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03-22-2013 , 04:24 PM
Hey guys,

We finally have a timing tell program available to the poker community. TimeMojo will display the timing of all opponents most recent action. You can also customize timing ranges based on color, to quickly see whether your opponent snap bet, or tanked. The HUD can be customized to be very small, so it shouldn't conflict with your current HUD setup. This is extremely useful for fish, as they only one table. Also the software is very helpful for defending against 3b/4b, and making tough decisions in large pots. Even with opponents who mass table, timing tell reads can be picked up with a little studying.

We are currently developing database capabilities, will keep everyone updated. Let me know if you download a trial, and you can PM me with any thoughts, issues, troubleshooting, etc. We would like to get as much feedback from the community as possible, so feel free to post your thoughts here as well.

Thanks,

Tennepenne



https://www.timemojo.com
03-22-2013 , 06:18 PM
This is something that have crossed my mind before. Not sure how useful it would be in practice, but i'm very curious to try it.

Nice job.
03-22-2013 , 06:22 PM
Is this just for PokerStars?
03-22-2013 , 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilips
This is something that have crossed my mind before. Not sure how useful it would be in practice, but i'm very curious to try it.

Nice job.
Thank you, please let me know how it goes. Good luck.
03-22-2013 , 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SretiCentV
Is this just for PokerStars?
Yes, this is only for Pokerstars right now. We will develop support for other clients as the need arises.
03-22-2013 , 07:52 PM
I found it very useful in fighting 3bets/4bets, as it seems lots of regs tend to hesitate when they are unsure of their action. It was always kind of funny when you caught a reg 3bet bluffing after they time down and they snap fold to a 4bet. You just know they are saying to themselves "I knew I shouldn't have done that!".

If you use the program to just watch your own timing when you are weak/strong, you will realize how often you give off timing reads yourself.
03-22-2013 , 11:27 PM
Copying this from my blog...

Hey Everyone!

I've had a lot of Mojo-testers who have asked me for a tutorial on setting custom time ranges. I made a few gifs to hopefully help you guys make your own custom TimeMojo setup. This is what I use while I am playing, so you may prefer different colors or timing blocks, but hopefully this will get you started. First of all, if you open the Time Mojo software client, you will see Mojo and About on the top. Click "Mojo", then "Settings".




Next, a box will pop up titled "Settings", and at the top you will see Time Range Appearance. If you drag your mouse across that pink block, you will see the seconds increase as you drag to the right. The left side is 0.00s, and the right is 30.00s.




Now, drag your mouse to the desired seconds, and RIGHT click, to bring up options. Here, you can Change Color, Split, or Reset to default. Try clicking split at around 3 seconds.

Below, you can see the different time intervals I use while playing poker. For some, this may be too precise, and others may prefer to have more detailed. This is a description on how I view time in online poker games.

  • Snap bet is < 3.00s (requires 0 thought, or was a premeditated decision. On a wet flop, a player would consider ways to play his hand if he had a massive draw, or a made monster)
  • Quick Bet is 3.00s - 4.50s (close to a snap bet, and still may be a snap if multitabling)
  • Hesitation Bet is 4.50s - 6.50s (Indication of a player second guessing himself, or considering different ways to play the hand)
  • Medium-Long bet is 6.50s - 8.50s (Opponent is considering different ways to play the hand, possible indication of strength on the flop, if the board is wet)
  • Long bet is 8.50s - 10.50s (This player isn't tanking, he is confused, calculating, or considering ways to play a hand. This could also be a premeditated tank, as someone who wants to intentionally tank will not do it for greater than 10 seconds or so.)
  • Tank bet is > 10.50s (preflop, this probably indicates a distracted player. Postflop, in a large pot, the player may be very confused)

We will elaborate on these concepts in much further detail in the near future. I just wanted to give you guys a base to start creating your own tells.




You should also play very careful attention to what your color selections are. In color theory, we were taught that colors have implied time. I decided to make a very simple to understand palette, the rainbow. Here, red is the most aggressive color, therefore the fastest. Purple is the least aggressive color, so I made it the slowest. Usually, players will indicate aggression with red in their HUD, and green with passiveness. You can apply the same concept to time, in whatever way suits best for your playing style.




Remember, if you do something funky, you can always reset your layout, and reset the time colors or split locations. Feel free to comment below on split ideas, color palette ideas, and how time affects your poker game.



Another note, using darker colors will make the time more visible. The colors I used here get a little lost with white text, so try dark blue, dark green, etc.

Good luck developing timing tells! And let me know how it goes. I am always available for troubleshooting and strategy discussion.

♥ Tennepenne
03-23-2013 , 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sakrei
It was always kind of funny when you caught a reg 3bet bluffing after they time down and they snap fold to a 4bet. You just know they are saying to themselves "I knew I shouldn't have done that!".
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Geez i know how that feels

And in before having to blance timing ranges...i wish soft like this never came up, now i just have to buy it.
03-23-2013 , 12:23 PM
Any plans to support Nova theme in the near future? Had to change from Slick theme to Nova, and wasted one day to mod it to my liking, because of TableNinja.

While playing i was expecting some kind of popup with the timing history of the players. Any plans to add something like that?

And what do you mean by "currently developing database capabilities"? Can you expand on that?
03-23-2013 , 01:11 PM
Hi Hilips,

We are planning on adding Nova and Black support this next week. I think once we fix those two, most of the new themes should be supported as well. I will keep everyone updated.

I'll elaborate on the database capabilities once we announce the release of our next major update.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilips
Any plans to support Nova theme in the near future? Had to change from Slick theme to Nova, and wasted one day to mod it to my liking, because of TableNinja.

While playing i was expecting some kind of popup with the timing history of the players. Any plans to add something like that?

And what do you mean by "currently developing database capabilities"? Can you expand on that?
03-23-2013 , 03:16 PM
Here is a fun timing hand. Villain quickly bet all 3 streets, which I usually find when someone predetermines they are going to do something on a later street, it is weakness.

BB ($200)
UTG ($93)
UTG+1 ($216.70)
MP1 ($203.70)
MP2 ($488.70)
MP3 ($340)
Hero (CO) ($204.35)
Button ($112.05)
SB ($101)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) J, 6, Q (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($35) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $26, Hero calls $26

River: ($87) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $72, Hero calls $72

Total pot: $231 | Rake: $3

Spoiler:

UTG+1 had A, K (one pair, sixes).
Hero had J, 10 (two pair, Jacks and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $228
03-25-2013 , 02:12 AM
Cool idea, perhaps you could let the user save the hud positions manually to solve theme compatibility issues.
03-27-2013 , 06:50 PM
with the help of timemojo i've become much more cognizant of the importance of timing tells and balance in today's competitive games. as a mass multitabler playing other mass mulitablers, timemojo should pay for itself with just one or two optimized decisions.
03-27-2013 , 10:07 PM
This is actually pretty cool. I just tried it earlier today for the first time. Mostly I found it useful v. short stackers and their more obvious timing tells. I'm sure I'll find it more useful as I use it more and think about the information I'm getting. Cool stuff.
03-28-2013 , 08:42 AM
I'm definitely looking forward to these database capabilities. Hopefully you write everything to the existing trackers' database (HEM, PT) so that other software apps may leverage this information
03-28-2013 , 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SretiCentV
I'm definitely looking forward to these database capabilities. Hopefully you write everything to the existing trackers' database (HEM, PT) so that other software apps may leverage this information
+1000
03-28-2013 , 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SretiCentV
I'm definitely looking forward to these database capabilities. Hopefully you write everything to the existing trackers' database (HEM, PT) so that other software apps may leverage this information
Could you elaborate more on what you mean? Or just let me know what kind of features you are looking for. Any input is greatly appreciated as we would like to shape the program to fit the users needs. Thanks!
03-28-2013 , 01:42 PM
You can add tables to the trackers' databases (they don't mind) and you can have a foreign key to the hand ID in the table where all hands are stored (hm2: handhistories, pt4: cash_hand_histories). Then a column with an array of times that, in order, correspond to their actions and that would be quite sufficient. Or you could really do it any way you want as long as there is some way to map someone's action durations to the correct hand.

There are a ton of legitimate uses for this data as I'm sure you're aware. You may find it beneficial to have other apps rely on your data as well as a way of raising awareness.
04-02-2013 , 12:22 AM
I thought would try this out but all my timing boxes all stay at 0.00s
What did i do wrong?

2 players times have changed one to 290.33s and the other to 604.54s

Last edited by CindyWolff; 04-02-2013 at 12:36 AM.
04-02-2013 , 12:53 AM
CindyWolff,

Can you confirm that you have the dealer chat set to 'Everything'?
04-02-2013 , 01:32 AM
Yes i do

I will be back on later today if you need me ive gota go out
04-04-2013 , 12:39 AM
Knowing the timing of actions makes me a tonne of dollars, especially in the bigger pots with close decisions.
04-04-2013 , 08:35 AM
Great idea. I'm looking forward to trying this.
04-04-2013 , 03:48 PM
ETA on Nova support? (the supported themes tilt the **** out me)
04-04-2013 , 09:55 PM
Sorry about the delay on the Nova support, we are hoping to have it ready by Sunday.
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