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Originally Posted by phunkphish
People limp all sorts of garbage that they would overlimp with.
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Originally Posted by Bob148
I agree with Cali. Correct spots to limp first in are so infrequent that you could probably raise all the hands that you could limp with profitably to the effect that any change in your winrate would be negligible.
I'll reorganize the quotes and leave out the feelings stuff, but I think Bob's post answers this...
If one of us were to sit in a 3/6 game (say waiting for a buddy to punt a stack off at a Golden Nugget MTT), we're probably not open limping a lot. We're raising a lot. Why? It is more fun. It isn't less profitable. Good things happen.
I'm sure there are games where open limping some hands is the most correct way to play them. I disagree with the idea that this stuff isn't habit forming.
People learn an instinctive way to play cards because playing live is boring. These habits can be expensive to break. For me, it was limping small PP in early position. It took online poker to break me of this habit.
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In fact, in that type of game, there are NO hands Id raise up front with..I"m limping Aces, if a raise means it folds around to the blinds.
Assuming this isn't sarcasm, this is the perfect example of why you don't adjust your game based on experience. If people are folding to you too much, raise much more. Raising nothing in EP is clearly wrong, as most of the hands you'd play in EP are highly profitable. It makes me think that you don't raise enough or this is the best game in the world, as you can just steal the blinds rake-free.
You profit in two ways in small stakes games
- You fold clearly losing hands.
- The pots you win are bigger, because you raise when you have the best of it and they don't.
Giving up half your profit is bad.
Short term luck make some wrong things seem like good poker. "Hey, I'll adapt by limping everything." I think there's one spot where it would be OK. If you were in EP and you had a true maniac behind you (he's not looking and raising every hand), you could argue that you'd limp 100% of your playing hands and then have a liberal LRR strategy. You'd get a bunch of free information from the field and still be able to charge them the max.