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Old 02-08-2008, 05:22 PM   #16
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

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there is an AHK HUD framework floating around u know ...

it is not too hard to parse the HH and auto-fill in the boxes / click "Calculate" in the original app - just depends how much CPU the calculations take if this is feasible. Although this would seem to cross the line in to "Realtime EV calculators" - a direction I'm not sure is either desirable at large or permitted in use...
Good point. I didn't really think it through. I'll just use it as a study tool unless the sites make it clear that Realtime EV calculators are acceptable. Do we have official responses from any sites yet? I know there's the thread where people are trying to get a response from PokerStars, but what about Full Tilt?
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:09 AM   #17
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

Version 0.7 with support for 6 players uploaded today.

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/B...ctorCalculator

I haven't had the time to triple-check accuracy of calculations but I am 99% sure they should be fine barring some typo in the code.
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #18
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Version 0.7 with support for 6 players uploaded today.

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/B...ctorCalculator

I haven't had the time to triple-check accuracy of calculations but I am 99% sure they should be fine barring some typo in the code.
Thanks, Everlong. This is very useful.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:57 PM   #19
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

Everlong,

I just downloaded v.0.7. It's not working for me. The window opens fine and looks like your screenshot/like it did last time but with 6 slots, but when I enter 5 stack sizes and hit Calculate, nothing happens.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:59 PM   #20
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

Ok, did some more testing, and it works for 6 players, but not 5 or 4.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:14 AM   #21
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ERROR STACK 6 VS STACK 2

Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:15 AM   #22
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

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Everlong,

I just downloaded v.0.7. It's not working for me. The window opens fine and looks like your screenshot/like it did last time but with 6 slots, but when I enter 5 stack sizes and hit Calculate, nothing happens.
You must enter 0 for stack 6 if you only want to use 5 players.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:27 AM   #23
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You must enter 0 for stack 6 if you only want to use 5 players.
Ty.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:32 AM   #24
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Re: ERROR STACK 6 VS STACK 2

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Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
Do you have a link to where I can find out how to do the math?
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:39 AM   #25
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Re: ERROR STACK 6 VS STACK 2

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Good job with the script, but there is a bug.

50/30/20 payout structure.
Stack1: 1400
Stack2: 2000
Stack3: 2600
Stack4: 3300
Stack5: 4300
Stack6: 6400

All bubble factors except Stack6/Stack2 are correct.
It gives 0.79 for Stack 2 against Stack 6. (Should be 1.35)
It gives 1.38 for Stack 6 against Stack 2. (Should be 1.15)
I found the problem. On line 846:

Stack2 := Stack2 + Stack6
should be changed to:
Stack2 := Stack2 + Stack2
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:43 AM   #26
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Re: ERROR STACK 6 VS STACK 2

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Do you have a link to where I can find out how to do the math?
Dont have a link, but you just compare EVwon compared to EVlost and see how much more valuable your chips are compared to those you can win.
Look in the BBFv0.7.ahk to see how the calculation is done.

Doing there calculations manually takes a lot of time though.. thats why this tool is so cool
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:26 AM   #27
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Re: ERROR STACK 6 VS STACK 2

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Dont have a link, but you just compare EVwon compared to EVlost and see how much more valuable your chips are compared to those you can win.
Look in the BBFv0.7.ahk to see how the calculation is done.

Doing there calculations manually takes a lot of time though.. thats why this tool is so cool
I was actually interested since you found a bug. I was hoping to be able to test it out on my own to make sure the numbers were right. I'd hate to study incorrect information.

I agree that this tool is very cool. Very very useful. I just would like to confirm that it's 100% accurate.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:50 AM   #28
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

Well so much for being 99% sure

I uploaded version 0.8 fixing the stack 2 vs stack 6 typo and adding 0 as a default stack size. I can't check accuracy of calcs right now so let me know if it seems right.

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/B...ctorCalculator

And a quick lowdown on how the numbers are calculated with some made-up numbers:

Your current EV = E (ex. 15)
Increase in EV if win allin against opponent = W (ex. +5 to 20)
Decrease in EV if lose allin against opponent = L (ex -15 to 0)

Bubble factor = L/W = 3

Because of the non-linear value of chips your Bubble Factor can never be less than 1.

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Old 02-18-2008, 02:55 AM   #29
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

Suggestion: Add a clear button to set all stacks back to 0. If that's hard, don't worry about it obv.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:57 AM   #30
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Re: New AHK script: Bubble Factor Calculator

If you care, the new version still says v.0.7 in the title bar.
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