Just played a 24tabling session and used TOI. Everything worked fine. The table resizer is a good thing.

Just one question, when i folded a hand it moved the table back into the stack, but when i won a hand it stayed there until i folded the next hand. I maybe wrong on this but i thought it also moves the table back into the stack when the hand was won?

Another good thing is if you're in a hand, someone bets and you know you're going to fold and set the checkmark into the checkbox, it moves the table back into the stack immediately.

Very good tool imo, looking forward to the VP$IP function, this would calm down the action a lot, which is very helpful imo.

Holdem Manager HUD delayed a bit when TOI moved the tables, but the delay was <1 sec + i think this is a HM/PokerStars problem.

edit: are there any advantages if you have TOI as/with an installer?

if the SB goes all in and we can only call or fold, it was mentioned this is not an TOI then, but what happens? Does it stay in the stack where all non-TOIs are, but in front of the stack(or if its the 2nd table in the stack cause there are no free grids, then it stays as 2nd table and is handled if action on table 1 is solved) so i can call/fold or does it get lost in the stack?

and what does "Send to Active" do? should i enable it?

You have probably set the wrong Hand History Directory in TOI's Options. Set this to '..PokerStars\HandHistory' AND NOT '..PokerStars\HandHistory\Your Username', or it won't work.

it stays in the stack at the front, so you can click there, it wont get lost in the stack

Send to active:
Activate 'Send To Active' when you're not sending the folds to the tables the mouse cursor is pointing at, but to the active window instead. 'Send To Active' doesn't impact Fold Hot(mouse)Button behaviour, but only the fold (keyboard)key's behaviour.

Is there an option to tables going out of the stack when I'm dealt cards? So I can check the auto fold on them

yeah i guess thats it. i mixed it up somehow, i guess it was because my path is PokerStars\HandHistory\screenname\screenname and in TOI it was set to PokerStars\HandHistory
somehow i have a useless 2nd folder...

err is it a problem that HM fetches hands out of the handhistory folder, imports them and archives them somewhere else(what i mean is, do the handhistories have to be in the '..PokerStars\HandHistory\Your Username' folder after the import of HM ?)

I mass multitable DoNs, so when I saw this and read the website I was really excited.

However, I just happened to notice Jaroz007's comment itt.......

And your unambiguous reply....


Now, I would really love to get this, but until you get around to fixing this oversight TOI will be basically useless for multitabling DoNs (and probably other STTs too, but definitely DoNs).

At the time we get to the bubble the game should consist almost entirely of pre flop shoves (anyone not playing push fold is probably making mistakes).

So you pretty much won't see any tables after BB150 unless you've got a huge monster stack (which should only happen very rarely indeed if you're playing properly, monster stacks are usually a sign of bad play) or you are UTG (and because DoN bubbles are six handed, you'll miss most hands).

Fix this and DoN multitablers will be queueing up to buy

It would be nice If we could add some overlap, or just took out the table frame like chiren does.
On my 22 monitor the last tables on a 3x3 slot grid get a little out of the monitor.

Someone already mentioned this, but I couldn't find a response: is it possible or will it be possible to have only the tables where we do not fold preflop be move out of the stack?

It is so much easier to keep all the PF folding action in one place (namely, in the stack) and definitely reduces eye movement etc.

Also, as soon as there is confirmed PLO support I will insta-buy this app.

In general, anytime there is no further decision for the hero, the table should return to the stack.
Good work so far!

-wm

P.S. It might be helpful to have the "fold to any" button trigger movement back to the stack. This would help reduce clutter for those who use this a lot.

In a similar vein, a setting to send a table back to the stack once hero is all-in could also be helpful.

I can't seem to get use the F5 table redraw button to find my AppData folder.

I can navigate to the user.ini file fine in the windows environment, and I guess I could edit that option there somehow if I knew what and where to write the line of code in; but when I try to navigate to that folder using the browse for folder pop up, it isn't there.

Vista, 32, run as administrator is checked on the shortcut, I have UAC turned off on my machine

PLO is supported, it's been tested on it, and it works
Move to Grid once VP$IP option is on the to-do list, I think this is better than a move-to-grid once you are in the hand and see the flop option

Find the right folder by expanding the 'Help' menu in PokerStars, then click 'Open My Settings Folder'. If TOI's automated F5RedrawTable system doesn't work for that folder, you have to edit the user.ini file (located in that folder) yourself. Remember: It could be a hidden file. Make sure PokerStars is closed and add this line to the [Options] section: f5redrawtable=1

you should work on recognizing an AI before the flop because when some1 goes AI before the flop TOI leaves this table in the stack and you time out happily and never hear of that table again

Ive made a decision... Tommorow I will give image/pixelrecognition a second shot, so that all-ins (before first preflop action) are recognized. This way I can instantly add tournament support and Full Tilt support, tripling my market. Too many people are having problems with only 99.9% of TOI's being recognized.

It won't be too much work, don't get your hopes up though, you never know what problems I will run in to... Ill combine this with the existing bet slider search method, so that small recognition delay will only be on tables that werent recognized in the first place (not sure yet: it could slow down the entire program). Perhaps I was a bit stubburn on not wanting to add the pixel recognition method.

I havent done too much updating on the software since release, as Ive been answering a lot of questions and doing work on the site/adding an installer. Ill try to focus a bit more on updating the software tomorrow, so I might not answer your questions as quickly as I did previously. Tomorrow it's time to take this software to the next level!

I said it before, and Ill say it again: Never buy my software in anticipation of future additions/updates, I can not handle that kind of pressure and I dont want to feel guilty when I fail trying...

Other things on the list:
- Make TOI compatible with TableNinja's auto sit-in functionality (add time-out slider for new tables);
- Fix problem for waiting list pop-ups;
- Keep tables untouched when not sitting at the table;
- Option to only move tables to the TOI Grid when VP$IP at first action;
- Add WheelUp/WheelDown Fold HotKeys (I had some technical difficulties adding these prior to release);
- Solution for timed-out tables;
- Tournament & Sit 'n Go support (+keep in TOI Grid hotkey);
- Sit-back-in function for timed-out tables;
- Full Tilt Poker support.

I hate to bring it to you but failure isnt an option when it comes to this script im afraid-)
gl and bring this to ftp asap!

Only functionality I'm jonesing for is FullTilt & tournament support, the rest is just a nice to have for me.

FWIW, for those on the fence - I bought the software earlier today and instantly went from tiling 6-8 tables (including PLO) to StackTiling (you should trademark this term Thois ) 12-16 tables without a hitch. The speed / responsiveness is an uber-strong part of this product, I for one would not want any added functionality that would measurably slow response time.

Maybe it's because I'm not playing NL, but I'm not sure I understand the clamoring for "all-in action before you must become a TOI".
My question for this situation:
1) If you're only option is Call or Fold, does the table become a TOI?
2) If not, does the table at least pop to the top of Stack?

I do understand it would be nice to have #1 happen for more time to think, but #2 seems to be enough functionality for touneys, SNGs, and DONs.

Im glad to hear that NewGuy!

1) no
2) yes

Dont worry, ill make sure you can turn it off as an option...

ty neverbeclever

in my experience it slows everything down. ex: so you have 24 tables, 8 have bet slider, you still have to getpixel on 16 non active windows to check if theres an allin. pokerstars cpu usage went from 2% to 20%. but it did work.

Oh well, there is no other option than to add this, so people will be able to turn it on or off. They can decide for themselves...

€ tables dont work

my fold hotkey doesnt send the table back to the stack.

I am using "a" as fold and also using "stars Hotkeys" ahk.

i have the mouse set to "None" and fold hotkey set to "A"

any help is appreciated. for now i am able to fold with a and send the table back with one of my mouse buttons.

Can't wait for this to be FT operational, instant buy when that happends.

this fixed the problem at showdown however the fold hotkey still doesnt send the table back to teh stack, only the mouse.

any help? anyone else experience this?

clicking where the button is supposed to be works" fold hotkey doesnt, is the ahk script overwriting the program?

I haven't downloaded TOI yet but I'm curious if someone can answer this question:

-After you played your move and let's say it's an all in and you win. Does TOI allow PT3/HEM to show the mucked cards before sending the table back to the stack?

nope