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08-16-2010 , 10:02 PM
v 1.99.11

v 1.99.11
- fixed: bug from v1.99.10 where table would sometimes pop back into grid after fold+stack

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08-17-2010 , 03:14 AM
I could not use the ini files from previous versions. Strange things were happening.

This version seems fine. My only concern is the occasional rapid flickering of the stack.
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08-17-2010 , 04:12 AM
unfortunately with my 18 table configuration new tables do not resize at all or go into the new tables stack until I take a seat at that table. My 12 table configuration is fine. Also, when the seat available popup opens into the stack it sometimes cannot be found as the stack at that time might be continually recycling.
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08-17-2010 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by betweaver
unfortunately with my 18 table configuration new tables do not resize at all or go into the new tables stack until I take a seat at that table. My 12 table configuration is fine. Also, when the seat available popup opens into the stack it sometimes cannot be found as the stack at that time might be continually recycling.
sorry i've changed stars to use include_title "logged in as" which doesnt show until you take a seat. this can be changed back to what it was, where include_title is empty, so any stars table will immed go to new tables stack. obviously you could create your own custom ini for stars and have that setting blank

re: seat available popup, dont really follow what youre saying

Last edited by greg nice; 08-17-2010 at 04:32 PM.
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08-17-2010 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
re: seat available popup, dont really follow what youre saying
when on a Stars waiting list and a seat becomes available a pop up window displays giving the user the option of taking the seat/not taking the seat/removing oneself from all waiting lists. The table does not open until one of these questions is answered. Sometimes this dialogue box (?) opens over the Stack, and when i go to click one of its buttons a Stars table will come to the front of it. So that I end up losing my reserved seat at that table.
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08-17-2010 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by betweaver
when on a Stars waiting list and a seat becomes available a pop up window displays giving the user the option of taking the seat/not taking the seat/removing oneself from all waiting lists. The table does not open until one of these questions is answered. Sometimes this dialogue box (?) opens over the Stack, and when i go to click one of its buttons a Stars table will come to the front of it. So that I end up losing my reserved seat at that table.
hrm, is there any rhyme or reason as to where the popup box appears? does it just appear on the last active table or something? maybe thats why it appears in the stack..

in other news, is the fold+stack bug gone? do tables stay in stack and not pop back out?
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08-17-2010 , 07:03 PM
Is it possible to add few hotkey for expmle for bet 2.5BB, call , alllin

You program is really awesome because its multiplatform

Actually would be very nice to include only pre flop actions( for 2.5BB and other staff) and to add call button would be really great

Last edited by pitslz; 08-17-2010 at 07:20 PM.
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08-17-2010 , 07:37 PM
no plans to become a full featured hotkey program like TableNinja, however basic call/raise hotkeys might be possible down the line..
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08-18-2010 , 12:44 AM
Just tried the latest version. The stack is in a state of perpetual flashing between tables. That really doesn't bother me that much though.
I'm still having the same issue where a table gets caught in the stack sometimes that never pops up to the grid. I have it set on Preflop mode so tables are supposed to pop up whenever there's a decision. About once every 20 minutes (while 16 tabling on Full Tilt) a table doesn't pop up to the grid and in order to get it to pop up I have to send the "table the stack" hotkey so it gets reactivated and goes to the grid. Just doing that can be kind of tricky with the stack always flashing between tables. I'm not sure if this might be the problem: grid gets full and then instead of creating a queue from the stack of tables needing action right then, a table is sent to the slot where the stack is, and then when the grid frees up a slot the table stays where it is since it's already been assigned there. That's the best theory I can come up with although I don't think it's true since I'm pretty sure slots have been free in situations where this has occurred. I don't have slots overlapping each other in the grid. I have 9 slots set up, 8th slot is new tables, 9th slot is stack.
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08-18-2010 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
hrm, is there any rhyme or reason as to where the popup box appears? does it just appear on the last active table or something? maybe thats why it appears in the stack..

in other news, is the fold+stack bug gone? do tables stay in stack and not pop back out?
the pop up could appear anywhere on my 2 monitors.

yes the fold and stack bug is gone. So far all is perfect. It seems a bit more zippy - less laggy - than version 9.
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08-18-2010 , 08:25 AM
does it work with other ongame skins? betfair, bwin etc? Anyone know about software for stacking tables on betfair? Multitabling there is awful. :/

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08-18-2010 , 02:34 PM
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Just tried the latest version. The stack is in a state of perpetual flashing between tables. That really doesn't bother me that much though.
I'm still having the same issue where a table gets caught in the stack sometimes that never pops up to the grid. I have it set on Preflop mode so tables are supposed to pop up whenever there's a decision. About once every 20 minutes (while 16 tabling on Full Tilt) a table doesn't pop up to the grid and in order to get it to pop up I have to send the "table the stack" hotkey so it gets reactivated and goes to the grid. Just doing that can be kind of tricky with the stack always flashing between tables. I'm not sure if this might be the problem: grid gets full and then instead of creating a queue from the stack of tables needing action right then, a table is sent to the slot where the stack is, and then when the grid frees up a slot the table stays where it is since it's already been assigned there. That's the best theory I can come up with although I don't think it's true since I'm pretty sure slots have been free in situations where this has occurred. I don't have slots overlapping each other in the grid. I have 9 slots set up, 8th slot is new tables, 9th slot is stack.
Another note about this issue is that if I miss the table and it sits out, it will continue to be stuck until it is sent back to the stack via hotkey, even though it's already in the stack.
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08-18-2010 , 02:59 PM
Ok so I don't think this is working properly,

I have a grid of 4, when a table needs action should it pop into the grid until I fold it and it returns to the stack, cause at the moment the tables only stay in position 1 of the grid which is the stack position. I assumed the when a table needs action it should pop into a spare space on the grid until I fold and stack it, is this correct?
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08-18-2010 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shlade7
Just tried the latest version. The stack is in a state of perpetual flashing between tables. That really doesn't bother me that much though.
I'm still having the same issue where a table gets caught in the stack sometimes that never pops up to the grid. I have it set on Preflop mode so tables are supposed to pop up whenever there's a decision. About once every 20 minutes (while 16 tabling on Full Tilt) a table doesn't pop up to the grid and in order to get it to pop up I have to send the "table the stack" hotkey so it gets reactivated and goes to the grid. Just doing that can be kind of tricky with the stack always flashing between tables. I'm not sure if this might be the problem: grid gets full and then instead of creating a queue from the stack of tables needing action right then, a table is sent to the slot where the stack is, and then when the grid frees up a slot the table stays where it is since it's already been assigned there. That's the best theory I can come up with although I don't think it's true since I'm pretty sure slots have been free in situations where this has occurred. I don't have slots overlapping each other in the grid. I have 9 slots set up, 8th slot is new tables, 9th slot is stack.
i'm not sure i understand the problem. you are saying that occassionally a table in the stack will not pop out into the grid when action is required. ok. but then you send a 'table the stack' hotkey? can you tell me exactly what hotkey you are sending to the table to 'reactivate it' ?

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Another note about this issue is that if I miss the table and it sits out, it will continue to be stuck until it is sent back to the stack via hotkey, even though it's already in the stack.
continue to be stuck where?
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08-18-2010 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wtfdude
does it work with other ongame skins? betfair, bwin etc? Anyone know about software for stacking tables on betfair? Multitabling there is awful. :/
it is possible to work on other ongame skins, youll have to follow the tutorial on the website to add your own custom site
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08-18-2010 , 05:18 PM
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Ok so I don't think this is working properly,

I have a grid of 4, when a table needs action should it pop into the grid until I fold it and it returns to the stack, cause at the moment the tables only stay in position 1 of the grid which is the stack position. I assumed the when a table needs action it should pop into a spare space on the grid until I fold and stack it, is this correct?
yes exactly. have you clicked on Include Site under the Sites tab? perhaps you didnt press F10 when it was your turn to fold. i would suggest removing and re-including your site and paying close attention to when to press each key
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08-18-2010 , 07:51 PM
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Ahhh. I woke up this morning and can play poker again!

I'm have problems still with tables sometimes not doing an action when popping out, despite changing the delay setting....but I think that might be a problem with my slow laptop CPU trying to do HEM, TN, and SaT all together with 12+ tables (it might overheat and reset sometimes hehe). New desktop arriving next week specifically because I found this program and hope this will make things run smoother.
Ya know...I realized what was causing my problem. I don't know if I was supposed to turn off the stars "bring table to front" feature, but everything started working so much more smoothly when I did. Tables were constantly flickering in the main stack and hotkeys weren't popping out the tables once every few minutes. Pretty much perfect now...I do occasionally still have a table not pop out with VPIP key, but it's so rare now that it never causes a problem.
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08-18-2010 , 08:53 PM
My stack of tables is flickering on pokerstars. (SaT seems to be moving the tables to the back constantly).

I have searched for a solution in this thread. It seems others have had this problem too, but I can't see a solution!

Help greatly appreciated, i see you put a lot of work into this Greg.
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08-18-2010 , 10:23 PM
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My stack of tables is flickering on pokerstars. (SaT seems to be moving the tables to the back constantly).

I have searched for a solution in this thread. It seems others have had this problem too, but I can't see a solution!

Help greatly appreciated, i see you put a lot of work into this Greg.
bug was introduced in the latest version, will look into fixing it for next..
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08-19-2010 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
yes exactly. have you clicked on Include Site under the Sites tab? perhaps you didnt press F10 when it was your turn to fold. i would suggest removing and re-including your site and paying close attention to when to press each key
set up on play money tables, imo
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08-19-2010 , 07:45 AM
when a table breaks (everyone leaves) and I am left sitting alone at the table, the table stays in the stack & I don't know it is there until the session is over
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08-19-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by betweaver
when a table breaks (everyone leaves) and I am left sitting alone at the table, the table stays in the stack & I don't know it is there until the session is over
hahah. Maybe a timestamp should be put on each table and a check every few minutes to check for a table that's been inactive since the last check.

Anyway, regarding the problem I've been having.
Of the different action hotkeys available there's one that's just Stack Table which doesn't do anything except send the table back to the stack and then there's also Fold & Stack table which would fold on a table then send it back to the stack. The problem is when a table which has been up until then been functioning normally in the stack and popping up to the grid then being returned the stack, at some point does not pop up to the grid anymore. A new hand begins and where it would normally go to one of the empty slots, it just stays in the stack. In order to reactivate this table I send it the Stack Table hotkey. The table then (if it hasn't timed out yet) will be sent to an empty slot. If I send it the Fold & Stack hotkey the hand will fold and then the next hand at that table will function how it's supposed to. If I send it no hotkey and either play manually or let it time out, the table will stay where it is and not pop into the grid for the upcoming hands.
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08-19-2010 , 02:37 PM
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. The problem is when a table which has been up until then been functioning normally in the stack and popping up to the grid then being returned the stack, at some point does not pop up to the grid anymore. A new hand begins and where it would normally go to one of the empty slots, it just stays in the stack.
interesting.. and thanks, this clears it up for me..

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In order to reactivate this table I send it the Stack Table hotkey. The table then (if it hasn't timed out yet) will be sent to an empty slot.
this doesnt make sense to me. the Stack Table hotkey is supposed to move the table to the stack, not the grid.. but since the table is already in stack, it shouldnt do anything..

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If I send it the Fold & Stack hotkey the hand will fold and then the next hand at that table will function how it's supposed to. If I send it no hotkey and either play manually or let it time out, the table will stay where it is and not pop into the grid for the upcoming hands.
i wonder whats happening here. firstly, what version of the software are you using? perhaps SaT is somehow thinking the table is still in grid, and thats why it never moves to the grid, because it thinks its already there. i'm curious if the numbers for stacked/tiled/new tables are correct on the GUI under the Start! button when this happens. are you able to check this for me next time it happens?

this would explain why the 'Stack Table' hotkey sort of "resets" the table and it gets picked back up, and why i'd imagine a 'Fold+Stack' hotkey would do the same.. these hotkeys tell SaT that the table is no longer in grid, where, up until now, somehow SaT might be thinking that the table -IS- still in grid, even though its not

this is an important bug report, lets see if we can sort it out. also how many tables are you usually playing when it happens?
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08-19-2010 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by betweaver
when a table breaks (everyone leaves) and I am left sitting alone at the table, the table stays in the stack & I don't know it is there until the session is over
what site are you playing on? FTP has auto close table, but I think this is due to TableNinja FT.

Ongame can also autoclose but you will need OngameBetpot.
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08-19-2010 , 06:44 PM
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Is there a way to automatically transfer all new tables to the stack slot?

no, not at the moment. if you dont like the tables going to the New Tables stack when you press Start, you can always just turn off the New Tables stack by setting it to slot0. but perhaps there should be some way for this.
this answer was incorrect. i just tried setting the Stack and New Tables to the same slot number and it works.
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