sure. thanks.

v 2.58

http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...d=3696#pid3696

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/

Thanks. Works great.

two things:
* for the "move table to bottom" hotkey, can you have the "top" table highlighted after the previous table is sent to the bottom? Otherwise, you can't smoothly cycle through the tables - you need to "move table to bottom", then click another table (since the bottom table is highlighted), "move table to bottom", etc. Ideally, you should just be able to click "move table to bottom", "move table to bottom", "move table to bottom"... and cycle through the tables. A table requiring action in the interim should still be sent to the top.
* since you have a hotkey for "move to NEW table stack", how about a hotkey to "move to OLD table stack"? I would find the latter more useful (and I can use as a second stack to multi-stack).

I understand your issue, but I don't think this hotkey should be changing the active/focused table. There are probably other scenarios that would need to be accounted for that might get messed up.

Sure this is possible to do. I just figured that most people are moving Old Tables to the grid so never bothered to make this. I can do it next version

I don't understand why you would want the table you just sent to the bottom of the stack to be highlighted after you just sent it to the bottom - you won't even be able to see it. What else you you want to use this hotkey for, if not for cycling through tables?

Perhaps I can ask another way... can you make a new hotkey that would actually allow you to cycle thru tables? I could see a "cycle thru all tables" and a "cycle thru tables requiring action" to both be pretty useful. The way it is now, having to click on a new table after you just sent a table to the bottom and repeating that process to cycle thru table is very cumbersome - especially if I stack and have to find a table.

The hotkey isn't necessarily meant to 'cycle' through anything. It simply does what it says, move a table to the bottom.

One problem with changing focus would be, suppose a table in grid is the active/focused/highlighted table. But the topmost stack table is not important for you and you want to see the tables underneath in the stack, while you are still thinking about the active table in the grid. Using the 'send table to bottom' allows you to move your mouse over the stack and 'send table to bottom' so you can do that, while leaving the focus on the table in the grid. Although obviously this wouldn't work if you are sending hotkeys to the active table.

To be honest, I've always assumed that people are sending hotkeys to the table under the mouse. So once you send a table to the bottom, your mouse is already over the now topmost table, so whatever hotkey you press will be sent to that table. It sounds like you are sending hotkeys to the active table instead, which is whats causing your extra clicks. I agree that this would be a pain. Is there a particular reason why you're doing that?

only multitabling fish use a mouse. ;-)

I try not use the mouse, since it's a lot of extraneous movement hand/wrist/arm. I use a gamepad so it's just 1 click usually and off to the next table.

Couldn't you just put a line in the code that says something like, "if 'send hotkeys to active table' then select top table (after moving former table to bottom)"?

Or is it possible to create a new separate "cycle" hotkey(s) as previously suggested?

Ah gamepad ok. I will have to think about the best way to approach it. Probably something like, "only if current active table is in the stack, then send to bottom and activate the next table". Because this wouldn't make sense for tables in the grid anyway

that makes sense. thanks.

On the new mercury theme on stars 7, the red carpet background makes SaT always think action is on me.

Directions for upgrading to ps7 are here if you havent seen it yet: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=280

I've been messing around with the increase/decrease bet hotkeys as opposed to using the scroll wheel. It works great on some sites, but on pokerstars it only works if i click to highlight the bet amount first. It also doesnt work at all for my custom microgaming skin. For both these sites, the scroll wheel works fine by itself as long as the focus is on the table. Do you have any ideas for me to fix this?

Also, on ipoker, the increase/decrease only works for me if the focus is on the bet. I imagine this is as good as it's going to get since I could never get the scroll wheel to work there anyways?

*I'm using stars mercury theme, but the same thing happens if i switch back to nova

Nevermind this, I forgot which button i set as the hotkey. As a side note, the up arrow on the keyboard raises the bet size on ipoker so you could probably make the hotkey work there.

i will try to get the stars7 mercury theme working for the next release.

as for the ipoker up arrow, the SaT hotkey has options for halfsb,sb,bb so i dont know how good it will be, but i suppose as a fall back SaT can just send up/down arrow on ipoker. SaT should already be sending wheelup/down. does that not work? meaning, if you dont use SaT, does your scroll wheel change the bet size? because thats what SaT attempts to send

The mouse wheel doesn't work at all on ipoker without sat. Sending a click for the up or down arrow should work, or what might even better would be putting focus on the bet box then pressing the arrow .

Also I'm not sure if I have a setting wrong it something, but the increase bet hotkey isn't working very well for me on party, stars, and 888, where the mouse wheel normally works fine by itself. For example, on stars, if the blinds are 300/600, I have to press the increase bet hotkey five times to raise to 1500. It will type in 300, then 600 etc into the bet box. On 888, it types in numbers, but often types in more than one number without reading the last number, making the bet all in. Party doesn't seem to do anything.

It's not a big deal to me as I'm thinking of starting to play with an Xbox controller. I can just map the mouse wheel to increase/decrease bet and it will work in the majority of sites. But if you do have an easy fix I'd like to try it.
Thanks

as noted on this page:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/hotkeys

iPoker is not one of the supported sites for the Increase/Decrease bet hotkey, so instead, SaT just falls back to sending a Wheel Up/Down click. so this hotkey should produce the same results as using the normal mouse wheel on the table without SaT

unfortunately i cannot focus the betbox because it is not exposed programmatically. the sites that expose it are those listed on that page.


those sites do expose the betbox control, so SaT attempts to focus it, read the number, perform the math, and update the box. recent versions have attempted to make this process more reliable, where 1. SaT will add some brief delay so that the new number that is input will give time for the raise button to update, 2. remove the ".00" from the number if its a whole number and 3. SaT won't allow the hotkey to be spammed. so first question would be are you using the latest SaT version? but as you can see, i'm trying to optimize this so that it works better, so its quite possible that these bugs are happening. are those bugs consistent? what i mean is, on stars is it always the same problem of starting at the small blind amount instead of the minraise amount? on 888 is it always the problem of going allin? or do these problems mix and match across different sites?

yes, it seems like the problems are pretty consistent. On stars, before I've completed any action, it will see the empty bet box and start the bet at 1 sb, even though that's below the minraise. On 888, it will usually type in the correct number (then 888 will make a dinging noise), but once in a while it will type in the number twice to make me go all in. So if the blinds are 100/200, i'll press the button twice and it will type in "100200" into the bet box which will make it an all in bet if i have less than that many chips.

I'm not too sure why the increase/decrease button doesnt just simulate a mouse wheel click on sites where it works? Unless you do it the other way for the people who want the non-default bet sizes. Either way i'm not too concerned since the mouse wheel works pretty well for me on most sites.

why is your betbox empty? isn't the betbox supposed to show the minraise size by default? so at 300/600, the betbox should already have 1200? maybe you have some other software interfering with that?

i will test on 888 and see what i can do

because i think by default the mousewheel increases by 'bb' increments on all sites. so on the sites where SaT can read the betbox, this allows me to increase by 'sb' or 'halfsb' increments if the users wish.

i can always just add a hotkey to simulate Wheel Up/Down clicks as well if thats what you're wanting.. dont know how useful that is

My stars bet box has always been empty. I don't think I run any software that would change it.

I appreciate it, but I think I'm just going to continue to use the mouse wheel by itself as it seems to work much better for me. Most sites have an option to change it to sb instead of bb anyways.

yeah if mouse wheel already works fine for you then theres no reason to try the SaT hotkey.

as for the betbox, i don't think i've ever seen a site which has the betbox empty, but i could be mistaken. i thought it usually defaults to the minraise size.

v 2.59
- added: new Stars7 theme: PokerStarsMercury (req, 2)
- added: Adv Option to stack tables when clicking 'call' or 'bet' with mouse
- added: new hotkey to Activate Next Slot
- changed: Send Table To Bottom hotkey now activates the topmost stack table if sending hotkeys to active table (req)
- changed: Stars now allows "FPP" tournaments in small stakes version (bug)
- fixed: StarsHyperSimple 'Bet' hotkey wasn't working (bug)
- fixed: more fixes for the Increase/Decrease bet hotkeys

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/



i decided against adding this hotkey.. i don't think people should be using the Old Tables slot as an extra stack. i don't think this will work properly and may cause unexpected results. unfortunately there is currently no way to use multiple stacks within SaT. other people have accomplished it by running multiple instances of SaT simultaneously, and taking care to include separate sites in each instance and making sure the layouts don't overlap

is there a way to increase the width of the border around the active table?

yes, see this page:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...vanced-options

youll want to add this line to your layout file:

thanks. also getting rid of the stacking delayed helped me time out less.

on merge, when I click on one of the preset bet buttons (like 1/2 pot) with my mouse, SaT seems to think I clicked on one of the action buttons and moves the table to the bottom of the queue.