villain is fairly tight. I rarely see him show down garbage unless he's in the blinds. I don't think he's overly aggro, but he does value bet pretty thin it seems.

Range here should be small-med pocket pairs, suited ten and up / or with broadway cards, and would most likely have raised any pair JJ+ pre-flop so I don't think that's part of his range. I have seen him limp 1010 before.

Villian has been doing a lot more limping hand than usual and I believe a part of that is because he's been running bad and it's thrown off his game.

+1

raise pf
call turn
fold to any further raises

The reason i advocate calling down is simply because you should be near the top of your limping range pf here beside maybe ATo (you raise ATs i hope right ?)?
If you fold this it means you probably fold like 95 % of your limping range to a single raise.
I mean are you like 90% sure he would never 3bet flop with QT, J9s or same hand as you ?

Are you seriously worried about being exploited by limpers? I'm not.

I'd raise preflop without considering any other option.

I think the turn is a fold but I've never played a kill game in my life.

Villain suppose to be decent.?!

It seems a turn fold is ok against this guy. You still have the BB who called two cold on the flop yet to act as well.

Why would it make a difference if this is a kill pot? I suppose some people play dfferently but we don't know about this guy.

btw we have outs to 2 pair or trips so we cant at least fold the turn

The turn bettor isn't scared of the Ace, this alone should really discount our two pair and trip outs. You gonna raise a non flush ten or King? I that would be bad. You have a draw to a bluffcatcher in a multiway pot and the only way you win unimproved is when the river checks through. It's not a good hand.

He limped in. That alone right there immediately identifies him as being bad at limit holdem. If he can have something like JTx on the turn to beat us out of the pot with, then so be it. Make a note and then adjust if you see him overplaying something like that.

To assume a limper is decent seems illogical to me.

bah, EP in FR game i could see myself limping if others are real bad as well.
Ok i am not super good but i know i am still up tho.

Raise preflop
Flop fine
Turn, I'm lazy here but I'd probably see a river card at 13+:1 (arbitraryish) and fold otherwise.

Thanks for the input.

I have in the past and will continue to raise the glorious K10s, especially in position, but I decided to limp this time because.

As played I called three bet flop, called turn, came to my senses on the river and folded. I should have folded the turn.

All i'm beating on the river is a weaker 10, which I doubt would have gave me that much action, and a busted 8-9 OESD.

you actually can fold the turn, and you should

Surely it can be okay to limp some hands if pots regularly go off 6-7 handed?
Hands like 22-66, Axs, 78s, 89s, T9s, JTs, QJs, KTs?

Sure, but to think "oh **** this guy might exploit me if I fold too much." is just absurd imo. The vast majority of opponents that you see limp first in will be bad poker players. With each passive action they further pigeon hole themselves.

It's not though. If he was at a table full of pros he is undoubtedly terrible. But he could easily be decent relative to the player pool where this hand took place. I see this term butchered a lot on this forum. When someone says a villain is "decent" it almost universally implies that he plays better than most of the other regulars, but is not an LHE wizard - and I think that is a fair description. It also implies that he's not a drooler or a maniac.

As far as hand goes:

This is a slam dunk raise pre. You have to ask yourself why you aren't raising here pre if you usually do raise this hand. I think your game flow feel would determine how I'd play the flop and beyond. Raise/Call flop is fine. You say Villain is "off his game," so I'd be more inclined to call down even after the turn came bad for us. If he's on his C-game he's just far more likely to overplay hands we beat, although he probably has more flushes in his range also.

Raise pre flop, call turn eval river

As a general rule i hate K 10 in limit games. Yes on the button I am raising with it but the hand just plays so poorly post flop when you make a one pair hand. I just fold the turn and probably don't put as many bets on flop as most. When I have marginal hands unlikely to improve much on later streets I choose pot control and would much rather flop a draw with all suited mid broadway combos

I agree with this.

There's really no right answer on the turn action without some reads (at least generic reads of what a "typical" player of this type might have).

I mean, you have showdown value against bluffs and two pair outs against non-aces up two pairs. So if the turn bettor's range contains a fair amount of these, you call. If it doesn't you fold.

It's not a hard spot, it's just a totally read-dependent one.