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07-22-2008 , 06:37 PM
I think it automatically sets the edge far too high in SNGWiz. SNGPT's EV_Fold was calculated by simulating all players folding to the BB (very unrealistic), so it needed a bigger edge to account for potential action after you fold. SNGWiz on the other hand does simulate future action and because of this you should generally use a smaller edge.

I would think that about 0.3% would be the absolute maximum you would want to be passing up (when still relatively early - so as not to throw away your "future potential gains" and/or hurt your image [which can cost you "fold equity" later in the game]). This should be reduced down to about 0.1% when you get to the bubble and by HU you should be taking almost any edge.

Juk
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07-22-2008 , 09:59 PM
This question is answered in the sngwiz FAQ.
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07-23-2008 , 10:18 AM
Ty Ty... much appreciated
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08-30-2008 , 07:29 PM
I just bought this software. I've figured out how to upload my HH, but I don't really feel like I'm getting much out of my tournament analysis. Does anyone have a video or a link to another thread where someone goes through the process of analyzing their play after a session with this software?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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08-31-2008 , 02:28 PM
At stoxpoker.com there should be free video tutorial on subject made by Collin Moshman
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08-31-2008 , 03:53 PM
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At stoxpoker.com there should be free video tutorial on subject made by Collin Moshman
Not free anymore :/

I made a post about it earlier this month, couple days later all of the free videos mentioned in this post were taken down. Not sure if this link will work, but it searches stox for the SNGWIZ video, and you can only watch a 3 min demo for free. :/

SNG Wiz actually offers a couple video tutorials on their website to help get you started.
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09-23-2008 , 08:25 AM
Hello.

I have observed some strange things in the HR from SNGWiz

Have a look on these 3 printscreen :







In the first one we have 15.5% and A8o is in the bottom range.
In the second one, 18.9%, bottom range is now A7o
and in the last, 23.4%; Bottom range is A8o again...where is A7o ?

Can't find any explanation...and you?

Efpé
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09-23-2008 , 08:59 AM
The order of hands in the hero’s hand range varies depending on the situation.
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10-08-2008 , 04:44 PM
I recently downloaded sitNgo Wizard because I want to master the late game short stack strategy. It seems like a pretty decent program but I think it is missing an important element which is taking into account the amount of time before the blinds raise.. The amount of time before the blinds raise seems quite important (but maybe its not) especially if you are playing turbo tournaments where every 5-7 hands the blinds raise and you can quickly go from 6x the BB to just under 4x.. So I am wondering if somehow this program takes that into account and if it doesn't how should i adjust my play and analysis of my play using this program to max profit?

Any ideas or info would be much appreciated.

Late game short stack is a pain in the ass ! ! !
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10-08-2008 , 06:21 PM
Also does this program take into account when the blinds are going to hit you or is that something you are not supposed to worry about?
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10-08-2008 , 06:57 PM
Short answer, it will if you turn on the Future Game Simulation option, but you have to be very, very good with both SNG Wizard and ICM-based SNG calculations in general to do this. That means understanding and setting every single range for the entire tree. I suggest that most beginners avoid this and stick with single-hand simulations.
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10-21-2008 , 06:59 AM
I've got a (glorious) week of vacation next week with nothing to do but play poker and work on my game. On my "non-playing" Todo list is to purchase SNGWiz, at least I think.

I currently use the free SNGEGT to work out ICM situations post-game, and I'm wondering what the (significantly more) expensive SNGWiz will do for my game that SNGEGT won't. Can someone who has used both provide a compare/contrast?

thanks.

PS: I know that there's a trial, but I downloaded it and used up the minutes very early in my poker career, before I even knew what ICM was, so I can no longer check it out on my own.
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10-21-2008 , 08:51 AM
If you send me an email with your license ID, found in the About box on the Wizard's help menu, I can extend your trial.
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11-01-2008 , 04:20 PM
So I just downloaded the trial version and I went throught he tutorial and everything and I still don't know exactly how to use for the sngs I'm playing. I realize what it does but I can't get it to start up when I am playing a sng.

Any suggestions or pointers would be great,
thanks.
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11-01-2008 , 04:32 PM
SNGW is for post-game analysis, not real-time advising whilst actually playing (which is against the T&Cs of most sites anyway).
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11-01-2008 , 06:19 PM
Oh ok, that makes way more sense now. Thank you.
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11-05-2008 , 04:49 PM
Anybody knows where does it keep its installation's date in? Prob somewhere in register or anywhere else?
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11-18-2008 , 05:11 PM
I was going to post the exact same question. Anyone? Free SNGEGT vs $99 SNG Wiz. 2+2ers seem to live Wiz, but can anyone provide an pros /cons overview of these two?
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11-19-2008 , 08:32 PM
I have evaluated SNGWiz since my trial was (graciously) extended. I think it's worth the money. The main thing it lets you do is load up an entire tournament at once and it shows you icons next to each hand in a grid for good ICM play, poor ICM play, or "warnings" (like shoving with over 10BB).

I have not ponied up the $99 bills yet, but I plan to, probably on my holiday break.
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12-11-2008 , 01:17 AM
Would it be possible, or has it been talked about, for SNG Wizard to incorporate Nash Equilibrium solutions as an option in its opponent modeling?

Can NE easily be solved for different sized stacks, blinds, payout?

I saw one wizard that would calcluate this, but if I'm remembering correctly, it did equal stacks.

Also, anyone know the details of the empirical opponent modeling option? I know that real data was used, and I remember a period where users could opt-in to volunteer their data.
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12-11-2008 , 06:58 AM
It's something I'm interested to. From my understanding, SNGW / SNGEGT / SNGPT just uses opponent modelling and you have to use trial and error to find an equilibrium point, correct? The holdemresources is the only site or program I know of that attempts to automatically estimate an equilibrium point, does anyone know what kind of algorithm it uses? Does it just use trial and error too to find a close balance?

Either way it would be awesome for SNGW to incorporate this.
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12-11-2008 , 08:43 AM
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It's something I'm interested to. From my understanding, SNGW / SNGEGT / SNGPT just uses opponent modelling and you have to use trial and error to find an equilibrium point, correct? The holdemresources is the only site or program I know of that attempts to automatically estimate an equilibrium point, does anyone know what kind of algorithm it uses? Does it just use trial and error too to find a close balance?
It uses Fictitious Play to find a close approximation to the equilibrium. SNGEGT can also set the ranges using Fictitious Play, but the difference is that the holdemresources code can handle overcalls whereas the SNGEGT code can't (without overcalls you only have to optimize 2D strategy vectors, whereas with overcalls you have to optimize much more complex 3D strategy vectors).

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Either way it would be awesome for SNGW to incorporate this.
IIRC, when he first wrote SNGWiz he actually set the ranges using some variant of Fictitious Play as well. I think people found it gave strange ranges and then worked towards using the current opponent model version (not sure why he didn't leave it in as an option though?).

Juk
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01-02-2009 , 11:02 PM
i am simulating some 3-bet all in moves vs open raises, and am struggling to understand what the charts represent. can someone link me to a tutorial, or any past posts that can help me read these charts.

thanks in advance
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01-23-2009 , 02:37 PM
Hi all,

I just downloaded SNGWiz and am starting to play around with it. When I analyze a tourney, sometimes the view where all of the hands are listed in a table will show a "warning" symbol next to a hand as opposed to a "success" or "error". I can't always tell what the warning is. More often than not, it's on a hand where I've gone against SNGWiz' recommendation. Does the warning mean that it's only a marginal error or is it trying to tell me something else?

Thanks
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