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5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG 5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG

11-21-2022 , 03:52 AM
5/10 UB 4 Handed

Villan is 27.49/21.68/1.89 over 4k hands, mediocre at best, gets spazzy on
random spots and definetly spews when losing money (playing too passive at times when he should be getting value and being over aggressive when he's
most likely behind, etc).

Game is playing kind of tight and I've been stealing quite a bit and was caught a couple hands ago by Villan so he might suspect me as tilting or getting out of line stealing, villan is down 2-300 in the game.

I raise KcKs in the CO, button fold, villan calls in SB, BB fold.

Flop 833r

Villan donks, I raise, villan calls

Turn Td (two diamonds on board now)

Villan donks, I raise, villan 3 bets

From my history there is almost no chance I put villan on a 3 even if he's tilting hard (unless he has 33). However a bet-3 bet on the turn with the board/action is reasonably strong but the only realistic hand that beats me is 88 or TT and villan would have 3 bet TT preflop for sure and most likely 88 as well.

So would this be a easy cap on the turn or do you ever call here and evaluate on the river?

If cap turn, call river donk by SB safe river (ex: 2x, 833rTdd2x)?

SAUCE:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...d-vs-sb-90144/


OT: Thank you Leader, boc4life, & tryptaman

Last edited by maka2184; 11-21-2022 at 04:06 AM. Reason: Leader, boc4life, tryptaman #1 AINEC (●^o^●)
5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG Quote
11-21-2022 , 05:24 PM
Flat flop to raise turn. You want to protect your flop flatting range there.

As played, happily call down
5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG Quote
11-23-2022 , 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
Flat flop to raise turn. You want to protect your flop flatting range there.

As played, happily call down
+1

Thinking you'll destroy me if we ever play. Any merit to pump flop to prevent turn raise vs you or similar winning LAGTAG that delay raise safe turns?

Last edited by maka2184; 11-23-2022 at 08:35 AM. Reason: Ninefingershuffle #1 AINEC (●^o^●)
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11-30-2022 , 10:07 AM
I have 2 philosophies for where to end raising wars:

Vs maniacs I keep raising a 100% value range until I'm convinced by yet another raise, then I call down.

Vs everyone else I visualize the weakest value hands that make sense to them and their general approach to poker given the action. When his range no longer includes a decent portion of value hands that I beat, I stop raising before that portion disappears, then I call down.

Not having your reads and real time vibes, id call down the 3 bet and call river bet. I'd bet river if checked to and call a raise.
5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG Quote
12-02-2022 , 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob148
I have 2 philosophies for where to end raising wars:

Vs maniacs I keep raising a 100% value range until I'm convinced by yet another raise, then I call down.

Vs everyone else I visualize the weakest value hands that make sense to them and their general approach to poker given the action. When his range no longer includes a decent portion of value hands that I beat, I stop raising before that portion disappears, then I call down.

Not having your reads and real time vibes, id call down the 3 bet and call river bet. I'd bet river if checked to and call a raise.
+1

I'm still going with what boc4life & tryptamean reccomended in OP 2007 & capping turn sans nit TAG like ninefingershuffle . https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...d-vs-sb-90144/


Quote:
Originally Posted by Boc4life
I like to cap and then just call if he leads the river. Because of the paired 3's on the board you're way ahead of T8/Tx/8x. Also, there's no risk of getting 5-bet, and I think that should play into the decision as well, but the better players here may correct me on that.raise.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tryptamean
OP, I think you have good thought process about villian's possible hands. In this case, I don't mind a turn cap. This is a pretty good board for your hand. I think the hand you need to worry about most is A3s, but given the description I think stupidly played 8x or Tx (especially AT) are more likely.

It will suck if he totally owns you by c/r'ing the river, but that shouldn't happen very often.

Last edited by maka2184; 12-02-2022 at 01:45 AM. Reason: Boc4life Tryptamean #1 AINEC (●^o^●)
5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG Quote
12-02-2022 , 08:32 AM
Including Tx, 8x, and T8 in opponent value range is how they came to that conclusion, thus adhering to my 2nd philosophy of raising wars.
5/10 KcKs 4 Handec vs Spaz TAG Quote
12-03-2022 , 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob148
Including Tx, 8x, and T8 in opponent value range is how they came to that conclusion, thus adhering to my 2nd philosophy of raising wars.
+1 love ❤️ raising wars especially vs Ninefingershuffle, Sheseasy, and LAGTAG pros playing blind ftw

Last edited by maka2184; 12-03-2022 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Raising Wars #1 AINEC
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