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I tried it for 15 minutes and this seems pretty slick / useful. Is the $35 license good for more than 1 PC? (e.g., I play on a laptop and a desktop)

+1 to having an option not to enter stack until seated

Actually, a suggestion for perhaps a better feature along these lines:
- Option for a separate 2nd stack that contains JUST tables where you are not yet seated (so they don't clutter your working/playing stack)

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12-07-2009 , 03:38 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by Lyrrad

Re: Calling All-in situations
This occurs much more often in tournaments than cash games, so if this program to be useful in tourneys, implementing detection of this situation would be a good idea.

Possible solution: Look for presence of the Call/Raise/Fold buttons in addition to the bet slider. (Possibly talk to Tarath with TN to maintain compatibility with TN themes, or have detection be a configurable option). I assume TN is looking visually for the presence of buttons by their contrast with the background.

Also: 500 posts!

About the Calling All-in situations (taken from the help section of the site):
Tables Of Interest are recognized by searching for the PokerStars bet slider at the tables. Sometimes when you haven't acted yet, a player goes all-in before you and there is noone behind you so you can't reraise, there will be no betslider. In those situations you either have an option to call or fold. TOI will not recognize those tables as Tables Of Interest, so those tables will just stay in the Stack (you will have to make your decision there). These situations are so specific that they'll occur approximately once every 5000 hands. Keep in mind: If this happends when you've already taken your first action in the hand, it will get recognized as a Table Of Interest.

Im not sure if it will be a big problem for tournaments, all I can do is add support for them and you guys will have to see if it's good enough or not. I will never add image/pixel recognition features, I've tested those, I dont like how they slow down my software, I like to keep my software fast and effective.

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12-07-2009 , 03:41 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by NewGuy

I tried it for 15 minutes and this seems pretty slick / useful. Is the $35 license good for more than 1 PC? (e.g., I play on a laptop and a desktop)

Yes you can use your license on as many PCs as you want

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Actually, a suggestion for perhaps a better feature along these lines:
- Option for a separate 2nd stack that contains JUST tables where you are not yet seated (so they don't clutter your working/playing stack)

Im not sure if that will make things too complicated for less smart users, I want to keep things a little bit easy to understand. But thanks for your suggestion, I will have to give this problem a thought. Im sure Ill come up with a nice solution.

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12-07-2009 , 03:57 PM

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NewGuy

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Any plans for a FullTilt version? Insta-double of your market again IMO

Multiple PCs for 1 license = solid, sealed the deal for me

Agree with you that simple > overloaded with hyper-customization features. TOI gives me 80%-90% of the functionality I ever wanted from all the AHK scripts / add-ons out there with a slick / clean / simple interface & set-up.

Solid work, look forward to any tweaks & tourneys being added.

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12-07-2009 , 04:04 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by NewGuy

Any plans for a FullTilt version? Insta-double of your market again IMO

My top priority is to make my customers 100% satisfied, so first things first. After that, I can try to broaden my horizon.

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12-07-2009 , 04:11 PM

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sloove

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hmm, when I have TOI running it somehow stops new tables from opening, like I start a session and run TOI before opening a table Stars won't be able to open any table or if I have some tables running and join some waitlists the waitlist tables won''t popoup to join.

Is it meant to be this way? Would like to have it more dynamic and be able to still join and leave tables during a session

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12-07-2009 , 04:16 PM

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andersb

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Originally Posted by Thois

This is really weird, what Windows version are you using? TOI Only works for XP and newer.

I am using win7

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12-07-2009 , 04:23 PM

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TimberAAA

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Originally Posted by andersb

I am using win7

did you run TOI as admin?

also +1 to only move tables when VP$IP

dont know why it shouldnt move tables into the stack as you open them, they're in front and seating worked fine

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12-07-2009 , 04:34 PM

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loltysir

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Any chance I could just load up X amount of tables in the places I want to TOI's to go then make the program recognize this is where I want them, instead of manually entering the co-ordinates for each one?

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12-07-2009 , 04:35 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by sloove

You should be able to join and leave tables during a session while the engine is running...
Perhaps a dumb question. but did you enable 'Popup table whenever user action is required' in PokerStars (Options, Advanced Multi-Table Options)?

Im not really sure what your problem is...

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12-07-2009 , 04:40 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by loltysir

No, sorry this is not possible. Its a good idea though, perhaps it should have been that way, I might add that in the future, not sure.

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12-07-2009 , 04:44 PM

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Lyrrad

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Originally Posted by Thois

Im not sure if it will be a big problem for tournaments, all I can do is add support for them and you guys will have to see if it's good enough or not. I will never add image/pixel recognition features, I've tested those, I dont like how they slow down my software, I like to keep my software fast and effective.

In that case, how about an option to have hotkeys to set the table as a TOI until the next hand. For example, I could set it to my Call or Raise hotkeys from TN so that if I press Call (or Raise without a bet slider) to an all-in then the software will move it to a TOI slot so I can see the results. This would probably solve the issue enough without doing any image recognition.

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12-07-2009 , 05:05 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by Lyrrad

Yes this is the 'Only move to TOI when VP$IP' option, I have planned this feature for the future (it has pretty high priority as well)... Im not sure how it will solve the problem though, as most people dont want to click inside the stack.

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12-07-2009 , 05:24 PM

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pokurz

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how long till we see this for fulltilt?

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12-07-2009 , 05:34 PM

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Lyrrad

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Originally Posted by Thois

Well, I'd like to have the option to have the allin calls/raises move the table to the TOI in addition to the default behaviour, not just only moving to TOI when I VPIP. (to partially taking care of the all-in problem) Since I'm using TN hotkeys I'm fine with occasionally doing an action on a stacked table as long as it's moved to the stack if I VPIP.

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12-07-2009 , 05:37 PM

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jim_money

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Originally Posted by pokurz

how long till we see this for fulltilt?

+1

I would probably buy this if offered for FT, but I just don't play stars.

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12-07-2009 , 05:38 PM

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LittleDonny

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Why not have the table come out of the stack only if you dont fold preflop? Seems like it would be easier to fold most hands in the stack and play postflop outside of the stack.

Is this what the 'Only move to TOI when VP$IP' option does?

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12-07-2009 , 05:45 PM

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Jaroz007

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Originally Posted by Thois

About the Calling All-in situations (taken from the help section of the site):
Im not sure if it will be a big problem for tournaments, all I can do is add support for them and you guys will have to see if it's good enough or not. I will never add image/pixel recognition features, I've tested those, I dont like how they slow down my software, I like to keep my software fast and effective.

Isnt that happening in tournaments very often, when the BU or SB goes allin and we have to Call or Fold in the BB. I mean I am asking since I am really interested and considering buying your program.

But I would use it only for SNGs, and that is something that should work to consider buying the Software.

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12-07-2009 , 05:50 PM

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mythrilfox

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my main problem with it so far is the lag associated w/ HEM + tableninja + TOI. tables popping into and out of slots was extremely laggy with the HEM hud having to load up each time, though i guess that's a shortcoming of HEM and not TOI. once the 'Only move to TOI when VP$IP' option is implemented the lag should be cut down a little bit.

also had some trouble using tableninja's auto-sit down + auto-buyin function when opening a new table. sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't. i'm guessing it's because of the lag?

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12-07-2009 , 05:58 PM

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Thois

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Originally Posted by mythrilfox

I'm not sure, but how old is your pc... Perhaps it's too slow to combine all those applications. I didn't have any problems with my HUD, nor did the beta testers. Im not sure why TN's auto-sit/buy-in doesnt work, you're the first to have this problem. What I really want to know are your PC specs, as I didnt test TOI on slower systems (forgive me if I misjudged your PC).

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12-07-2009 , 06:02 PM

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sloove

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Originally Posted by Thois

nm, i ****ed something up

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12-07-2009 , 06:04 PM

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mythrilfox

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no it's a fair question ... it's about 2 years old, i keep it pretty clean... intel core 2 duo 2.13ghz, 3gigs ram.. i take pretty good care of it.

two things that might be making it pretty laggy: i was playing 20-22 tables, though i imagine your beta testers were as well. my database is also pretty massive so that could be having an adverse affect on it as well. fwiw i basically never have lag problems using my regular setup of HEM+tableninja

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12-07-2009 , 06:14 PM

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sloove

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Originally Posted by sloove

nm, i ****ed something up

changed my mind... actually there is something wrong when I have TOI running for a longer period of time... although automatic popup tables is clicked on I don't get the dialogue to sit at the tables i'm waiting for but for a flesh of a second the window pops up that tells me that I didn't respond in time for joining a table....

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12-07-2009 , 06:35 PM

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heehaw

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Ok, i've been messing around with it and i've come across a couple things. When the table gets moved to the TOI grid i click fold and it moves back to my Set Stack. When it does this the table that required action on the Set Stack is now covered up by the table i folded.

Sorry in advance, i'm not very good at this stuff yet. Where is the TOI program located on my comp??? when i closed it i had to open my recently downloaded to find it again....

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