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Seems like we're talking about which AXo hands to defend the BB HU vs an EP raiser, but jon_locke is talking about completing K2o in the SB after limpers?

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01-23-2017 , 01:31 AM

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There was a new post about defending A-rag vs EP raise.

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01-23-2017 , 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rodeo

Seems like we're talking about which AXo hands to defend the BB HU vs an EP raiser, but jon_locke is talking about completing K2o in the SB after limpers?

Yes, but I do both at a 100% frequency (excluding having a leg up button).

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01-23-2017 , 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rodeo

Seems like we're talking about which AXo hands to defend the BB HU vs an EP raiser

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Originally Posted by phunkphish

There was a new post about defending A-rag vs EP raise.

????

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01-23-2017 , 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon_locke

Yes, but I do both at a 100% frequency (excluding having a leg up button).

Are you defending any Axo hu? Multiway? Or do you need a little bit of kicker?

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01-23-2017 , 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Two loose passives limp ep, folded to me in SB, I have K2o

Several players limp, we have K2o in SB

Two loose passives limp in HJ and CO, I have K2s on the button.

Yesterday I thought of this thread, as I completed K3o in the SB after 4 limpers in my loose passive 4/8 game. The board ran out KT7 3 K. LOL!

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01-23-2017 , 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by daveopie

Yesterday I thought of this thread, as I completed K3o in the SB after 4 limpers in my loose passive 4/8 game. The board ran out KT7 3 K. LOL!

did you lose to K7?

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01-23-2017 , 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Are you defending any Axo hu? Multiway? Or do you need a little bit of kicker?

What's the difference between A6 and A2?

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01-24-2017 , 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

What's the difference between A6 and A2?

It matters a little when they open 22-55 in EP, which lots of "pros" do

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01-24-2017 , 03:52 AM

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A6 can't make a straight. The 2 in A2 can get counterfeited.

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01-24-2017 , 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by phunkphish

A6 can't make a straight. The 2 in A2 can get counterfeited.

A6 wins extra bets on 2345 boards vs. AK.

My point is that any rag ace is similar when worried about domination. Turns out the have pairs/K hi/Q hi/J hi/etc a lot in early position.

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01-24-2017 , 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon_locke

It matters a little when they open 22-55 in EP, which lots of "pros" do

Pros are opening 22-55 in EP. Is this a once in a while thing or as a default?

I raise 77+ in ep.

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01-24-2017 , 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Pros are opening 22-55 in EP. Is this a once in a while thing or as a default?

I raise 77+ in ep.

Not pros, "pros", heater riding fish who quit their jobs cause poker too easy.

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01-24-2017 , 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Pros are opening 22-55 in EP. Is this a once in a while thing or as a default?

I raise 77+ in ep.

Just stick with 77 and you'll be fine.

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01-24-2017 , 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

A6 wins extra bets on 2345 boards vs. AK.

LoL.

a2 < a3 > a4 <a6 < a5

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01-24-2017 , 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by phunkphish

LoL.

a2 < a3 > a4 <a6 < a5

This just made all my mathematical sensibilities hurt.

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01-24-2017 , 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phunkphish

LoL.

folding BB to UTG open<a2 < a3 > a4 <a6 < a5

Improved your post.

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01-24-2017 , 10:26 PM

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We talking UTG 5 handed? 9 handed?

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01-25-2017 , 12:35 AM

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We talking UTG 5 handed? 9 handed?

Yes.

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01-25-2017 , 10:49 AM

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Limped pots in the small blind? You can rip 95o out of my cold dead hands. I'm not so sure about the Cali drop though, probably makes many of the hands that I'd call unprofitable.

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01-30-2017 , 12:49 PM

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Guy limps UTG 9 handed, Ultra loose passive fish raises +2. His range is strong here, probably like 99+/AK (maybe AQ and 88, but I don't think so. Definitely not like AJ/77 IMO). Thinking player who studies the game cold calls with a very defined range of hands (your suited aces / suited connectors / low to mid PP type hands that want MW action and thinks it can get it at this table). We have 88 in the CO with loose players in the blinds.

We do what?

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01-30-2017 , 01:08 PM

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Call.

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01-30-2017 , 01:58 PM

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Your job is probably to get set over set with the thinking player and take advantage of the fact that he probably just 3 bets most of the PP hands better than yours. Limp, tight raise, defined cc, and you don't have 3 betting equity... you're likely getting both blinds? Good game. ~6:1 expected immediate odds makes set mining fine.

Flop 842 and get to the turn 5 ways for 4 bets. Profit.