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04-01-2011 , 12:52 PM
The Odds Oracle is a general purpose tool for answering poker probability questions.
  • Support Hold'em, Omaha, Omaha-8, Stud, Stud-8, and Razz
  • Free version supports equity simulations (ala http://propokertools.com/simulations)
  • Paid version ($30 for now - free 2-week trial available on download page) includes multi-core support, "Ask the Oracle" question generator, "Common Questions", full PQL interpreter and more.

Odds Oracle Download Link
Odds Oracle Documentation Link

All-in Equity:




Ask the Oracle:



Common Questions:

04-19-2011 , 12:38 PM
ProPokerTools Odds Oracle 1.01 is out today.

http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

Major changes: Many new PQL functions, "Given that" clause in Ask the Oracle, 5-card Omaha support

Cheers,
bachfan
04-19-2011 , 06:33 PM
Program looks great

Some suggestions..

* allow all features to be used for 10 times (or whatever number).. so you can actually see how good they are and then decide to purchase them...

* When you click the popup button to create a hand range for a player. Make this look better. Its really looking cheap at the moment and its hard to select a good range.


further im probably going to purcahse it because it looks awesome! Sick job!
04-19-2011 , 06:52 PM
make it look like



instead of :

04-19-2011 , 09:58 PM
Thanks for your comments. I strongly believe in try-before-you-buy - on the license page there is a form where you can enter your email address and get a free trial key which unlocks everything for two weeks: http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle/license_key

I agree the range pickers are on the ugly side right now - rest assured they will be getting some love.

- bachfan
04-20-2011 , 11:09 PM
Can you add the function "How often does villain have at least top pair or better" in the oracle? Since it might be relevant to decide how often we can bluff villain of weaker holdings.
04-20-2011 , 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
Can you add the function "How often does villain have at least top pair or better" in the oracle? Since it might be relevant to decide how often we can bluff villain of weaker holdings.
Consider it added to the todo list.

- bachfan
04-22-2011 , 02:48 PM
I would love to see a feature added that show multiple results. For example:

I ask the oracle a question, i press start, the result appears.
Now I want to ask a second question, on the same hand... I click start, the old result goes away.

To get better results and learn more, I would love to have the results stay and only delete them when I press "Clear all".
04-22-2011 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
I would love to see a feature added that show multiple results. For example:

I ask the oracle a question, i press start, the result appears.
Now I want to ask a second question, on the same hand... I click start, the old result goes away.

To get better results and learn more, I would love to have the results stay and only delete them when I press "Clear all".
I agree. Keeping recent simulation results displayed and/or saving to disk is on the todo list.

- bachfan @ PPT
04-26-2011 , 06:48 PM
any idea when updates would appear?
04-26-2011 , 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
any idea when updates would appear?
Next release should be next week, with two new tools - a shove equity calculator and a reverse equity calculator.
04-27-2011 , 08:36 AM
Great! Thanks.

Did you also manage to implement the features I requested? A similair feature like flopzilla (but then set in better then 'x' handstrength would be good enough already,) would be extremely usefull.

And can you explain what you mean with a shove eq. cac. and a reverse eq. calc?

Your software is great and a must buy for every serious poker player. Im really surprised there is not more debate going on in this topic.
04-27-2011 , 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
Great! Thanks.

Did you also manage to implement the features I requested? A similair feature like flopzilla (but then set in better then 'x' handstrength would be good enough already,) would be extremely usefull.
It is definitely on the todo list. I'm very happy I have so many people using this tool, but the downside is that I can't implement all the feature requests as quickly as I would like.


Quote:
And can you explain what you mean with a shove eq. cac. and a reverse eq. calc?
The shove equity calculator answers the question "Pot has P chips. Shover shoves all-in for S chips with hand range X, opponent has hand range Y. It is C chips for opponent to call, and opponent will only call with range Z. How many chips do the Shover and Opponent stand to win on average?" People have been asking for different variations on this tool for a long, long time.

The reverse equity calculator (hold'em only atm) answers the question "Opponent has hand range X. I need P% equity to call. What hands can I call with?"


Quote:
Your software is great and a must buy for every serious poker player. Im really surprised there is not more debate going on in this topic.
Thank you! Keep the suggestions coming.

- bachfan @ ProPokerTools
04-27-2011 , 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachfan
It is definitely on the todo list. I'm very happy I have so many people using this tool, but the downside is that I can't implement all the feature requests as quickly as I would like.




The shove equity calculator answers the question "Pot has P chips. Shover shoves all-in for S chips with hand range X, opponent has hand range Y. It is C chips for opponent to call, and opponent will only call with range Z. How many chips do the Shover and Opponent stand to win on average?" People have been asking for different variations on this tool for a long, long time.

The reverse equity calculator (hold'em only atm) answers the question "Opponent has hand range X. I need P% equity to call. What hands can I call with?"




Thank you! Keep the suggestions coming.

- bachfan @ ProPokerTools
That would be the nuts! looking forward to it.
04-28-2011 , 05:48 PM
Odds Oracle 1.1 is out! (http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle) with two new tools:

Shove Equity Tool:



Reverse Equity tool:

05-03-2011 , 07:00 PM
I was playing with PPT and figured the tools misses something.

When we select AxJy and AxJx (sioted) it counts for all combo's -> 16.. Yes I think he will only shove those hands 50% of the time, the other times he will fold them.

Maybe we can add something to adjust that?
05-03-2011 , 08:44 PM
I agree. There are two enhancements here:

1) Support weighted ranges. On the todo list - will get done this year.
2) Allow for more than one "call range" line in the shove equity calculator. May or may not get done, depending on how 1) gets implemented (may not need it, in other words).

- bachfan

Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
I was playing with PPT and figured the tools misses something.

When we select AxJy and AxJx (sioted) it counts for all combo's -> 16.. Yes I think he will only shove those hands 50% of the time, the other times he will fold them.

Maybe we can add something to adjust that?
05-06-2011 , 04:00 PM
Can you make the "playable holdem hands" tool in 5% increasements instead of 10%?
05-06-2011 , 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rh300487
Can you make the "playable holdem hands" tool in 5% increasements instead of 10%?
Yes, thanks for pointing that out. I might just replace it with a text box instead. No fuss, no muss.
05-07-2011 , 10:50 AM
Am i doing something wrong here? Tried to do AAxx vs random 4 big cards preflop im omaha high.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
Powered by the Odds Oracle (http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle)
Player Equity Wins Hi Ties Hi
AA** 100,0000% 100,0000% 0,0000%
BBBB 0,0000% 0,0000% 0,0000%
05-07-2011 , 11:23 AM
I got it now, I have to go $B$B$B$B for 4random big cards. BBBB is any quads.
05-07-2011 , 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makemegood
I got it now, I have to go $B$B$B$B for 4random big cards. BBBB is any quads.
You'll see there is a pulldown menu for syntax on the web and the downloadable app. "Generic syntax" (default in the odds oracle) has the "$B" syntax, while "classic syntax" (default on the web) uses "B" for big cards. I tried to minimize the incompatibilities when introducing the new, more powerful syntax, but this is one small area that took a hit, unfortunately.

I will be switching over the website to use the new generic syntax by default relatively soon - I will also provide some warnings if I see any fishy looking syntax that people are probably using incorrectly.

- bachfan
05-08-2011 , 04:56 PM
cant you combine the two new tools?

i.e. use the shove equity tool but let PPT determine the range of hands we can shove profitably instead of only he option of inserting our own range of hands.
05-08-2011 , 05:44 PM
Another option, a lot of the times the PF ranges would be the same for tournaments.

Maybe you can add something like, save range as and then have a drop-down box where you can select a saved range so you save yourself a lot of time.

Make it then so it just charges the syntax in the input field and you can continue adjusting the range of to make it fit better for that type of player.

I hope sound clear enough, it makes a lot of sense to me but not sure it does to you :P..

Let me know, else I re-explain myself.
05-08-2011 , 07:18 PM
ill keep 'm coming ;-)

in the output, maybe you can shorten the result behind the ,

Shover NET chips: 9.5764

becomes

Shover NET chips: 9.58

Maybe even color it red or green depending on it being + or - EV
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