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Old 05-11-2017, 08:14 PM   #1
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Ignition $0.25/$0.50 6 max

First orbit, no clue in the world who I'm playing against.
Open Ac9s in CO, BB 3 bets

Flop Qc 8s 7s

I call

Turn 6s

I call obv

River 6c

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Old 05-11-2017, 08:41 PM   #2
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What's the worst hand you get to the river with this way?
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Old 05-11-2017, 08:58 PM   #3
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What's the worst hand you get to the river with this way?
I suppose JT with a spade? Other worse hands would be...a few king highs w/ spade and As5x-As-2x
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:33 PM   #4
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Re: Ignition $0.25/$0.50 6 max

I was going to start a new thread with this question but since it's about Ignition I'll just ask it in yours:

How is the LHE traffic on Ignition nowadays? I logged on for the first time in over a year, and that seating system for cash games was like a kick in the gut - I'm in the camp that hates it.

I also tried to get an LHE game going and there was very little traffic at .25/.50 and below - I'm not a big fan of shorthanded play.
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:15 PM   #5
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How is the LHE traffic on Ignition nowadays?
Seems to be about the same as before between 25/50 cent and 1/2. Its absolutely more frustrating to have to blindly poke around at the 6 max and 9 max options for each specific limit (without being able to see where the concentration of players are sitting) Definitely gives robots a nice 'edge' since they can just endlessly search for games on auto-pilot.
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:38 PM   #6
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I suppose JT with a spade? Other worse hands would be...a few king highs w/ spade and As5x-As-2x
What's the best hand you get to the river this way?
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Old 05-13-2017, 12:09 PM   #7
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What's the best hand you get to the river this way?
Aaron and i obviously ask these because, well, it's hard to say what you should do readless. I'd be erring towards calling too much in these spots because I want to see what I'm dealing with here. Moreover, you still beat Broadway hands that some people would do this with, and you don't block them at all.
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:05 PM   #8
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Re: Ignition $0.25/$0.50 6 max

I think this boils down to what you think an unknown 3 bets from the button. Equilab has a range for that. 77+,A9s+,ATo+. Hero had 17%, 29%, and 1% equity on each post flop street vs. that range.

I don't care much for that range, so once you assume one you can see. If you think he's got the equilab charts open, easy fold on the river. Could be a close fold on the flop if you assume he's 2 barreling a lot.
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:30 PM   #9
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Re: Ignition $0.25/$0.50 6 max

OP says he got 3b from the BB, not the BTN.

BB 3b range tends to be very strong. I usually insta-call flop, but folding might be close given typical BB-3b-ranges.

River is easy fold.
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:48 PM   #10
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Re: Ignition $0.25/$0.50 6 max

Sorry, I mis-typed. The range I put up was equilab's canned range for a BB 3 bet vs. CO open. I was trying to find some range for it. I don't really love theirs, but have no basis to create a default Ignition range for BB 3 bets, as I don't have an account there.

Yeah, the flop was interesting. If you take the range I found (or stronger) we are getting 7:1 to beat that range with maybe 17%, but to do it with 2 cards by the river. It seems strange to call a 3 bet and then snap fold the flop in LHE, but equity-wise, that could be correct. We're getting nowhere the right price to take off one card. If the villain has a super strong range and is super showdown bound, folding could be correct.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:22 AM   #11
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OP says he got 3b from the BB, not the BTN.

BB 3b range tends to be very strong. I usually insta-call flop, but folding might be close given typical BB-3b-ranges.

River is easy fold.
with all due respect folding the flop would be insanely bad...

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