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07-13-2017 , 04:21 PM
I was a bit of a functional misfit at college (not like, no friends type misfit, just that my course of study and skills made me stand out like a sore thumb). I wanted to be an actuary before being an actuary was cool.

Amount of days in life spent employed in an actuarial role: 0.

Graduation year: 2008.

Go me.
07-13-2017 , 04:25 PM
How many of the tests did you take?
07-13-2017 , 05:28 PM
There are basically three ways to make sure your kids college will be taken care of (1) baseball (2) bitcoins (3) work harder. Since my son is half asian I'm hedging with 2 and 3.
07-13-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Now, I can almost predict what the arguments are. "We're totally fine with college, but collegeS are bastions of liberalism." And that's true - college is disproportionately liberal, probably because young people are liberal. And while that's not ideal, what's the alternative, putting your kids at an economic disadvantage for the rest of their lives because you don't approve of friends they haven't even met yet?
This is a pretty easy fix. I'll pay for my son to go to NOtre DAme but I wont pay for him to attend Berkley.
07-13-2017 , 05:52 PM
I think earning a bachelor's degree is still extremely important and that it should be done ASAP. Your major and school aren't a big deal, but a college degree first and foremost proves that you are capable of sticking to a challenging long-term goal for at least 4 years without being totally babied like most of us were in high school.

Take me, for example. I was already taking college level classes in 10th grade and entered college as a sophomore with 31 hours of As based on advanced placement tests. Today at 38 years old, I have 100ish hours of mostly high As in college but no degree. Am I better educated than most people with bachelor's degrees? Yes. Should you hire me over someone with a degree if other factors are even remotely close? Hell no. I am the type of person who dives really deep into whatever interests him for 2-4 months at a time before losing interest and moving on to the next shiny object. As my "resume" suggests, I am not reliable and will have no problem quitting on a whim to do something else that I find more interesting.

Not having a college degree has become a hassle for me more times than I can count. I firmly believe that we as a society should acknowledge and accept that there are plenty of highly motivated, educated, successful people who do not have college degrees. But this is just not the reality of the situation.

Eharmony considers college degree status to be the most important factor in their matching algorithm. Every insecure idiot who does have a college degree will automatically consider themselves smarter than you if you do not have one even if they majored in sociology with a 2.6 GPA and only went to class half the time. More generally, college degree status is probably the biggest factor in determining where an American stands in the current social hierarchy after age 25.

Furthermore, age 18-25 is by far the most convenient time to earn a college degree. It only gets harder and harder to find the time to finish college as we get older.

I would only advise someone to skip college if they have an absurdly lucrative alternative such as playing a major sport professionally. And even then, I would encourage them to take correspondence classes and try to graduate by age 35. I definitely would not encourage someone to delay college for an 80k/year programming job. If you're about money, you should be shooting for well over 100k/year in the long run. If you're not about money but are passionate about a specific field such as teaching, then a college degree is going to be near mandatory anyway.

That being said, I do encourage everyone to major in what interests them. If someone is torn between majoring in computer science for the money or philosophy for the love, I would encourage them to choose the latter. They can always go to a coding bootcamp after graduation if they change their mind. Coding bootcamp + random degree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coding bootcamp + high school diploma.

Cliffs: Not having a college degree will likely be a pain in the ass for the rest of your life no matter how successful you become even if the current system is a bit broken imo.
07-13-2017 , 06:03 PM
Great post unguarded
07-13-2017 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
How many of the tests did you take?
Two. Great ROI clearly.
07-13-2017 , 06:33 PM
So you passed the first two and just didn't wanna apply/accept any offers?
07-13-2017 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
That's what I assumed. What industry are you working in now, and how many people that you went to school with are utilizing their degrees as functioning members of corporate America?
Tech.

Not sure. I don't really keep in contact with the people I went to college 2.0 with. I just wanted to get in and out. For sure the go-getters that I piggy backed off of in class are actually using their business degrees to be corporate slaves, but the rest? Dunno.
07-13-2017 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
There are basically three ways to make sure your kids college will be taken care of (1) baseball (2) bitcoins (3) work harder. Since my son is half asian I'm hedging with 2 and 3.
I'm assuming you're the white part of your half Asian son. If we were doing strictly numbers, it'd be 1 part work harder .5 part bitcoins, not 2/3 of the options.

I'm also assuming your wife/baby mama isn't Japanese, because Ichiro.

Last edited by wbatas; 07-13-2017 at 06:39 PM. Reason: math.
07-13-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
So you passed the first two and just didn't wanna apply/accept any offers?
Worse. I passed two and got no offers lol. Looking back on it, it's not shocking; I was a dip**** entitled idiot and would've been better served doing a stint in the military.
07-13-2017 , 06:46 PM
this is not a sarcastic shocked face tbh!
07-13-2017 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding
this is not a sarcastic shocked face tbh!
2008 was a good time, for sure. I think my career would look entirely different today had I graduated in 2006 or 2010.
07-13-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
This is a pretty easy fix. I'll pay for my son to go to NOtre DAme but I wont pay for him to attend Berkley.
The same Notre Dame where a hundred grads walked out on Pence?

Here's a serious question: what if your son gets a free ride to Harvard?
07-13-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
There are basically three ways to make sure your kids college will be taken care of (1) baseball (2) bitcoins (3) work harder. Since my son is half asian I'm hedging with 2 and 3.
There's also (4) ROTC or Academy or GI Bill after he gets out of the Marines.
07-14-2017 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
There are basically three ways to make sure your kids college will be taken care of (1) baseball (2) bitcoins (3) work harder. Since my son is half asian I'm hedging with 2 and 3.
All I did was not be a total **** up and not be a total idiot and got top 5% in high school which gives you full ride to in state university as long as you maintain 3.0.

I did that, and my roommate partied nonstop his first semester and instantly lost his scholarship.

It isn't difficult if you don't suck at life. But if you need some prestigious pretentious small school, then your plan is better.
07-14-2017 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
All I did was not be a total **** up and not be a total idiot and got top 5% in high school which gives you full ride to in state university as long as you maintain 3.0.

I did that, and my roommate partied nonstop his first semester and instantly lost his scholarship.

It isn't difficult if you don't suck at life. But if you need some prestigious pretentious small school, then your plan is better.
Are you serious ?
Man, i bet today he must regret it...Or lost a $h!t load of money getting it lol...
07-14-2017 , 01:11 AM
Nah, he stayed in school. Think his parents picked up the tab. Ended up graduating a year after me.
07-14-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
if you need some prestigious pretentious small school
Not just the prestigious schools are expensive. Large, state-funded schools will be expensive too.
07-14-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Are you serious ?
Man, i bet today he must regret it...Or lost a $h!t load of money getting it lol...
You've never heard of ASU? It's Party U USA. Almost everyone there gets caught up in it.

As far as JL's kid, I don't know how ASU is these days but sadly the University of Arizona has become a liberal cesspool. The administration is trying to turn it into another Berzerkeley. Maybe NAU is the answer, depending on what he wants to study.
07-14-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You've never heard of ASU? It's Party U USA. Almost everyone there gets caught up in it.
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Well unfortunately no.
I don't even know all the university gossip in Canada, even less in the states .
Sounds fun tho!

Ps: i have no kids but, i think if I was a parent I would of been really piss if my kid would lose a scholarship for partying !
Well anyway , it still turns out well , that is the important thing .
07-14-2017 , 02:53 PM
Education is more than what's taught in school!
07-14-2017 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
The same Notre Dame where a hundred grads walked out on Pence?

Here's a serious question: what if your son gets a free ride to Harvard?
I hope that I'll be making enough money that he doesn't. Pretty sure they don't offer merit based or athletic scholarships.

That being said, if he were to get accepted I will pay for it (unless its like 600k a year by that time)
07-14-2017 , 06:21 PM
What do you plan to do in the future to make more money?
07-14-2017 , 06:58 PM
I graduated with a degree from the University of Washington and it's one of the most worthless things I've ever done in my life. I'd snap trade my degree in to be free of the student loan debt I accumulated.

I think one of the major issues is having college be the next step for kids that have no clue what they want to do with their lives. I was okay at writing and I enjoyed doing that so that's what I majored in and, well, I have no interest in writing for a living.

      
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