thank you SilentNoise, sorry if my other post came off as rude, was just very ironic that it was 2 pages long with no answer to the question I had asked.

I've used SNGEGT in realtime, out of curiosity more than anything. The game theory based ranges seem at times reasonable and at times way off. Also if you don't open the pot (ie someone raises (not allin) or limps) it can't calculate the ev difference. Same thing if you're facing multiple all-ins or basically any situation with multiple playres already putting money in the pot. Bottom line if you're looking for something that will completely optimize your late game STT play just by clicking a button you aren't going to be happy with it. Also I can't speak for stars or FTP but it doesn't run well in realtime w/ party. SNGWiz is far superior for post-game reviewage.

As for the ethical debate surrounding the realtime version of SNGEGT, I tend to agree with Juk in that I wish it wasn't allowed, but I don't care that much since I know people will be making mistakes listening to the game-theory based range advice. However I should say that if a program existed that did the same thing, and calculated ranges from a PT database or something, and it were accurate, and it was deemed 'fair' by the industry, you'd better believe that I'd be using it since I'm in the business of poker and seek to use every fair advantage available.

I have a Mac and I recently bought VMWARE Fusion to run Windows on it so that I could use all these poker softwares. As it turns out both SNGWiz and SNGEGT shut down when I try to use them. I contacted SNG Wiz and they tried to help but couldn't find any problem. They said that it might be VMWARE Fusion that is the root of the problem.

So I was wondering if anyone who owns a Mac, uses VMWARE Fusion has had similar problems?

Did you install the .NET 2.0 framework in VMWare Fusion? Did you create a Windows XP virtual image? You need to have a virtual Windows XP OS or Windows Vista OS in order to make it work.

I did install the .Net 2.0 Framework.

But how do I create a Windows XP virtual image?

*bump

so Juk is sng egt a good thing to try out?

I want to know what I can call with if I 3x raise and then bb shoves over the top. Can it do this? When I put the hand in wiz only lets me choose push/fold.

Here's the raw hh. The example sucks since I'm never just raising here unless it's a unique situation, but you get the idea.

http://pastebin.com/d52f6aaff

You cannot do that with Wiz.

zomg wtf someone make new better icm thing plz

This question has probably been asked before, but i couldnt seem to find an existing thread.

I play a lot of SNGs on a site that is not directly supported by SNG Wiz also the damn poker client software does not allow you to get an output of hands played.

So Im wondering is there any way (perhaps using third party software) to track the table while im playing and then export the hand history in a SNG Wiz friendly format?

thanks

There isn't anything like this as far as I know, but in the past there has been some discussions of a standard XML format. Sadly, it's never come to fruition though.

Juk

drzen,

sorry for the late question to your post. I just stumbled over pokerhound for the first time. It might be my poor english but as I understand it pokerhound just claims to be able to do all that what OP is asking for and it seems to be fine even with stars.

Did you try it since? What is the downswing to it in your opinion?

Learn ICM and define calling ranges is more important anyway? But how 'bout the opponent stats that will be displayed.

In generall I think live software should be banned at all, I like the WIZ for reviewing alot.

There is no software like OP asks for.

The one that Stars allows right now is not based on PokerTracker stats, its using a Game Theory model.


I think Stars would be more inclined to ban it if it used PokerTracker stats.

I would vote for banning it, but even if it was banned, there will be players out there using their own fabricated and
therefor impossible to catch software with a GT-model.

thanks,

but doesn't pokerhound say that they take into consideration that they use at least the hands that were played in the tourney so far?

So it could help opponents to get an idea about your range (especially when they are mutitabelling), right ?

I dont know.

But its shady territory, that I know.

...and a bad world, too

I was WRONG.

PokerHound website says: Ranges derive from player's style


..

ROI for players who just follow PokerHound's advice?

Let's just say that they probably form a part of your ROI.

Has anyone using OSX leopard had any success using sngwiz via wine?

Sngwiz requires the .net framework which doesn't work through wine, so I tried out mono but still no results.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Spare me the "you should use bootcamp/vmware/paralells/you should get windoze" part of your comments.

i use it with parallels. i have crossover installed, by haven't tried it that way. Maybe i'll give it a shot later.

In your SNGWiz when running a hand, it has different Edge(%), and it differs in induvidual hands (seems that the program chooses how much you "need").
I can change this, but I would like to know why this exists? Is it to lower variance? Don't get it. Can you just set it to 0.0 and have that be the best play?

I have tryed to find it online, but it seems as if there is no info out there. Please help me out.

This was just brought up on another forum and also no answers so far.... does anyone know how it calculates this hand-by-hand? I have SnGPT people tell me they just set it to 0.5.

Well if Wiz says the edge is 0.06, then changing it to 0.5 is going to change things quite a bit.

anyone ?

TY