You can assign any hotkey you want to a mouse button (except we do not allow you to assign left click to a hotkey). Just left click the text-field next to Raise on the "Action hotkeys" tab and then hit the mouse button or combination of mouse buttons that you want and TableNinja will detect what mouse buttons you hit and assign them to that hotkey.

Let me know if you have any trouble.

Hmm that is very strange. I would try emailing the TNConfigAutoLoad file from your laptop to your desktop and putting it in your TableNinja install directory and seeing if that helps. If not email me at support@alxsoftware.com and I can help you out.


I knew what you meant We will add BB rounding.

On our "Buy Now" page it explains the pricing. Basically 25$ gets you the program and one year of free updates. You can keep using the program forever without ever paying again, but if you want to continue to receive updates, support, and new features you will have to pay an annual fee. We haven't determined how much it will be yet, but it will definitely be reasonable.

Maintaining the program, providing support, and adding new features is a huge job so we think this is a reasonable system.

Excellent idea. We could definitely do this, I like it a lot.

Sorry our email server got overloaded this weekend and my inbox exceeded it maximum size and it was sending out bounce emails. I fixed the problem and have received all the emails people sent. Sorry about that.

Thanks guys,

Tarath

Great program. Purchased my copy. How long until Beta is done?

Just wondering if there is a way to use Check or Check/Fold advance actions. Even if TN can't do it by itself, is there a script that I can use at the same time. I swear I had a set up on my last OS that allowed me to use more advance actions check boxes. (I play PLO is that makes any difference.)

Not sure why TN does not include this functionality. Loving TN otherwise.

Also, another suggested feature for the hyper-OCD among us: Could you implement an auto-top-up feature that rebuys to a set amount only when the next hand is the players button? I love Stars' auto-top-up, but I hate getting stacked on BB+1 (i.e. EP1) for example and having to rebuy full for my BB and SB play. I usually wait for my button to rebuy but then i have to do it manually.

Many thanks,
wm

Probably not too much longer. We will give everyone several weeks warning before we end the beta period though.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question, but on the "Action Hotkeys" tab there is an entire "Advanced Action" hotkeys section that allow you to interact with every advanced action checkbox. Its right in the middle.

Rebuying only when it is the players button is definitely possible, I've added it to my list. I try to prioritize what gets done from the list by how often it is requested so if other people want this feature they need to speak up

Thanks

Tarath

I only see AA boxes for Check/Fold and FTAB. I want Check and Check and Check/Call (for when I'm in the blinds, I guess) and Call and Call Any.

-wm

PS Do the ones under Limit Only work only on limit tables?

Please allow us to unactivate the "Pot Betting" which is auto-displayed with the focus, especially Preflop.

It causes this issue. I have the habit to directly click in the cursor zone to add one BigBlind. Sometime I do it on a table without focus. Here is what happens, it raises the amount to 3BB, here the TN change this amount with what I had specified (2BB + 0BB/L) and before I have remarked that, I have min raised...

I have setted 2BB + 0BB/L because I like to put my own raise Preflop.

Please, add the function to unactivate auto-display of bet amount, just caculate it when I click my hotkey.

If you set the preflop to %bet and set all the percentages to zero it will turn the Default bets off completely.

Hope this helps,

Tarath

I see, from your first post I thought you wanted AA check/fold.

Honestly, it had never occurred to me that an NL player would use the others. We could certainly remove the limit restriction to these hot-keys, they currently only work at limit tables.

Tarath

Well, maybe PLO would make use of those more. PLO actually plays a bit more like LHE than NLHE sometimes (more multiway action and more drawing to big hands).

I use them a lot when I am massively multitabling PLO. There are a lot of spots where I need to preselect Check, but not Check/Fold. I want a free card, but I'll pay for it if I have to. Preselecting Call Any and Check/Call are really helpful when shortstacking. I can just hit it, and move on usually not having to worry about playing another street. The ones that I need the most Call $X preflop and Check for later streets (i.e. the top middle checkbox).

-wm

After I posted that slide I started paying attention and noticed what you describe. Yes, I want bb multiple bets on all streets for the obvious reason.

You'd think that same checkbox would apply to all streets. Hmmph.

not read the thread.
but i'd like to have a feature where u can open to different amounts given ur position

--Four types of color coded frames around tables in the action queue

edit: ok, not what i think it is i thought it was going to be like FTP where around each player's name a quick color code identification would show whether they were first to act, limped, etc...IS this possible?

Do you have a picture of this in action? If it is what i think it is...sounds exciting.

also, is this working for MORE than 24+ tables now? I know there were issues before and that's why I haven't jumped...my computer can barely handle my current AHK setup, and wouldn't want it to be bogged down further.

Thanks

Great software

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. Thx!

This is a great idea and is something we are working on.

We have users who 40 table SNGs. I would try running TableNinja by itself initially (if you plan to continue running all your other scripts things may be slow), but the lag problem has been greatly reduced. If you run TableNinja with the frames disabled I can almost guarantee you wont have any lag with a decent computer.

Thanks

Glad to hear it, let me know if you have any trouble in the future,

Thanks,

Tarath

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I love how much TableNinja has improved since the "early days" when I did some of the pre-release beta testing. This was before when even the TableNinja website was announced to the 2p2 community. I've now recently dropped several AHK scripts (including a custom script I wrote myself) in favor of using TableNinja exclusively.

I've recently (in the last month or so) made the major change of playing 9-12 table in tile mode (I have three 20inch monitors) TO playing cascade/stacking mode. My main motivation in doing so is in order to play more tables (about high teens, maybe low 20's later) in a more efficient superior manner.

I've settled on a version of using TWO main stacks and I'm forced to use a simple custom AHK script to "move a table of interest" to SIX alternate tile areas. Although, most of the time there are only 3 to 4 tables temporarily in the alternate tile areas (where only tables of interest are located). Consider the extra 2 to 3 tile areas as overflow as needed.

Now, I know that you guys are already planning on having a hotkey option to "pop out" of the main stack/cascade a "table of interest" to a alternate stack(s) or tile area(s). And probably a hotkey option to "pop back" the "table of interest" to where the table originally came from. Which is usually the main stack/cascade for most people. In my setup, TableNinja would need to "remember" which main stack of the two it came from so to maintain the equal balance between the two main stacks.

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I would like TableNinja to automatically move "tables of interest" (TOI) out of the main stack(s) and automatically popback "tables of interest" (TOI) to the main stack(s).

The conditions to move the TOI out the main stack would be defined by as any hand where the user "sees" the flop and the pot size is greater than X big blinds where X is defined by the user in the Table Control tab.

A typical default value for X would be like 8 which would accomodate a standard preflop raise and it's headups. Some users might choose a higher value like 15 and a TOI becomes a bigger pot where there's heavy flop action or turn action.

And TableNinja will automatically "remember" to popback a TOI table when the hand is over to the originally location of the stack(s) where we MOSTLY CONCENTRATE ON PREFLOP FOLDS.

I think it will greatly improve cascade/stack playing with autocruise for TOI sorting. We can call this table control method "TOI automove". I think this feature will make TableNinja more powerful than ever.

so i finally got tired of my old hotkeys minor flaws and decided to give this thing a try, i'll be testing it with tables max + stacked sngs on stars.. I'm finding it very functional with 1 tourney at the moment. thanks for your hard work guys i'll let you know if i have any ideas.

i didn't know it was so cheap. so i already bought it. however, given that, do i just put requests in this thread?

i think it would be very beneficial to be able to see what the previous action was prior to your turn.

for example, much like your table borders, you could have something like...if you limped previous street, then show this...or if you were first to raise the previous street, then show this...

it would help a lot when you're getting lost in the action that previously happened.

Thanks

Wow this would be very cool and should actually be reasonably managable. It will deifnitely be possible for Vista users with an aero them, it might be trickier for non-aero users. Making the code fast enough not to cause lag may be tricky too so I can't promise that this won't take us a lot of time but its definitely a great idea thanks!

I definitely know what you mean about how crazy it is how far the program has come. I think the first version we sent you guys had only 3 tabs Thanks for your continued support.

Glad to hear it, I would definitely appreciate any feedback you might have as someone new to the program.

We'd love to add some kind of real time line tracking feature that said what everyone had done on previous streets. Its definitely something we want ot provide, but unless I think of a really clever way to do it, this is going to be a major undertaking so I would not expect it any time soon. No other software does anything even close to this difficult in terms of real time information gathering.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, great stuff.

Tarath

Just curious, why would this be a bigger problem on Windows XP versus the Vista with Aero? Because PokerStars is already popping up the active table to the foreground where all scrapping can be done. You need to scan for three parameters---presence of user's hole card (to indicate we have a hand), presence of 3+ community board cards (to indicate a postflop scenario) and the pot size/status.

I'm sure it's something that I'm not aware of since I just "fool around" with AHK scripts and don't understand the details of windows programming for something like TableNinja.

This is going to be so awesome when this feature is available. Will make playing cascade/stacking much more easier and enjoyable.

If we are moving the table on your turn rather than in advance there are some complications with windows being refreshed while being moved so integrating the movement into the scraping and setting the default bet without breaking anything might be a bit tricky. This can be particularly tricky in laggy situations. In an aero theme every window knows what it should be displaying all the time, in XP or non-aero vista if there is lag it might be difficult to scrape a window too soon after it has been moved.

Also for snapping the table back when the hand is over it would be smoother not to wait till your first action on the next hand (although we might be able to look for the hand history file being written to).

Tarath

could you just make a feature so that i could move a table in & out of the stack w/ a hotkey?

The table of interest feature is interesting & would be nice, but just a basic feature being able to move the top table in & out of the stack would be great.

i would like to see the "cycle to first in line table" feature work when there is no bet slider

tried this out today while 16 tabling today and other than a tiny bit of lag at times it worked great!

of course lag could have been on stars end or because i had holdem mgr running at the same time and my computer sucks.

I'd second the request for the stack management. It would really help my game in some situations. I'd prefer the auto-move back when the hand is over (or perhaps a timer of a second or so that can be triggered early by action occurring on that table).
Some sort of management could be useful, so if there are 4 alternate "areas" to move tables, one hotkey could move it to the first free area.

This kind of feature sounds like it would be complicated to configure, but perhaps it could have some default settings, and manually configred in a text editor.