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07-06-2017 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Yes I can help over skype, but its gonna be a waste of time unless we know exactly how to reproduce the problem. Do you know how to reproduce it? Or does it just happen randomly? I haven't been able to trigger it on my machine. We are talking about the tables just dropping out, right?
I have no idea why it happening no. It's always 1 or 2 tables that just randomly freeze. And then the other tables I can just continue. The tables that freeze I can't do anything, not even when I close SAT. So I guess it's just happening randomly yeah. And yes the tables just freeze and the only thing I can do is restart 888 and then they work again ( not allways tho, sometimes have to restart 888 multiple times )
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07-06-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmagico19A1
I have no idea why it happening no. It's always 1 or 2 tables that just randomly freeze. And then the other tables I can just continue. The tables that freeze I can't do anything, not even when I close SAT. So I guess it's just happening randomly yeah. And yes the tables just freeze and the only thing I can do is restart 888 and then they work again ( not allways tho, sometimes have to restart 888 multiple times )
Ok, you have PM
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07-11-2017 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NutCrackerAA
Hi,

I have a question about StacknTile.

When i am required to make an action, my cycle forward and backwards in the stack locks up (unless i move this table to a grid slot, then the cycle of the stack of tables resumes as normal)

This is quite frustrating as a player who prefers to Stack, as i wish to be able to either cycle through all of the coming decisions (to see if i can make some quick folds or w/e while i make a more important decision).

I really like the fact i can cycle through more alternate sites like i do on pokerstars with their hotkeys, allows me to keep track of tables in the stack and coming decisions.

Is there a way to override the locked focus of the most urgent action pending? (i have tried turning off Activate focus which doesnt seem to change anything) - and tried different variations of having the site force pop up and not (or even just not having pokerstars setup through your software so as could try use it just on other sites, but it still locked up the poker stars cycle keys once a decision was needed)

I will definitely purchase the software if there is a way around this, just feels off having table lock on top of the stack and have to act on that exact decision or move it to a grid slot to gain back the cycle functionality (or even to be able to cycle through all pending decisions that are urgent but not first)

Hopefully that word mess explains my question

Thanks

Nick
Well first of all, another user has reported some problems with the Cycle Stack hotkeys. They were never thoroughly tested, but they should work in most cases. Another alternative is to use the "Send table to bottom" hotkey, which effectively acts similarly

But that doesn't sound like your problem. When its your turn to act, SaT brings that table to the top. If a cycle hotkey (or send to bottom hotkey) would override that, then you would have to spam that cycle hotkey again to try to rush to find the table that requires action again. Which is kinda counterproductive to what the program's goals are.

You definitely don't want to change any settings within the site clients. You always want to have their own "pop up" option turned off.

But if you want this, in SaT, you'd want to turn off the "Activate table when action required" setting in Advcaned Options. That is one. But there is another setting you need to turn off that isn't documented, because really this use-case isn't really recommended. Add this line to your config:

Code:
[settings]
bring_urgent_tables_to_top=0
...
by following the instructions on this page:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options

Let me know if it works
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07-11-2017 , 10:02 AM
Thanks for the reply.

That didn't see to change anything when i added that line to the settings file. The most important action holds the top of the stack unless moved, other tables and be cycled to even if require an action themselves.

Basically i am trying to emulate what i currently have on stars, but have the cycling or go to most important decision button hotkeys.

Stars has:

Go to 'First Action Table' which i have set as 'up arrow'
Activate next table 'right arrow'
Activate previous table 'left arrow

A normal sequence would be something like I raise a pot see it get called, new table pops up over the top (action pending) i now click 'left arrow' to flick back to view the action before action on the current table. To get back to the table needing action i hit 'up arrow' if i hit this a few times it cycles between ones needing action (i think) but it allows cycle never to be locked by 1 table needing action

So it does mean i hit up a lot to reset to the most important action, but allows me to stack better or at least maybe quickly flick and fold a few while making a decision without having to always pull it out of the stack to gain that functionality.

I have sorta seen it done with AHK but was limited to one application over many.

Thanks again
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07-11-2017 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NutCrackerAA
Thanks for the reply.

That didn't see to change anything when i added that line to the settings file. The most important action holds the top of the stack unless moved, other tables and be cycled to even if require an action themselves.

Basically i am trying to emulate what i currently have on stars, but have the cycling or go to most important decision button hotkeys.

Stars has:

Go to 'First Action Table' which i have set as 'up arrow'
Activate next table 'right arrow'
Activate previous table 'left arrow

A normal sequence would be something like I raise a pot see it get called, new table pops up over the top (action pending) i now click 'left arrow' to flick back to view the action before action on the current table. To get back to the table needing action i hit 'up arrow' if i hit this a few times it cycles between ones needing action (i think) but it allows cycle never to be locked by 1 table needing action

So it does mean i hit up a lot to reset to the most important action, but allows me to stack better or at least maybe quickly flick and fold a few while making a decision without having to always pull it out of the stack to gain that functionality.

I have sorta seen it done with AHK but was limited to one application over many.

Thanks again
Thanks for your use-case scenario. That does make sense.

Hrmmm yes I see, I'm sorry, I hadn't checked the code before replying, and I was mistaken on how it actually works. Yes, when the top table in the stack requires action, those Cycle hotkeys override and disallow cycling. I think I was running into the problems I mentioned in the previous post where the cycling was buggy and I had tried that fix to prevent it.

Alright, I just built this test version 2.94q please download and install it:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...Setup-294q.exe

in addition to the line above that I had you add to your config, also add this line:

Code:
block_cycling_when_action_required=0
Also I think you should still leave the "Activate table when action required" turned ON within Advanced Options

Finally, SaT has a hotkey to "Activate most urgent table" which can mimic your Stars hotkey

Let me know how that goes
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07-11-2017 , 10:39 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the quick update!

With the update applied, also those two lines of code added to the settings file:
"block_cycling_when_action_required=0"
"bring_urgent_tables_to_top=0"
And "Activate (Focus) table when action required is TICKED.

The cycle and move back to most urgent table hotkeys work correctly.
Tested it using pokerstars with no hotkeys on pokerstars running.
Then tested it with multiple poker sites running tables which also worked correctly (no tables popped up over the most urgent, and cycling still worked)

Cheers for the quick update, this will basically allow me to multi site tournaments, thanks a bunch.
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07-11-2017 , 10:43 PM
great to hear
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07-21-2017 , 12:44 AM
Working flawlessly for ACR but not BCP. Tables will send to stack using hotkeys, but often don't pop out on action. Is there a way to add BCP as another site, or another solution? Winning Network is already listed so not sure how to add it again, or add and remove, as you usually advise. Thanks.
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07-21-2017 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by xOxOCDelite
Working flawlessly for ACR but not BCP. Tables will send to stack using hotkeys, but often don't pop out on action. Is there a way to add BCP as another site, or another solution? Winning Network is already listed so not sure how to add it again, or add and remove, as you usually advise. Thanks.
Ehhh, are you saying you are trying to play at both ACR and BCP at the same time? Because yes, then the built in WinningPoker site will only work for the skin that you used when you originally Included the site..
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07-21-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Ehhh, are you saying you are trying to play at both ACR and BCP at the same time? Because yes, then the built in WinningPoker site will only work for the skin that you used when you originally Included the site..
It's not possible (or allowed) to run multiple skins at the same time, but I do switch between for action/deception.

I guess I need to remake a layout for BCP and then switch between layouts when switching between skins? No other way? I'm curious which table elements are different, as they look so similar. I figured I could use the same theme and have it pick up both without issue.

Thanks for the quick response as usual.
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07-21-2017 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xOxOCDelite
It's not possible (or allowed) to run multiple skins at the same time, but I do switch between for action/deception.

I guess I need to remake a layout for BCP and then switch between layouts when switching between skins? No other way? I'm curious which table elements are different, as they look so similar. I figured I could use the same theme and have it pick up both without issue.

Thanks for the quick response as usual.
SaT scans for the button colors.. As I remember, ACR uses red buttons and BCP uses blue buttons, but I could be wrong.

So yeah, you'd either need to Remove/Re-Include the WinningPoker site each time you change skins, or just have two separate layouts that you can quickly switch to.
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07-22-2017 , 01:24 AM
Had a windows 10 update today and now the client is lagging with SaT, anyone else solve?
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07-22-2017 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Had a windows 10 update today and now the client is lagging with SaT, anyone else solve?
What client?
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07-22-2017 , 04:32 AM
BOL, Performance tho said client was using upwards of 60% so I don't think its a SaT problem now
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07-22-2017 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
BOL, Performance tho said client was using upwards of 60% so I don't think its a SaT problem now
Hrmm, I wonder what the Win10 update did to it.. Keep an eye out and let me know
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07-23-2017 , 06:37 AM
Hi,

I am having some problems stacking tables with chico, they do not always pop up, while it works fine for ACR and ignition. Is this a common issue?

Thanks
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07-23-2017 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yea95
Hi,

I am having some problems stacking tables with chico, they do not always pop up, while it works fine for ACR and ignition. Is this a common issue?

Thanks
Tables not popping up is a common issue, and usually a setup/configuration problem. However, since this is happening on Chico, I'd first make sure that your Chico settings are correct. See this page for the right graphics settings that you need to choose:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/chico

If you had chosen the wrong one, then I'd suggest you Remove and re-Include the site. Then next thing I'd do is run through the Test described here:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly

Hand grabbers can sometimes cause problems, but I'd go through the steps above first

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/hand-grabbers
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07-23-2017 , 05:23 PM
I am trying out the software (14 day free trial) and have a quick question. When I set up a custom site is Bet, Fold, Call the only things I can do? i.e. i want to be able to bet pot, bet increase, bet decrease, cycle through table, advanced action fold, etc.

Thanks for your time!
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07-23-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Oakdale
I am trying out the software (14 day free trial) and have a quick question. When I set up a custom site is Bet, Fold, Call the only things I can do? i.e. i want to be able to bet pot, bet increase, bet decrease, cycle through table, advanced action fold, etc.

Thanks for your time!
Yes you can, you'd just need to add the lines manually, since I never updated the Custom Site Wizard. What site is this for?

These are the lines you'd need to add:

Code:
increasebet_x_coord=
increasebet_y_coord=

decreasebet_x_coord=
decreasebet_y_coord=

fold_checkbox_x_coord=
fold_checkbox_y_coord=

betsize1_x_coord=
betsize1_y_coord=
...
betsize5_x_coord=
betsize5_y_coord=
See this page for instructions on how to grab these coordinates:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/bet-size-hotkeys
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07-23-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Yes you can, you'd just need to add the lines manually, since I never updated the Custom Site Wizard. What site is this for?
I am setting up Global. I have been able to get the Fold check box and bet size 1 thru 4 done.

Will work on the bet increase decrease tonight.

I have been a customer of one of your competitors for multiple years and when I asked to have some help on getting Global set-up I was put off a few times and on my 3rd request, in a 3 week period mind you, I was told "It's not a priority". As luck would have it my yearly subscription came due 5 days later. I cancelled and am very glad I checked out your product. I do believe it will fit the bill for exactly what I am needing.

Also, thanks for the quick reply. It makes a difference.
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07-23-2017 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Oakdale
I am setting up Global. I have been able to get the Fold check box and bet size 1 thru 4 done.

Will work on the bet increase decrease tonight.

I have been a customer of one of your competitors for multiple years and when I asked to have some help on getting Global set-up I was put off a few times and on my 3rd request, in a 3 week period mind you, I was told "It's not a priority". As luck would have it my yearly subscription came due 5 days later. I cancelled and am very glad I checked out your product. I do believe it will fit the bill for exactly what I am needing.

Also, thanks for the quick reply. It makes a difference.
Yeah man I try my best. I understand the sentiment. There is always a trade off when adding new sites or new features, as to just how many users will end up using these new features, and whether its worth the development time. That's why very early on in the software I added the ability for users to add their own custom sites, for some of these smaller networks.

There is also the issue when adding new features that, any new feature has the potential to introduce new bugs. While SaT might be slightly behind on some of the cutting edge features, I feel like 1. many of those features would fall outside the scope of the product as I originally intended it, and 2. they also could compromise the stability of the product. I have had people tell me that SaT just works smoother. But I have no benchmark for myself.

If you need any more help, feel free to ask
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07-24-2017 , 01:20 AM
Greg
I could use your help. I have tried everything I can think of to make decrease bet work. Is there any insight you could give me?

Thanks
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07-24-2017 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Oakdale
Greg
I could use your help. I have tried everything I can think of to make decrease bet work. Is there any insight you could give me?

Thanks
Is there an actual "decrease bet" button on the table itself? Usually on most poker sites these are simply +/- buttons next to the bet slider. Can you post a screenshot of the table?
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07-24-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Is there an actual "decrease bet" button on the table itself? Usually on most poker sites these are simply +/- buttons next to the bet slider. Can you post a screenshot of the table?
There isn't an actual + or - I am having to click inside of the "line(?)"

I got the increase to work all the way to all in or pot, as the case may be. I can not get it to decrease to save my life. It's something I use quite often. I play a lot of PLO and will pot minus a few bb quite often.

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Last edited by Oakdale; 07-24-2017 at 01:19 PM.
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07-24-2017 , 02:09 PM
Hrmmm, if clicking on the slider bar itself works for the mouse, then we should be able to do that. I take it that's what you're doing for the "increase bet" hotkey?

Can you post me your custom site config as you have it right now? And can you post me a screenshot of the table with the buttons visible, but using SaT's Help->Diagnostic->Screenshot with GDIP function? That way I can see the actual table size and what coordinates you're trying.

Also, if you try to copy the value from the betbox and paste it into notepad, does that work? And if you try to paste a different value into the betbox, does that work?
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