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05-24-2014 , 09:40 AM
That's your interpretation of that rule, or do you specifically asked them about present bets?

Damn, this is really bad. I'm so used to not typing my bets. I'm sure i'm not the only one who bought this software just because of present bets.
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05-24-2014 , 10:01 AM
Preset bets are still allowed, what is not allowed is to use raise size and relative position filters for them e.g it's not allowed to 3b x4 when raise <= 2bb and x3 when raise = 3bb.

I specifically asked them about it and here is what I was told:

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Two types of filters that you reference - position relative to the raiser and raise size - cannot be permitted. This is because it is taking advanced real-time information into consideration, even if these conditions have been defined by your end-users. The other filters are permitted because they are either static throughout the entire hand (blind level, position, game type) or basic in nature (street, pot size).

The one exception to the above is that we have historically allowed pre-flop action facing the player (i.e. "add 1 bb for every limper"), due to the correlation between such actions and pot size and the fact we permit "bet 50% pot" scripts. However, preset bets or hotkey scripts that now include "bet x if raise size is y, else bet z" would be in breach of the dynamic, real-time component.

We ask that you remove these filters as soon as possible and your program will of course remain permitted.
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05-24-2014 , 10:08 AM
But i don't read in this why you should not be allowed to have f.e. 3bet x3 or raise flop x2.5. With % it's really unhandy.
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05-24-2014 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
Preset bets are still allowed, what is not allowed is to use raise size and relative position filters for them e.g it's not allowed to 3b x4 when raise <= 2bb and x3 when raise = 3bb.

I specifically asked them about it and here is what I was told:
Great! I just finished doing this now before coming here to asK my question .

Anyway my question was: how to save my settings in an other folder?
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05-24-2014 , 10:10 AM
czyngischan, thanks.

I could just update and see for myself, but i'll wait until i'm forced too.
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05-24-2014 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
But i don't read in this why you should not be allowed to have f.e. 3bet x3 or raise flop x2.5. With % it's really unhandy.
Yeah it s ridonkulous, there is soo many steps to clean the ecosystem, such as banned seating script, hud etc ... this seems to be the most useless one... my guess is they probably have verry good reasons or else it s just dumb.
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05-24-2014 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilips
czyngischan, thanks.

I could just update and see for myself, but i'll wait until i'm forced too.
My guess is you will not be forced to, since like most people in this thread, you probably purchased TO for playmoney only, riiight?
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05-24-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
But i don't read in this why you should not be allowed to have f.e. 3bet x3 or raise flop x2.5. With % it's really unhandy.
If raise size is "advanced real-time information" then using it in bet formula may not be allowed too. Not sure about this, I will discuss this with Pokerstars game integrity team.

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Originally Posted by frenchfish
Great! I just finished doing this now before coming here to asK my question .

Anyway my question was: how to save my settings in an other folder?
You can backup your settings by making a copy of options.ini file from TO main folder.
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05-24-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
If raise size is "advanced real-time information" then using it in bet formula may not be allowed too. Not sure about this, I will discuss this with Pokerstars game integrity team.


Hope you get a positive answer For my understanding there isn't that much difference between betting % and making it 2x or 3x....except that x is more handy.
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05-27-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Hope you get a positive answer For my understanding there isn't that much difference between betting % and making it 2x or 3x....except that x is more handy.
It turned out to be allowed.
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05-27-2014 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
It turned out to be allowed.
This are good news
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05-27-2014 , 05:09 PM
i cant imagine how PS can be so stupid to make an issue over these type of things, yet keep on allowing the scripts etc ..
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06-01-2014 , 11:17 AM
I haven't used TO in a week or 2 since it was updated. Just updated it to the latest version and it seems a bunch of the preset bets setting have changed.

For 3bets I used to be able to set a 3bet size vs various open raise sizings, for both in and out of position. Now it seems those options are gone.

I can't select either IP or OOP. Instead it lists all the seats at the table instead.

Can you change it back to the way it was or explain how I can reset up all my default bets?

For example, I want to set it so that:
Vs a 2bet to 2bb I 3bet to 7.5bb IP
Vs a 2bet to 2.5bb I 3bet to 8.5bb IP
Vs a 2bet to 3bb I 3bet to 9bb IP
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Vs a 2bet to 2bb I 3bet to 8bb OOP
Vs a 2bet to 2.5bb I 3bet to 9bb OOP
Vs a 2bet to 3bb I 3bet to 9.5bb OOP
etc etc
Can you tell me how to reset that back up, just like the way it was beofre the update?

**Small spelling bug I just noticed too. In the option "Isolate" within preset bets it it spelled "limer" instead of "limper".
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06-01-2014 , 12:40 PM
Read the last couple of posts and you'll find out that you can't do that anymore.
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06-01-2014 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PC2809
I haven't used TO in a week or 2 since it was updated. Just updated it to the latest version and it seems a bunch of the preset bets setting have changed.

For 3bets I used to be able to set a 3bet size vs various open raise sizings, for both in and out of position. Now it seems those options are gone.

I can't select either IP or OOP. Instead it lists all the seats at the table instead.

Can you change it back to the way it was or explain how I can reset up all my default bets?

For example, I want to set it so that:
Vs a 2bet to 2bb I 3bet to 7.5bb IP
Vs a 2bet to 2.5bb I 3bet to 8.5bb IP
Vs a 2bet to 3bb I 3bet to 9bb IP
-
Vs a 2bet to 2bb I 3bet to 8bb OOP
Vs a 2bet to 2.5bb I 3bet to 9bb OOP
Vs a 2bet to 3bb I 3bet to 9.5bb OOP
etc etc
Can you tell me how to reset that back up, just like the way it was beofre the update?

**Small spelling bug I just noticed too. In the option "Isolate" within preset bets it it spelled "limer" instead of "limper".
These features had to be removed due to new Pokerstars prohibited software policy.
The best you can do now is to set it like this:
3b 150% pot + 2.333 bb, pos = *
3b 150% pot + 2.833 bb, pos = SB

Assuming there are no limpers and antes in the pot it should bet:
vs 2 bb, 2.5 bb, 3 bb
7.58 bb, 8.33 bb, 9.08 bb IP
8.08 bb, 8.83 bb, 9.58 bb OOP

The only problem is when you're on BB because you can be both IP and OOP to the raiser so in such case you need to change your bet manually.
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06-02-2014 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
These features had to be removed due to new Pokerstars prohibited software policy.
The best you can do now is to set it like this:
3b 150% pot + 2.333 bb, pos = *
3b 150% pot + 2.833 bb, pos = SB

Assuming there are no limpers and antes in the pot it should bet:
vs 2 bb, 2.5 bb, 3 bb
7.58 bb, 8.33 bb, 9.08 bb IP
8.08 bb, 8.83 bb, 9.58 bb OOP

The only problem is when you're on BB because you can be both IP and OOP to the raiser so in such case you need to change your bet manually.

Thank you for explaining that, much appreciated. Though I actually just tweaked my default 3bet sizings to be the same regardless of position. All 3bets are now:

2x initial bet + 3.5bb

So:
2 -> 7.5
2.5 -> 8.5
3 -> 9.5
etc

Nice and simple. Splitting hairs over the merits of an extra .5 or 1 bb depending on position is not worth it. I don't think it matters in the longrun.
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06-02-2014 , 01:00 PM
Just bought the license after the 30 day trial and now my antivirus is blocking TO.exe saying its a threat.

Anyone experiencing this?
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06-03-2014 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Prim
Just bought the license after the 30 day trial and now my antivirus is blocking TO.exe saying its a threat.

Anyone experiencing this?
After one of the latest updates AVG anti-virus started detecting to.exe as a threat. This is of course a false positive. To fix the problem you need to add TO folder to exception list in AVG following these instructions: http://kb.avg.com/articles/en_US/How...anning?l=en_US .
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06-05-2014 , 10:55 AM
hi im trying out the trial and 16 tabling with the auto stack move to slot feature so tables move to a slot when postflop.im using pokertracker 4 and the lag is hardcore,what can i do?how do you know when the trial is finished?
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06-09-2014 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
After one of the latest updates AVG anti-virus started detecting to.exe as a threat. This is of course a false positive. To fix the problem you need to add TO folder to exception list in AVG following these instructions: http://kb.avg.com/articles/en_US/How...anning?l=en_US .
Avast is doing this to right now ...
Also If I download the program again from the site the ZIP file won't work .. ?
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06-09-2014 , 12:48 PM
Try again, it should work now.
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06-09-2014 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by czyngischan
Try again, it should work now.

It does .. only about 15 min after my post it was already fixed, so thanks ! :-)
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06-11-2014 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfske
Avast is doing this to right now ...
Also If I download the program again from the site the ZIP file won't work .. ?
I have this same issue with AVG, so I switched to Avast and now the same thing is happening?
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06-11-2014 , 12:10 PM
Are you using latest TO version (1.0.4.2)? If not, please update or if update is not working because Avast deleted to.exe download latest version manually from the website.
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06-13-2014 , 11:56 AM
Will you be making a version compatible with PokerStars 7 Beta?
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