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12-19-2010 , 12:18 AM
if it aint broke dont fix it. if i were you'd i'd do what i know best and just make incremental adjustments if needed. btw your stats will vary at the higher limits due to the increased aggression in the game (eg i'd expect your vpip to drop a bit as its going to raised or 3bet by the time it gets to you more often).

and remember, regs dont fold any pair HU postflop v other regs at 2/4
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12-19-2010 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1peterdragon
My 40 wtsd seems high
Actually, it's fine. Although, like just about everything, it depends on your preflop play, your postflop play, your game selection, your seat selection, and probably some other stuff. Some people will get crushed trying to show down 40+%, others will be profitable.

All 7-10 handed:


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My blind play needs a lot of work but in not sure where to start.
The obvious starting point are your defending ranges (in the BB) vs. common opening ranges. Next, think about 3bets (SB+BB), including whether you want to 3bet from the BB at all or just a portion of your strong hands or...

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All full ring


Your preflop numbers look pretty good, IMO. I wouldn't CC nearly as often in LP and almost never in MP, but see Ozi's post: if it aint broke dont fix it. I also 3bet my SB a little more often but that just goes back to the above... it depends on your seat selection, your ability to play OOP, etc.

IMO you should focus on postflop play - after all, postflop > preflop and your preflop game looks pretty good overall.
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12-19-2010 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grromit
I also 3bet my SB a little more often but that just goes back to the above...
I checked your ptr the other day
Kudos on crushing the game.
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12-20-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Elpe Nixe
I checked your ptr the other day
Kudos on crushing the game.
what is the screen name?
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12-22-2010 , 01:44 PM
Elpe: You're doing a very good job yourself. Nice work.

normalcy: I'm not sure I want my SN to be searchable, so I'll PM you. The uHULA folks know it anyway.
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12-23-2010 , 10:46 PM
Hey guys, I've been waiting till I hit 10k hands before I post my stats so I have a decent sample size. Finally hit 10k today so here we go:

Here's some background info on me. I never deposited, started off playing freerolls on FTP in the summer. I had some success, at least won enough to get me started. I hit a peak of 20$ on FTP after placing 5th in the horse freeroll for a whopping $7.50. Being pretty inexperienced at the time and very tilt prone, i continued to lose most of my money. I staked my friend about 3 buyins into the $1+.20 sngs so when he got money on pks, I asked him to pay me back there. After going on to tilt away the rest of my money on ftp playing .5/.10 FL I switched over to the .02/.04 FL games on pks with my $3 roll.

I was extremely careful and played one table at a time. My strategy was to sit down with .50 and leave when I hit $1.00. If I did that twice I'd stop for the day, and if i lost 2BI I'd stop (I understand its not the smartest approach, but its very results oriented and with such a small BR I cudn't take any risks). As my bankroll grew I started playing longer sessions but I was still only 1-tablin.

I'd usually sitdown at a table HU or 3-4handed (could explain the high VPIP). I played very Loose in the beginning, limping a lot of pots and folding postflop if I didnt hit anything (very fishy) but for some reason it worked?

I was consistently winning until Thanksgiving, thats the pretty big slide u see in the 6k hands. For personal reason I was very tilted those few days and just wasnt playing my best poker, really set me back in my progress. But I came around starting in December.

Once I hit $25 in my BR, i started to spread out and try out new things, plus I was considerably better educated after becoming a 2p2 aficionado. At about 9k hands, i began 4-tabling and my VPIP significantly dropped, for the past few sessions I've been holding 32/12.

So I guess I'm just trying to figure out why I have stats like a fish but consistently winning? I would also like to hear any other comments, critique, etc..

For 2011, my goals are to continue and start moving up in limits, I have no set goal yet and probably won't set one, just to keep playing and keep consistently winning.


Forgot to mention, this is all 6M, but I figure you can see that through the stats







4-tabling

Last edited by belakar; 12-23-2010 at 11:06 PM.
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12-24-2010 , 12:34 PM
--- Tough love to follow ----

Do you pay attention to the action in front of you, or is any hand you'd open or limp in an unopened pot good enough to cold call, as well? You open limp more hands than you raise UTG 6 handed.

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So I guess I'm just trying to figure out why I have stats like a fish but consistently winning? I would also like to hear any other comments, critique, etc..
You show down a ton for loose games and won a big % at SD. Your stats encourage others to play in pots with you, so I assume you aren't winning a bunch of pots w/o SD. Even in soft games, I suspect you're running hot.

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At about 9k hands, i began 4-tabling and my VPIP significantly dropped, for the past few sessions I've been holding 32/12.

For 2011, my goals are to continue and start moving up in limits, I have no set goal yet and probably won't set one, just to keep playing and keep consistently winning.
I have zero experience at .02/.04 or .05/.10 and the games slightly above. By .25/.50, these stats would have you losing at a >> 2BB/100 clip, I'd guess. So, you have to look at how you're playing and why. If this seems to work at .02/.04, a change may hurt your short term results.

You're a loose-passive player preflop. You are barely positionally aware. You ignore the action that happens in front of you; you actually cold call a wider range than you'd open yourself. The good news may be that you've learned how to play post flop b/c of all the tough spots you're putting yourself into preflop (harder to tell from stats).

My first step would be to stop cold calling. Next, look at hands you're limping, especially UTG. About 1/3 of the hands you're limping aren't worth playing. Many of the rest are worth raising. You can keep overlimping, but playing 6m, start out never opening for a limp.

Don't forget the session reviews. Good luck.
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12-24-2010 , 01:02 PM
is anyone going to look and comment on my stats please
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12-24-2010 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
--- Tough love to follow ----

Do you pay attention to the action in front of you, or is any hand you'd open or limp in an unopened pot good enough to cold call, as well? You open limp more hands than you raise UTG 6 handed.



You show down a ton for loose games and won a big % at SD. Your stats encourage others to play in pots with you, so I assume you aren't winning a bunch of pots w/o SD. Even in soft games, I suspect you're running hot.



I have zero experience at .02/.04 or .05/.10 and the games slightly above. By .25/.50, these stats would have you losing at a >> 2BB/100 clip, I'd guess. So, you have to look at how you're playing and why. If this seems to work at .02/.04, a change may hurt your short term results.

You're a loose-passive player preflop. You are barely positionally aware. You ignore the action that happens in front of you; you actually cold call a wider range than you'd open yourself. The good news may be that you've learned how to play post flop b/c of all the tough spots you're putting yourself into preflop (harder to tell from stats).

My first step would be to stop cold calling. Next, look at hands you're limping, especially UTG. About 1/3 of the hands you're limping aren't worth playing. Many of the rest are worth raising. You can keep overlimping, but playing 6m, start out never opening for a limp.

Don't forget the session reviews. Good luck.
Thanks for the feedback and Happy Holidays
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12-26-2010 , 06:49 PM
Full Ring .25/.50

If I can figure out how to convert the positions csv file to a jpg, I'll put that in later.

I started off great, but lately I feel like I couldn't hit water if I fell out of a boat. It was just going sideways and now downward. I feel disgusted when I see how much rake I'm paying versus what I'm winning. Maybe my expectations are too high.

I know I'm not c-betting the flop enough. I'm working on upping my overall aggression, but I always seem to pick the wrong spots. I'm working on learning to fold scary rivers instead of paying off to see and confirm my reads. I am also going to try to loosen up to around 24% vpip and 12% PFR. Any tips or advice appreciated.

I tried to move up to .50/1 for a minute, but I got creamed.



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12-26-2010 , 07:44 PM
Here's the positions stats:

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12-26-2010 , 07:47 PM
You're not raising nearly enough, you're cold-calling WAY too much, and you're folding the BB enough to a steal where I probably think about raising any two off the BTN against you. You also only seem marginally positionally aware -- there is not a huge discrepancy in your VPIP/PFR across all positions.
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12-26-2010 , 08:00 PM
Thanks for taking time to look over the charts and respond. I'll try to improve in those areas. I have been trying blinds defense with a wider range, but it seems like every time I try I run into a monster. Makes me a bit gunshy I guess, but I will start pulling the trigger again.

I am running bad and it is killing my confidence. I can't hit the board and I can't buy a fold. I'm about half way through Winning In Tough Hold 'em Games and I'm trying to apply some of what I have learned each day. My aggression numbers are slowly creeping up, but I've got a long way to go.
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12-27-2010 , 12:58 PM
Hello All,

I'd like to post but I am having a tough time getting my details and graphs to show. Where can I go for instructions?
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12-27-2010 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jfelix73
Hello All,

I'd like to post but I am having a tough time getting my details and graphs to show. Where can I go for instructions?
For the graph there is a small box on the right side under the refresh button that says "expand graph" (theres a little box under it with an arrow pointing left or right). When expanded you'll have the option to "export" the png file. Then you upload that to your photobucket account and you can link it here.

For the position stats I had to use the snipping tool in Windows to get a screenshot capture then follow the photobucket steps above. (I'd never heard of it til someone mentioned it in this thread, if you can't find it then just left click your start/windows button then enter "snipping tool" in the search bar)

Hope that helps.
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12-27-2010 , 04:53 PM
I forgot the "is it plugged in?" question. You do have pokertracker 3 right?
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12-29-2010 , 03:32 PM
LOL, yes I do and thanks for the advice. I was trying to use Painter but I'll try photo bucket.
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12-29-2010 , 03:48 PM
Here they are:

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01-02-2011 , 10:21 PM
I know its been posted and mentioned but offhand does anyone know reasonable loss expectancy from the blinds for 6max?

Its something I need to work on (I think )

Right now for .25/.50 6max my BB/Hand is -.21 for BB and -.06 for SB over 35k hands
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01-02-2011 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mumwaldee
Trying to see less showdowns.
See more showdowns. Make those calls with pocket pairs and ace hi in appropriate spots. 35-37 is decent imo.
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01-02-2011 , 10:42 PM
Jfelix, iso 3! more often in position, It will increase your pfr and is a huge deal.
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01-02-2011 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadl3r
See more showdowns. Make those calls with pocket pairs and ace hi in appropriate spots. 35-37 is decent imo.
I think his WTSD is more than fine, and I would defantley try to shy away from 37% when at lower stakes. I think that 33-35 is more optimal below 1/2, at least from my sample. (200k hands) so yea, i just think you are overstating a bit ow important it is.
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01-02-2011 , 10:52 PM
At .5/1 anyways 37 has been decent, I'm catching a lot of river bluffs especially when the turn is checked. You know more about stats than I do schupick

I was saying iso 3! ing is super important, not going to showdown.
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01-03-2011 , 10:55 AM


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Quick pitstop to see if I'm just running bad or have some major leaks in my game after 13k hands. Most of them (11.5k) are from .1/.2 and the rest are 15bb forays into below. All hands are FR. Already spotted and trying to change one or two, I know I've been cold-calling too much in the SB and not stealing enough on the button. Any further help would be much appreciated. Starting off 2011 with a -4.22BB/100 loss is not good
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