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Old 02-24-2017, 12:54 PM   #26
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Hi rodeo! Long time no type, life treatin' y'all okay?



I agree BTW that LHE>NL. And IMHO PLO is the most fun game I've ever played. I'll never forget you teaching me badugi (sp) and those other weird games though.



To the OP: +1 to everyone saying play the game you find the most fun.


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Old 02-24-2017, 07:02 PM   #27
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LHE is alive and well in the Southlands
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:01 AM   #28
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ive always thought that if youre smart enough to beat poker for like 50, 60k a year, youre smart enough to make more than that and have a better life at a normal job. I couldnt imagine trying to be a poker pro today.
But maybe you're passionate about poker and you'd rather make your living doing something you love. I mean, it's obviously not for most people - and maybe not even for some of the ones that do it successfully - but it fits me like a glove. I've been playing full time hours for over five years now and I rarely get burned out and even when that does happen, I'm usually ready to get right back in the thick of things after a couple days off. I truly LOVE my job.

I think it's possible to make a living playing solely LHE in certain areas of Washington, California and Colorado - and probably in Vegas too... and those are just the areas I've experienced myself.
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Old 03-02-2017, 08:46 PM   #29
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LHE is alive and well in the Southlands
this caused me to laugh irl =D
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Old 03-02-2017, 11:38 PM   #30
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We're all dying. Poker's dying. Everything that is living is dying. That guy that was badly burnt in Austin Powers is dying.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:49 PM   #31
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The game has been dying for years, say the doom and gloomers. Then I sit in and see "winners" flat MP opens and raise J86 flops with AK.
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:53 PM   #32
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The game has been dying for years, say the doom and gloomers. Then I sit in and see "winners" flat MP opens and raise J86 flops with AK.
Yeah, but they really are dying. The game has some time left, and one nice thing is the online is not really breeding new limit crushers, but the age of the players in my limit games is disconcerting.

Fifteen years ago, I was always the youngest player in the game. Today, I'm usually the youngest in the game.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:54 PM   #33
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The game has been dying for years, say the doom and gloomers. Then I sit in and see "winners" flat MP opens and raise J86 flops with AK.
this line can be ok in some circumstances.

pro opens utg, fish in bb. you can flat AsKs np. Flop Js8c6d it's completely reasonable to balance your flop raising range by including AKss. so yea, maybe you saw me do this in the commerce 40/80 and I'm your fish LOL. If you're not also flatting with Aces in that spot sometimes then it's pretty poor
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:07 PM   #34
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this line can be ok in some circumstances.

pro opens utg, fish in bb. you can flat AsKs np. Flop Js8c6d it's completely reasonable to balance your flop raising range by including AKss. so yea, maybe you saw me do this in the commerce 40/80 and I'm your fish LOL. If you're not also flatting with Aces in that spot sometimes then it's pretty poor
Nah, but funny I nailed your board . Assuming one has really done homework, it's one thing. But most of the people I see who do it just don't raise AK pre because "drawing hand"

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Old 03-03-2017, 07:43 PM   #35
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yea agree it's usually from awful players =P
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:46 PM   #36
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In a 20/40 game, maniac raises UTG, nine handed, I have AhQh UTG+1, lots of loose callers, one newb who's calling anything suited, anything connected behind on the CO, I flat call. I think this is okay. 3-betting sucks all the value out of the hand.
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Old 03-05-2017, 05:51 PM   #37
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In a 20/40 game, maniac raises UTG, nine handed, I have AhQh UTG+1, lots of loose callers, one newb who's calling anything suited, anything connected behind on the CO, I flat call. I think this is okay. 3-betting sucks all the value out of the hand.
Yes, it's worth pursuing.
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:48 PM   #38
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Yes, it's worth pursuing.
Lol'd, now that I remember, it was actually 40/80. Plenty of money in the banana stand.
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:57 AM   #39
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In a 20/40 game, maniac raises UTG, nine handed, I have AhQh UTG+1, lots of loose callers, one newb who's calling anything suited, anything connected behind on the CO, I flat call. I think this is okay. 3-betting sucks all the value out of the hand.
You probably don't need convincing to listen to this guy, but yeah, what he says.

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Old 03-06-2017, 12:25 PM   #40
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You probably don't need convincing to listen to this guy, but yeah, what he says.
Yes, and I do occasionally flat with AA, or a mid pp, action is too underdeveloped to see if a small pp is worth two bets, though tempting because the game was pretty juicy. Also flatting KQs. 3-betting JJ,QQ,KK 100%, flatting AKs,AA,TT-77.

Total maniac actually had AA that hand, I flopped second pair of queens, and simply called down, which was the best line, imo. One cold caller behind, the before mentioned uber-loose. Blinds folded, KQXr, bet, I call, fold. Then it ragged out, and I called down.

AA runs better multiway than people think. There's only a real drop off when you go from a 2-way pot, into a 3-way pot. Against 5 or more players, it still gets tons of value.
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:32 AM   #41
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In a 20/40 game, maniac raises UTG, nine handed, I have AhQh UTG+1, lots of loose callers, one newb who's calling anything suited, anything connected behind on the CO, I flat call. I think this is okay. 3-betting sucks all the value out of the hand.
Against a maniac, I'd 3-bet. Against a tight player where you're slightly behind their range, then I'd call and let it develop multiway with loose players.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:41 PM   #42
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Considering half the table in a 20/40 LHE game are fish, I would say yes. As opposed to a 2/5 NL game where you are lucky to get 1-2 bad players. NL players are actually trying to win money, most limit players are trying to give it away. Unless you live in Boston or Scottsdale, where the games are just horrendous; I would say limit is worth pursuing.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:50 AM   #43
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Unless you live in Boston or Scottsdale, where the games are just horrendous; I would say limit is worth pursuing.
Lol, I thought they are/were some of the softest games in the world, can't imagine what good games are like then (there are some very tough players for that limit though, it's much different than other 20 games as the best players are to good for the limit but the action players you don't see to often in other games).

+ you are starting st like $15/hour compare ls to comic becusse of take
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Considering half the table in a 20/40 LHE game are fish, I would say yes. As opposed to a 2/5 NL game where you are lucky to get 1-2 bad players. NL players are actually trying to win money, most limit players are trying to give it away. Unless you live in Boston or Scottsdale, where the games are just horrendous; I would say limit is worth pursuing.
Scottsdale eh? Is that a Talking Stick reference? My wife and I are giving serious thought to moving to Arizona in 2022 and I'm definitely a LHE player.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:28 AM   #45
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Scottsdale eh? Is that a Talking Stick reference? My wife and I are giving serious thought to moving to Arizona in 2022 and I'm definitely a LHE player.
Same. My wife and I are actually on the same time table for a move to Phoenix area.

What's the rake like at CAZ?
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:03 AM   #46
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All the big money in San Jose CA is at the limit tables..20-40, 40-80 and 80-160
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All the big money in San Jose CA is at the limit tables..20-40, 40-80 and 80-160
There's a 10/25 NL at M8trix on WF.
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Old 03-18-2017, 03:51 PM   #48
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So two days a week there's a bigger NL game at one table? OK, the other 5 days limit is king. Even those two, better get a seat.
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:36 PM   #49
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Same. My wife and I are actually on the same time table for a move to Phoenix area.

What's the rake like at CAZ?
20-40+ its amazing ($7 time even at 250-500), 8-16 not so much (5+2 or something)
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So two days a week there's a bigger NL game at one table? OK, the other 5 days limit is king. Even those two, better get a seat.
"Limit is king" true
"All the money is at the limit tables" false

The SF Bay Area is one of the few places where playing LHE may make sense financially, for sure.

The NL ain't too bad, either.
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