I'll describe the most recent encounter here, but I seem to run into similar situations a couple times a year. 2 guys either drunk or just in a gambling mood running up huge preflop pots every hand.
10 handed game $5/10. V1 is in seat 1, hero seat 4, V2 seat 6
Preflop
V1 will 3-bet 100% of the time, and 4-bet (cap) 50% of the time
V2 will cap 100% of the time
As for the remaining players, seats 8, 9 and 10 seemed to loosen up so they could get some action. The others I assume stuck to their scripts, since they were more or less non factors throughout the game
Postflop
V1 played very aggressively which I assume is the correct way to protect the bloated pot. V2 on the other hand folded a shocking amount of the time. Likely playing fit or fold with no concept of odds. I figured him for an easy target early on, but unfortunately taking him on meant dealing with V1 as well and I feel like I might have missed some opportunities playing too cautiously.
What is the correct adjustment against such a table?
Then if I flop a decent hand I'm gonna fastplay it.
Then I will not fold decent hands if I make it to the river.
I'd take it a step further and say I'm auto-showing down any pair that I arrive to the river with against these clowns assuming it's not 2+ bets to me.
Would it be correct to abandon suited connectors and small pairs preflop, but loosen up on big cards instead? Something like any suited Broadway, ATo/kjo+ regardless of position?
Would it be correct to abandon suited connectors and small pairs preflop, but loosen up on big cards instead? Something like any suited Broadway, ATo/kjo+ regardless of position?
That, if I saw that the rest of the players were unwilling to play anything but premiums, is what I'd do. We do need reasonable position on the rest of the field, though. Look left, for sure, dump those hands you mention if any of others are in also and haven't raised themselves bec they likely have a similar hand to ours (def fold to their raise), that sort of thing.
If I'm reading this as 2 players at the table playing any two cards and one of them will only cap half the time with the other not looking and putting all the chips in, there are two seriously below average hand ranges in every pot. Then, 3 other people have loosened up to play with them? Here are some thoughts.
Put people on ranges. Think about how your various hands do vs those ranges.
You can start with hot/cold equities, but also think about how likely you are to see rivers with some hands. It could be the pot is so bloated preflop that all your draws are priced in, but that could also mean your backdoor draws get priced in.
The biggest mistake you can make in this game is to invest heavily preflop, flop plenty of equity to draw (or be ahead enough to call), and then fold that equity. You have to be properly showdown bound.
Some players in the game fail at this (they're tight when they shouldn't be) and you don't have to call them down light when they start betting. Be aware of your customers.
This game can be expensive to play in the short run. If your roll isn't adequate, you may have to pass.
Tight tags tend to lose their minds in these games. They know the bad guys are playing too many hands, but they don't adjust correctly. They aren't showing down enough in the right spots. They tend not to have big swings (think about tighter players posting low SDs), and you're just going to have large swings. Again, folding middle pair vs. two maniacs having paid 8 bets to see the turn could be a huge mistake.
There are spots in these games where two villains are whipsawing you that you just have to know your hand's showdown equity vs. <random>, realize that the price is right, and put a bunch of chips in.
Late night/early morning action packed game with 6+ players to most flops for 2+ bets:
Wanna be tag limps, tight passive limps, I limp 87, loose passive limps on the button, semi lag raises small blind, maniac 3 bets big blind, everyone calls
25T
Small blind checks, maniac bets, all call.
8
Checks to me, I bet, button calls, small blind folds, maniac calls, rest fold
This game is nuts. Big blind likes to cap anything he's playing, and has showndown some really bad preflop holdings. Many pots are going off 8 ways for 4 bets because of him and the original preflop raiser in this hand, who likes to open raise with almost anything. He's drinking heavily, but is playing surprisingly straightforward posflop. He's to my immediate right and I've been 3 betting him a lot but have been unable to do anything but call down with bluffcatchers, with the exception of one hand where many limped, he raised, I 3 bet QJs and bet down a J44Jx runout.
MP(described above) opens, I 3 bet AT, folds to big blind who caps, we call.
