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Anyways, tomorrow I have a date with a 21 year old 5'4" slender white chick. Wish me luck, because man I'm gonna need it. This girl is way out of my league.

sounds like this scam

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...ng-guy-457771/

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12-27-2009 , 09:03 PM

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sounds like this scam

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...ng-guy-457771/

Ha! This is always a possibility as my strategy is highly exploitable. Wouldn't doubt if this has happened to me a few times. The way I see it is all the money I've spent on first dates is some reparations for all the suffering I've caused the female race. I may be an a**hole, but at least a lot of girls got to eat some pretty nice meals.

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12-27-2009 , 09:14 PM

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Since I have no objective way of evaluating my looks I simply base my assessment on the empirical evidence. Given that the kind of girls that usually like me are fat and ugly and the fact that my batting average on first dates is around 10%, I feel comfortable assuming my looks are a hinderance to getting what I want.

When you say "I'm happy to have dinner with a random woman from the internet" you're going to attract fat, ugly women; quality women see your ad and have no interest because they think they're better than you (and who can blame them, since that's the impression your ad gives). I'm confident that the girls you're attracting are a result of your message, not your looks.

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Right, that's kind of the point though. Skills don't mean anything if the girl isn't willing to write you back because you failed the looks/money test.

I can't remember exactly what you look like. But I remember thinking that you looked really normal. Looking normal isn't going to cause you to fail any woman's looks test.

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Ha! One thing I can promise you is, I am more acutely aware of just how competitive the market is than anyone you'll ever meet. My whole online dating strategy of taking advantage of the very few inefficient parts of the market that still exist, takes for granted that the market is extremely competitive.

I'd say the biggest inefficiency is in online dating is women overvaluing a good profile/opener. Other inefficiencies certainly exist, but this is the most exploitable, and I don't think it's close.

By the way, I really like your idea of no pic + thin body type.

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When you take it to that extreme, I think what you're saying is trivially true.

I'm not sure what you mean by extreme. I'm talking a very attractive guy with a great job + basic profile/normal hobbies + "hi, how are you, you're cute, we should chat" opener. I think he gets destroyed by mediocre guy with expert profile + expert opener. Women don't look to exploit inefficiencies the same way you and I do.

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Adding a smiley face does always help.

You may have a point here, I just fear that I can't execute that line without it coming off bad. Maybe if I were hotter I could.

Again, women have a different hotness metric than us. To them hotness has more to do with what you say and how you say it than it does with looks. I agree that executing this live would be somewhat challenging, but it's really easy online.

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But again I like my system too much to change.

This is a little disappointing.

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Anyways, tomorrow I have a date with a 21 year old 5'4" slender white chick. Wish me luck, because man I'm gonna need it. This girl is way out of my league.

Good luck. And I mean it. Because I know you'll post a TR if things go well.

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12-27-2009 , 09:32 PM

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the female race.

nice touch

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12-27-2009 , 10:41 PM

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You guys are too much. I love reading the stuff you post. It's so awesome.

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12-27-2009 , 10:46 PM

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When you say "I'm happy to have dinner with a random woman from the internet" you're going to attract fat, ugly women; quality women see your ad and have no interest because they think they're better than you (and who can blame them, since that's the impression your ad gives). I'm confident that the girls you're attracting are a result of your message, not your looks.

Well that's not exactly how I do it. On Craigslist I usually say something like, "I love going out to eat and meeting new people, so if you're in decent shape email me and we'll set something up." On match.com it's a little more elaborate. Through years of trial and error, I believed I've evolved a pretty good profile to attract mates. I could be wrong though. And the girls I'm attracting ain't that bad. I mean they're mostly 6's but they're pretty much all skinny 6's. The girl I'm dating tomorrow is a skinny 9, but that's mostly an aberration. 9/10 girls I date are skinny with the occasional chubby liar mixed in. Oh and just to clarify, by "girls I'm attracting", I mean girls I'm writing first who write back. It's the girls that write me first that are usually fat and ugly. And I think this is a good way to assess one's own attractiveness. If hot people are usually writing you first that's a good indication that you're hot. If fuglies are writing you first you're probably fugly.

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I can't remember exactly what you look like. But I remember thinking that you looked really normal. Looking normal isn't going to cause you to fail any woman's looks test.

I think it will. As we've noted, it's a very competitive market out there. Any skinny girl with a decent self image probably understands she can get any guy she wants. With lots of hot guys around, there's simply no reason for her to settle for average. What I basically look for online is the holy grail of all women: The lonely, desperate, low self-esteem skinny girl. This phenotype is not easy to find.

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I'd say the biggest inefficiency is in online dating is women overvaluing a good profile/opener. Other inefficiencies certainly exist, but this is the most exploitable, and I don't think it's close.

I agree that the profile is very important. If you'd like to examine my match profile here's the main part of it:

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I would consider myself very laid back, easy to talk to and non-judgmental. I always try to look for a reason to smile and laugh. I like teasing and making fun of people in a playful manner and I like when the same is done to me. I think one of the keys to happiness is having people in your life you love and admire who also love and admire you. I'm hoping I can find someone on here who falls into that all-important category.

Some of the things I like to do for fun are watching movies, going out to eat, reading books, searching for funny videos online, laying around and cuddling, and I still like to play old school Nintendo and Super Nintendo

I also enjoy playing games like scrabble and chess.

Besides having as much fun as possible, my main ambition in life is to retire as young as possible so I can be free to learn and travel as much as I want. I plan to reach this goal through saving and investing. So far I am happy with the progress I have made.

As far as my perfect match...I don't have one. I'm not really after perfection. Just leads to unnecessary misery. If you like doing some of the things I like doing and you're in decent shape then give me a wink and let's see what happens.

If you see anything wrong with that let me know. I haven't changed it in about 3 years and I'm sure there's probably some flaws.

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By the way, I really like your idea of no pic + thin body type.

Interesting to note, 3 out of the last 4 girlfriends I had were the "no pic+thin" variety. I also like thin girls that take bad fuzzy pictures. It looks like a trap and sometimes it is, but as long as they're skinny I will like them.

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I disagree. I think in this case the very attractive guy will dominate. Sure that opening line is banal, but attractive people can get away with banal. I would take that horse over a charismatic mediocre guy any day. Unfortunately we'll never know though who's right here. The only interesting anecdote I have on this is Derek's bother, who I think is good looking. He was one of the worst writers I had ever seen. You would think he didn't even graduate high school, yet it was very easy for him to quickly acquire some hot ass. This doesn't prove my case or refute yours. We have nothing to work with here except funny intuition and anecdotes.

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I think you have a point. There's just such a thin line between coming off as confident and coming off as cocky. I usually try to go the neutral route because I know I can't walk that tight rope.

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This is a little disappointing.

Well keep in mind, it's not like you've made a strong case. In fact I don't think a strong case is even possible in principle. There's just too many possible causal factors at play which leaves us both in weak evidential positions guessing at what works. There's a reason why every single book written on this topic is pure pseudoscientific bullsh*t designed to fleece guys of their money. My approach gets me approx two skinny dates per week on average when I try. In my mind that means it's working so I don't want to change. I have my hypotheses on why my batting average is so low on first dates and you have yours. Neither are verifiable, so I'm left taking the aesthetic route which means going with what I'm most comfortable with. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate hearing your suggestions. The very fact that my position is inherently weak is one of the reasons why I love hearing what others think on this stuff.

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Good luck. And I mean it. Because I know you'll post a TR if things go well.

Yeah I try to make it where I only do TRs when I bang the chick because I don't want to clutter up this forum too much (I know too late huh). I've broken this rule in the past but I'll try to stick to it in the future. Nothing's more frustrating than writing about a girl I think I got locked up and then having her slip away. That's what happened when I wrote about the 50 year old I really liked.

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12-27-2009 , 11:08 PM

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Did you bang the 50 year old?

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12-27-2009 , 11:18 PM

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Did you bang the 50 year old?

Nope. Went on 3 dates, got to french kiss her and hold her on the 3rd date and then never saw her again. She later claimed her ex wanted her back and she decided to try to reconcile things with him. She was one of the hottest 50 year olds I've ever seen. I felt like a tool writing about her on here thinking I had it in the bag.

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12-27-2009 , 11:21 PM

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Don't feel like a tool. You're the man.

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12-27-2009 , 11:35 PM

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I'm headed out now, I'll comment on the rest later.

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We could easily find out who's right here. It would take a little effort and we'd have to set up some fake profiles. But we might learn a lot. And in the spirit of 2p2 we would throw a few bucks on it.

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The only interesting anecdote I have on this is Derek's bother, who I think is good looking. He was one of the worst writers I had ever seen. You would think he didn't even graduate high school, yet it was very easy for him to quickly acquire some hot ass. This doesn't prove my case or refute yours. We have nothing to work with here except funny intuition and anecdotes.

I'm very interested in this and may conduct some tests. I've heard a theory (it might have even been a study) that people tend to have sexual partners whose IQ similar to theirs. It's possible that he crushes the low IQ demograhic with poorly written messages. That's a large demographic that a well written message will miss.

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12-28-2009 , 12:06 AM

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I'm headed out now, I'll comment on the rest later.

We could easily find out who's right here. It would take a little effort and we'd have to set up some fake profiles. But we might learn a lot. And in the spirit of 2p2 we would throw a few bucks on it.

I'm very interested in this and may conduct some tests. I've heard a theory (it might have even been a study) that people tend to have sexual partners whose IQ similar to theirs. It's possible that he crushes the low IQ demograhic with poorly written messages. That's a large demographic that a well written message will miss.

no DVN, if hot guys messaged girls random gibberish, they would still get more ass than you

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12-28-2009 , 01:08 AM

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no DVN, if hot guys messaged girls random gibberish, they would still get more ass than you

exhibit A

this is a set of emails between my brother and some random girl online. my brother is a college graduate, and a pretty intelligent guy.

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these are the panther's girl set

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Date Sent: December 3
Subject: hi there

You seem like a hand full and i like that. Pathers suck balls though. Wings all the way again.

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from girl to brother:'

Subject: RE: hi there

lol I wouldn't same I'm a handful, but I'm lots of fun!!

Although the Panthers may blow, you do not **** talk my team, you hear??? You stinkin' wings fan!!!!

Erica

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Date Sent: December 4
Subject: I read your profile

And I would like to know what You are all about. Seems we have some things in common. I ve play haockey my whole life and still enjoy it. I'm not that much of a social person though. I go to bars and such, just to layed back. Maybe you could change that. I enjoy being around "happy " people. Makes life more enjoyable. I moved here last year for work and been enjoying it since. Maybe you could get me a tatoo or point me in the right direction. You play hockey or you just a fan.

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later that day, brother to girl again (there was a deal for 2 tickets in FLA for hockey tix)

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Date Sent: December 4
Subject: hey

Is this a way so you can get free beer and hockey game anytime you want for a low price of 34.99 talk to me

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so it's been a few days, no response (probably cause he's creepy)

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december 6th:

subject: Hey what the hell erica

You blowing me off or something. We should hang out some time. We can drink some beer, listen to some clash, and you can berp in my face, it will be a swell time.

brother, by the way

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sigh, poor brother, 2 days later, still nothing

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December 8:

Subject: What s up erica

U blowing me off again Come on im a really fun person to be around i promise, Im coming off as the creepy guy nice

brother

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creepy nice guy, lolzer, 2-3 aint bad

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the girl responds with an email saying something like "ive been out of town for 5 days, and haven't logged on"
I don't have this one. I wish I could see her face reading it though. The thing to remember, she read this psycho
babble, AND STILL EMAILED HIM BACK. **** her.

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December 8:

subject: none

This whole email chatting isnt really my thing. Just didnt want you to think I was a nut ball, thats it. So, you dont like country music. Me either until I was stuck in a boat shed for 3 months forced to listen to it over and over. Its scary but it started to grow on me. So besides going to hockey games what do you like to do? What is ny hardcore?

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December 8:

subject: none

I was just reading that email and it really did come across angry, didnt really mean it in that way.

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so two more emails in one day

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dec 10: This email **** is stupid, if you want, I would like to go hang out sometime . Let me know.

brother

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dec 10:

what the hell is wrong with me, I would love to go hang out with you some time. It would be great, promise. bring your pepper spray just in case.

brother

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from girl:

dec 10:

I like going to bars, watching movies, hanging around with friends, etc.

NY Hardcore is a certain style of hardcore that originated in NY.
I might have to bring my gun.

E

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brother then throws in the ever funny quib "bring your pepper spray" lmao

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dec 10th, from girl

Ok, I'll think about it. Fingers are crossed you aren't crazy. No time for that.

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dec 10:

Erica
Give me a call so I can talk freely. So you can see that I am not crazy. Would love to take you out.
brother xxx-281-xxxx

dec 10:
erika
please do think about ,not to long though, going to hockey tonight talk to later. name some bands that you are into at the moment. Im hooked on radiohead again.

brother, sweet

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brother gives her the #, and emails twice more in a row
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like 7 hours later, no response, another email on the 10th

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dec 10:

now your scaring me
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in reference to brother being creepy i guess, that one was from brother to the girl

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dec 13:

Hit the buttons 2,8,1,x,x,x,x

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The End, obviously

cliff notes: my brother emailing this girl named Erica

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12-28-2009 , 01:12 AM

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What the ****? I could comprehend about 20% of that.

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12-28-2009 , 01:17 AM

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What the ****? I could comprehend about 20% of that.

brother cold emails random

she responds

brother gets creepy

girl stops responding

brother gets stalker

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12-28-2009 , 01:22 AM

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Oh, I thought that they eventually went out somewhere.

Did she give him number or did he give her his number?

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12-28-2009 , 01:28 AM

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Oh, I thought that they eventually went out somewhere.

Did she give him number or did he give her his number?

my brother gave her HIS number.

she didn't respond, so he sent an email

"hit the numbers xxx-xxx-xxxx

instead of x, it was his phone number

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12-28-2009 , 02:54 AM

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no DVN, if hot guys messaged girls random gibberish, they would still get more ass than you

This is just like 99% of your posts. It's useless.

This is the internet. No one has any interest in anyone else's opinion unless they can offer a good explanation for it. This is why I like ILP. He offers his thoughts on subjects rather than his opinions. You just state something and it's supposed to be gospel. Whether you're right or wrong is beside the point.

Sorry there weren't enough noobs posting misplayed hands today. I know you have a flame quota to fill.

BTW, I didn't mean to put your brother down. The last thing I'd judge someone on is writing skills.

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12-28-2009 , 04:17 AM

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It looks like I misunderstood your approach. I thought you were really digging deep, looking for the lowest quality females available, then getting down on your looks when only fat, ugly women got in touch with you.

I guess one other thing to consider is the quality of your pics. I've noticed one woman can be anywhere from a 4 to 8 based on the pic she puts up. It baffles me that women put terrible pics of themselves on these sites. Of course, this is another inefficiency to exploit. If you don't have good pics of yourself, get some. And if you have some pics where you don't look your best, get rid of them.

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My main point was that the female's utility function with respect to looks is one of diminishing returns. Of course this is pure speculation and I have no evidence back it up.

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If you see anything wrong with that let me know. I haven't changed it in about 3 years and I'm sure there's probably some flaws.

I'm far from an authority on the subject, but I like it a lot. I'm probably going to steal a couple lines. I'd get rid of the "searching for funny videos on the internet" and the "nintendo" stuff, although both are noble pursuits.

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I think you have a point. There's just such a thin line between coming off as confident and coming off as cocky. I usually try to go the neutral route because I know I can't walk that tight rope.

Just throw in a little humor and you'll be able to get away with a little cockiness. Your profile also protects against an overly cocky image.

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In fact I don't think a strong case is even possible in principle. There's just too many possible causal factors at play which leaves us both in weak evidential positions guessing at what works.

Absolutely. This is why I'd much prefer discussing ideas in general to specific situations.

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The very fact that my position is inherently weak is one of the reasons why I love hearing what others think on this stuff.

I'd have a hard time believing anyone who had a strong opinion either way on the subject. I also realize that we're targeting different demographics, which makes discussion of specific situations even more pointless.

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lol @ thinking it's possible to clutter this thread

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12-28-2009 , 06:04 AM

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i'm basing this on my own personal experience, along with the experience of wes

my brother had girls emailing him from the day he signed up, and he can't spell, and his profile basically said "yo, what's up"

it didn't matter, he's pretty, he gets emails.

I put tons of thought into my profile as well as my intro email, and I don't.

I have no doubt if I used my brothers pictures and combined it with my ability to bs, i could get as many dates as I wanted.

here is another example of my brothers awesome online game

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12-28-2009 , 11:59 AM

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"there old" is a classic. You said he is a college graduate? This makes me wonder...=\

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12-28-2009 , 02:27 PM

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This idea may be testable, but I just don't think it's worth the effort.

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I'm very interested in this and may conduct some tests. I've heard a theory (it might have even been a study) that people tend to have sexual partners whose IQ similar to theirs.

Since women are generally the choosers when it comes to sex, and people tend to be around those that are similar to them, I can see a possibility of a correlation here. If the correlation exists, I would also expect it to be stronger for sexual partners that have been together a long time vs those that just met. I.E. a married couple vs a couple that just starting f**king a week ago.

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It's possible that he crushes the low IQ demograhic with poorly written messages. That's a large demographic that a well written message will miss.

I don't think a well written message will miss any demographic, but a poorly written message can hurt. Since I never clean out my PM box, I have another message sequence that Derek sent me that I don't think he's posted in the thread yet. This is one where Derek's brother sends the same girl six messages in a row with no response over the period of about a week. This alone shows this guy has no clue how online dating works which is already bad, but his last couple message in the sequence really makes me cringe:

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The fact that Derek's brother picked up a hot girl very quickly on Match combined with the fact that the hot dbags I know seem to be always banging hot chicks, along with this cognitive bias that plays tricks on us all, I would conclude that being hot is a huge advantage. Within limits, I think a hot guy with a weaker profile and a weaker email game will outperform a mediocre guy.

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12-28-2009 , 02:55 PM

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i'm certainly no amazing looking guy and when i'm in shape I'm probably about a 6

but i've pulled a lot of pretty decent tail off match over the years and it's mostly cuz i am funny

now, these aren't 9s or 10s or anything like that (I'm not sure I want those anyway -- people that have worshipped the ground they walk on for their entire lives tend to turn them into giant pain in the asses who are bad in the sack anyway) but there are solid 7s and 8s in the mix

i'm short and out of shape, i have to be funny else i'm ****ed.. err, not ****ed

and it works pretty well too

online dating is easy. just be not ugly, at least marginally funny, at least marginally confident, and don't be a creepy mother****er

btw derek's brother tilts me to no end

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12-28-2009 , 03:40 PM

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It looks like I misunderstood your approach. I thought you were really digging deep, looking for the lowest quality females available, then getting down on your looks when only fat, ugly women got in touch with you.

My life would be a lot easier If I could do that, but nature makes me more picky than I deserve to be. If I could change my nature to make it where I would love banging fugly chicks, I would in a second. This is similar to the bisexual pill I talked about before. Give me the fugly chick pill or the bisexual pill and I'd swallow it instantly. (I don't mean to frame that as a choice, obv I would take both)

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I guess one other thing to consider is the quality of your pics. I've noticed one woman can be anywhere from a 4 to 8 based on the pic she puts up. It baffles me that women put terrible pics of themselves on these sites. Of course, this is another inefficiency to exploit. If you don't have good pics of yourself, get some. And if you have some pics where you don't look your best, get rid of them.

I agree with everything here. For us, having good pics is critical. When it comes to women I actually get excited when I see a skinny chick with bad pics because now I know I have a chance. A stock market analogue would be Peter Lynch's strategy (he was one of the greatest money managers of all time):

"Lynch loved boring businesses with boring company names. Peter Lynch writes about both in One Up on Wall Street. No self-respecting Wall Street broker could recommend absurdly named unknown companies to his key clients. And that left the greatest money managers an opportunity to scoop up a truly solid business at a deep discount."

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My main point was that the female's utility function with respect to looks is one of diminishing returns. Of course this is pure speculation and I have no evidence back it up.

Well I think that's true for men and women. My point is given that females are generally the choosers and that it's very easy to screen profiles combined with the fact that good looking girls get a lot more emails than guys, there's little incentive for these girls to settle for average in any metric. So when it comes to getting good looking girls online, a guy who has average looks, height, and income is at a decided disadvantage.

An average guy probably has a better chance with a hot girl irl if he can get her in an isolated scenario and woo her with his charm. When a typical pretty girl is getting 20-100 emails, the average guy usually won't even get a chance to woo her. She may not even read his email, but instead only look at his picture because she simply doesn't have the time.

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I'm far from an authority on the subject, but I like it a lot. I'm probably going to steal a couple lines.

You can take whatever you want from there. I don't mind at all.

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I'd get rid of the "searching for funny videos on the internet" and the "nintendo" stuff, although both are noble pursuits.

I just think it would be so awesome to find a girl who would enjoy watching youtube videos with me. I don't play nintendo that often any more so I suppose that could go. I just remember this one time when I was playing one of the Super Marios with a girl, and when it was my turn to play she pulled down my boxers and started giving me head. I even came while I was still playing. Playing nintendo and getting head at the same time was such a great experience. I'm trying to recapture that.

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Just throw in a little humor and you'll be able to get away with a little cockiness.

I agree with that. Humor is probably the most important weapon in the arsenal when one doesn't have other built in advantages.

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Your profile also protects against an overly cocky image.

Yep, and that's definitely done intentionally.

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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrin

Absolutely. This is why I'd much prefer discussing ideas in general to specific situations.

Yeah I know what you mean. Specific situations are good for amusement, but not very good for compelling arguments.

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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrin

I'd have a hard time believing anyone who had a strong opinion either way on the subject.

For those who have strong opinions on this stuff, I would suggest writing a book, supporting all your arguments with bullsh*t anecdotes, have a catchy title, and you'll get rich in no time.

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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrin

I also realize that we're targeting different demographics, which makes discussion of specific situations even more pointless.

Well I try to target your demographic just not with much success. No one wants to be with old flabby 28 year olds who care about what kind of house and car you have.

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12-28-2009 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ColeW123

Don't feel like a tool. You're the man.

T-minus 4 hours and 4 minutes til I find out if I really am the man (date with skinny 21 year old is at 7pm). Actually I probably won't find out tonight, but if I get a 2nd date then the odds are heavily in my favor. Given the harsh reality that there's a good chance I may never get tight 21 year old vag again, I'm actually feeling a little performance anxiety right now. It's a good feeling though. It makes me feel more alive if that makes any sense. This is why my favorite part of the online dating process is the hours leading up to the first date.