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08-14-2010 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dblgutted
it doesn't go back into the stack when I fold (and the fold hotkey doesnt work at this point)
It is not supposed to go back into the stack with the FOLD hotkey. It is the FOLD AND STACK and STACK TABLE hotkeys that do that.

However, the KEEP TABLE IN GRID hotkey strangely enables a user to move a table from the STACK into the GRID. It works the same as the MANUALLY MOVE TABLE hotkey, except it locks the table in the GRID so that it will stay there and not go back into the STACK until you TOGGLE it with the KEEP TABLE IN GRID hotkey (you will see a little tooltip briefly pop up).


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Originally Posted by dblgutted
I have to click the manually move it out of stack again for it to unlock grid
can you explain what you mean here in more detail?
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08-14-2010 , 03:54 PM
ok trying to set this up initially ive got a few issues


one is the program visibly cycling through all tables in the stack about once a second

its just kind of distracting, is there a way i dont have to see that?

i saw some comments about flickering early on in the thread but never saw how they were resovled (nor do i know if this is what they were referring to)


second,
tables sometimes return to the stack but pop right back out (it seems the table gets moved instantly but it takes long enough for the cards to fold that they get detected and pop back out into the grid. how would i fix this (having to "fold and return to stack" twice for each table is entirely too much work)


third, sometimes folding causes a table to move to a diferent slot on the grid rather than back into the stack (im thinking this is just a variation of #2 and the table was returned to the stack but the hand wasnt mucked yet so it popped back out into a new slot)




also i dont think this functionality is designed into the script but would it be possible for a checkmark in the prefold box to supercede the presence of cards, sending the table back into the stack despite still having cards visible?

(its unnecessary for me to watch the action approaching my turn if i see ive been dealt 72 and id much rather have space for a new table or just have a less cluttered screen)
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08-14-2010 , 06:09 PM
Can I use this program on a mac, via fusion?
I'm trying now but I can't get past the "press F10", nothing happens when I click F10.
Yes I am running as administrator.
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08-14-2010 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
ok trying to set this up initially ive got a few issues


one is the program visibly cycling through all tables in the stack about once a second

its just kind of distracting, is there a way i dont have to see that?

i saw some comments about flickering early on in the thread but never saw how they were resovled (nor do i know if this is what they were referring to)
no the flickering is a different issue, sometimes the FTP tables would flicker.

the stack cycling through is to make sure that the stack keeps tables that require action on the top, even if another table is in grid and demanding attention. if you are using 'Preflop' tile setting, then you can simply move the stack partially off screen so you dont have to see this. actually, in 'Preflop' tile setting, i'm not certain that theres actually any need to cycle through the stack, since whenever a table requires action, it will move to grid. the only instance where its needed i think is if the grid is full. ill re-think this for future versions, thanks.

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second,
tables sometimes return to the stack but pop right back out (it seems the table gets moved instantly but it takes long enough for the cards to fold that they get detected and pop back out into the grid. how would i fix this (having to "fold and return to stack" twice for each table is entirely too much work)
this bug was introduced with this most recent version 1.99.10, and was not present previously. i'm looking into it, but i made some biggish changes to the strcture of the program so it will take a little time

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third, sometimes folding causes a table to move to a diferent slot on the grid rather than back into the stack (im thinking this is just a variation of #2 and the table was returned to the stack but the hand wasnt mucked yet so it popped back out into a new slot)
yeah, the table is going back to stack, and then back to the next available grid slot


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also i dont think this functionality is designed into the script but would it be possible for a checkmark in the prefold box to supercede the presence of cards, sending the table back into the stack despite still having cards visible?
this works for some sites. i'm pretty sure stars and ftp, if you press the 'fold+stack' hotkey on those tables, it will click the fold preselect checkbox and then send the table to stack
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08-14-2010 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BBSB
Can I use this program on a mac, via fusion?
I'm trying now but I can't get past the "press F10", nothing happens when I click F10.
Yes I am running as administrator.
no experience with mac. so you can set up grid properly, but you can't fold the hand during Include Site? if you can get it to work please confirm
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08-14-2010 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
no experience with mac. so you can set up grid properly, but you can't fold the hand during Include Site? if you can get it to work please confirm
I got it to work now. It was on my end. F10 apparently is not the same on the keyboard when I log into windows via fusion. But it worked when I used On-Screen keyboard. Very nice program, thank you.
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08-14-2010 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
no the flickering is a different issue, sometimes the FTP tables would flicker.

the stack cycling through is to make sure that the stack keeps tables that require action on the top, even if another table is in grid and demanding attention. if you are using 'Preflop' tile setting, then you can simply move the stack partially off screen so you dont have to see this. actually, in 'Preflop' tile setting, i'm not certain that theres actually any need to cycle through the stack, since whenever a table requires action, it will move to grid. the only instance where its needed i think is if the grid is full. ill re-think this for future versions, thanks.



this bug was introduced with this most recent version 1.99.10, and was not present previously. i'm looking into it, but i made some biggish changes to the strcture of the program so it will take a little time



this works for some sites. i'm pretty sure stars and ftp, if you press the 'fold+stack' hotkey on those tables, it will click the fold preselect checkbox and then send the table to stack
ill try 1.99.09 out to see if that runs smoother, ty

ive only tried it on stars tables so far and it didnt send talbes to the stack (or at least they didnt stay there maybe issue #2) maybe the previous version will work just how i want it. ill let you know

TYTY,
Joe
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08-14-2010 , 11:49 PM
yes, betweaver is also reporting the same as your issue #2 , thats certainly the problem. v 1.99.09 will expire tomorrow though, ill see if i can change that

v 1.99.09

still available and extended until aug 30th since v.10 is buggy

Last edited by greg nice; 08-14-2010 at 11:56 PM.
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08-15-2010 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by betweaver
It is not supposed to go back into the stack with the FOLD hotkey. It is the FOLD AND STACK and STACK TABLE hotkeys that do that.
Sorry for not being clear -- the fold and stack hotkey does not return it to stack (or fold).

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However, the KEEP TABLE IN GRID hotkey strangely enables a user to move a table from the STACK into the GRID. It works the same as the MANUALLY MOVE TABLE hotkey, except it locks the table in the GRID so that it will stay there and not go back into the STACK until you TOGGLE it with the KEEP TABLE IN GRID hotkey (you will see a little tooltip briefly pop up).
Aah, that might be it, I was using "keep table in grid" instead of "manually move table"


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can you explain what you mean here in more detail?
to move a table on which I previously used the "keep table in grid" hotkey I have to hit "keep table in grid" before the "stack table" hotkey works. As you said before, its probably because I should have used the "manually move table" hotkey...
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08-15-2010 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dblgutted
the fold and stack hotkey does not return it to stack (or fold)
If your cards folded during setup then perhaps you are running some other hotkey scripts that are in conflict with SaT.
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08-15-2010 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dblgutted
Sorry for not being clear -- the fold and stack hotkey does not return it to stack (or fold).
this is a bug in version 1.99.10. you can use 1.99.09 again until i work it out
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08-15-2010 , 11:37 AM
Hi does this work on Tower gaming / ongame cause I cant setup the grid f10 doesn't work I have tried running it as administrator but no luck.
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08-15-2010 , 11:55 AM
what site are you trying to include? there is nothing available for tower. there is a settings file for betsson poker which i believe is ongame. you might have to modify i though. check the tutorial on the website
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08-15-2010 , 01:49 PM
I have tried to modify it but I don't have a clue what to put in these lines

table_exclude_title_text=
table_include_title_text=

Where do I get this information?
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08-15-2010 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by $Betpot$
I have tried to modify it but I don't have a clue what to put in these lines

table_exclude_title_text=
table_include_title_text=

Where do I get this information?
you get this information from the title bars of the poker tables and lobby

for example, on the tutorial page here
http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/6

look at the stars title bar, it reads:

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Ingeborg III fast - 5/10 Play Money - No Limit Holdem - Logged in as YOURSCREENNAME
i dont know what the pokerstars lobby says, it might read something like

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Pokerstars Lobby
so, for those two settings, we need some text to identify what a table is (what text to include), and what text to exclude. we'll want to exclude some text of the lobby that distinguishes it from the normal tables. of course, you could just leave these blank if you wish, but then the lobby and other windows might get mistaken as poker tables

so we might do

Code:
table_exclude_title_text=Lobby
table_include_title_text=No Limit Holdem
now, theres a problem with this, because other game types won't say 'No Limit Holdem' in the title. it just so happens on pokerstars, every table will actually show 'Logged in as', so we would use that instead:

Code:
table_exclude_title_text=Lobby
table_include_title_text=Logged in as
(again, i forget if stars actually displays 'Lobby' in their lobby or not, but this is just an example)
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08-15-2010 , 08:29 PM
1.99.09 didnt have the cycling or popping back out issues

it did seem kind of herky jerky tho (not totally sure whaat i mean by that) there was some misclicks when new tables popped out of the stack as i was acting on one of the tiled ones (i have it set not to activate tables when they leave the stack but it seems they are active for a split second?)

ill have to mess around with it more later
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08-16-2010 , 12:28 PM
yeah, the upgrade to v.10 has some biggish changes under the hood and results were unpredictable.

are you sending hotkeys to active table instead of the table under mouse?
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08-16-2010 , 01:32 PM
Ok so here is what it says on the table title.

"Brentwood, No-limit Texas Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (real money) [ID=R5-75238353-322]"

Here is what it says in the lobby title.

"Tower Gaming - Welcome [screen name]!"

Here is what I am using now

table_exclude_title_text=Tower Gaming
table_include_title_text=(real money)

and its still wont recognise it when I press f10 so what do you suggest to use?

Thanks

Last edited by $Betpot$; 08-16-2010 at 01:40 PM.
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08-16-2010 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
yeah, the upgrade to v.10 has some biggish changes under the hood and results were unpredictable.

are you sending hotkeys to active table instead of the table under mouse?
ya im sending hotkey clicks to the active table

it seemed like the table getting moved was activated for a split second and would steal and then return focus from the table that was active (using TN with frames id have one table showing as active but have a mouse click sent to the table on the stack or just as it was moved out)
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08-16-2010 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by $Betpot$
and its still wont recognise it when I press f10 so what do you suggest to use?
f10 during Setup Grid or Include Site? are you running SaT as administrator? looks like the table_title settings are good. are all the other settings identical to the Betsson file that comes with the download?

Last edited by greg nice; 08-16-2010 at 03:35 PM.
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08-16-2010 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
ya im sending hotkey clicks to the active table

it seemed like the table getting moved was activated for a split second and would steal and then return focus from the table that was active (using TN with frames id have one table showing as active but have a mouse click sent to the table on the stack or just as it was moved out)
will look into it, sending hotkeys to active table was never tested thoroughly since most people used 'under mouse'
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08-16-2010 , 03:49 PM
I have finally got it working my f10 btn wasnt working for some reason anyway this is the code I have for tower gaming if anyone wants it thanks for the help anyway.

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[settings]

standard_table_width=784
standard_table_height=602

fold_button_x_coord=266
fold_button_y_coord=520

table_class=FlashHostClass
table_include_title_text=(real money)
table_exclude_title_text=Tower Gaming

use_basic_click=1
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08-16-2010 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
will look into it, sending hotkeys to active table was never tested thoroughly since most people used 'under mouse'
strikes me as an absolute ton of mouse movement (12 tile) but maybe ill see how that goes for a short set
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08-16-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by $Betpot$
I have finally got it working my f10 btn wasnt working for some reason anyway this is the code I have for tower gaming if anyone wants it thanks for the help anyway.
great to hear, post any other issues
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08-16-2010 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22

it seemed like the table getting moved was activated for a split second and would steal and then return focus from the table that was active (using TN with frames id have one table showing as active but have a mouse click sent to the table on the stack or just as it was moved out)
ok, i just tested this with rolands ahk highlighter, and i didnt see SaT causing a table to steal focus briefly..

however, i think i might know what your problem is

look at the link here:
http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/11

do you have that stars option turned on or off?

when i turned that stars option on, then despite having SaT 'activate on move to grid' unchecked, there still was a focus change. if i turn the stars option off, SaT works as expected

let me know what happens for you
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