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Old 01-29-2011, 05:25 PM   #8371
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Re: PokerTracker v3.08 Official Release (60 day trial)

Then could you send us the affected sessions so that we can investigate?
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:09 PM   #8372
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Visual Basic c+++ R6002 floating point error, i get this everytime i launch my Poker Tracker importer, just before the hud pops up this comes and the hud does not launch, everything else works fine
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:08 PM   #8373
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What version of PT3 do you have?
If it isn't one of the current versions on our Download page please update.

Do you have any old hand history files in the hand history folders for the sites you're importing from? If so, try moving them and see if the error goes away (Tutorial: Preventing Duplicates). If it does, please compress and attach the files that you moved to a Support ticket so that we can investigate.

If you still have the error please enable logging and restart PT3 the reproduce the error and report your problem so that we can investigate further.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:41 PM   #8374
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Re: PokerTracker v3.08 Official Release (60 day trial)

Is there a way to filter to see how much you are winning/losing in 3-bet pots??

Also, is there a way to get your HUD to display your opponent's 3-bet/4-bet percentage, but only vs you, not his avg??

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Old 01-31-2011, 08:23 AM   #8375
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Then could you send us the affected sessions so that we can investigate?
i think you were right, a LOT of my sessions cross the 12am mark because of happy hour, so maybe thats it....the days i dont play crossing 12am, it seems to be fine and match.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:25 AM   #8376
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Is there a way to filter to see how much you are winning/losing in 3-bet pots??

Also, is there a way to get your HUD to display your opponent's 3-bet/4-bet percentage, but only vs you, not his avg??
Yes, if you use the Filters section and filter for Actions -> Preflop 3-bet OR Facing -> Preflop 3-bet, you'll see your data from all hands where either you or someone else 3-bet and you were involved one way or the other.

It's not possible to display statistics only vs you in the HUD at this point in time. It's a feature we are investigating for potential addition in the future but it puts a lot of stress on the query generation system so it is not yet clear whether it will or will not be feasible.

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i think you were right, a LOT of my sessions cross the 12am mark because of happy hour, so maybe thats it....the days i dont play crossing 12am, it seems to be fine and match.
For the record, you can change the time PT3 thinks your day starts at in the Settings section, and then you can avoid this problem entirely (just set the time for a time you're never playing, e.g. 4am).
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:44 PM   #8377
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Is there a way to add custom colour labels, similar to the ones you find on Pokerstars and Full Tilt. I see its possible on HEM, anyway to do it on PT3?

Basically, on the HUD, have a selectable label that has various colours to choose from. Possibly even the colour of the note symbol would work.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:54 PM   #8378
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Yes, if you use the Filters section and filter for Actions -> Preflop 3-bet OR Facing -> Preflop 3-bet, you'll see your data from all hands where either you or someone else 3-bet and you were involved one way or the other.

It's not possible to display statistics only vs you in the HUD at this point in time. It's a feature we are investigating for potential addition in the future but it puts a lot of stress on the query generation system so it is not yet clear whether it will or will not be feasible.


Ok, ty Kraada. Is there a way to check your opponents 3-bet/4-bet %age vs you using reports or am I mistaken??
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Old 02-01-2011, 07:29 AM   #8379
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VP$IP and PFR numbers different in PT3 and HEM


I have a VP$IP 12.36 and a PFR 9.92 in PT3 but the same hand sample is 12.6 and 10.1 in HEM.
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Are the numbers of hands identical? Can you pinpoint any individual hand or session where the numbers differ? If we could narrow down what is going on it would help considerably. We haven't had any complaints about VP$IP or PFR for as far back as I can remember.
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These are the screen shots.

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I notice there's a large discrepancy from the big blind - if you filter to BB hands only can we narrow it down to a more manageable size of hands? If you pick a specific day can we get it down to a few hundred hands where we have a discrepancy?
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I found the one day this month with only a few hands played and had 39 BB hands. When I filtered for action PFR and raise, both showed the same 4 hands. Without the raise filter the PFRs where 10.26% PT3 and 12.1% HEM this seems to show a HEM error in the PFR as 10.26% of 39 is 4.0014.
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I'm glad to hear our stats are working out accurately

You'll need to contact HEM to get their issue resolved, of course.

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From the HM developers:

VPIP and PFR only include hands where you could have made an action. When it is folded to you in the big blind this would not count towards VPIP or PFR in Holdem Manager. For example, if you play 10 hands of HU poker and out of the 5 times you were the big blind it was folded to you 3 times and the other 7 hands you VPIP'ed 5 times, then Holdem Manager would calculate VPIP as 5 out of 7 = 71%, not 5 out of 10 for 50%. That would be misleading, given you had no chance to play in those 3 hands.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:36 AM   #8380
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From the HM developers:

VPIP and PFR only include hands where you could have made an action. When it is folded to you in the big blind this would not count towards VPIP or PFR in Holdem Manager. For example, if you play 10 hands of HU poker and out of the 5 times you were the big blind it was folded to you 3 times and the other 7 hands you VPIP'ed 5 times, then Holdem Manager would calculate VPIP as 5 out of 7 = 71%, not 5 out of 10 for 50%. That would be misleading, given you had no chance to play in those 3 hands.
Why would HEM developers decide to change established and well studied statistics? VPIP and PFR have been defined for 10 years and are widely accepted by the community. These newly defined HEM stats are not VPIP nor PFR and are something entirely new.

By changing them, you are causing confusion among the community and ruining standards that have already been defined and accepted. There is no doubt that improvements can be made but they should come as a newly defined statistic and not as a change to the existing standard.

If you are going to attempt to change a statistic that has been defined for such a long period of time then this should be clearly documented so that it does not cause confusion within the poker community.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:05 AM   #8381
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Is there a way to add custom colour labels, similar to the ones you find on Pokerstars and Full Tilt. I see its possible on HEM, anyway to do it on PT3?

Basically, on the HUD, have a selectable label that has various colours to choose from. Possibly even the colour of the note symbol would work.
That's not possible at this point in time, but functionality like this is planned.

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Ok, ty Kraada. Is there a way to check your opponents 3-bet/4-bet %age vs you using reports or am I mistaken??
Yes this can be done, though you'll need to define a little more for me what you mean by 'vs you' - do you mean hands you were dealt in and still were yet to act or hands where you'd made one of the raises?
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:23 AM   #8382
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Why is the HUD forgetful ? I play 6max cash NL games. I have UB configured to 6max and my default seat in the import configuration bit on PT3. I would say around 80% of the time when I join a table, my HUD is all wrong, with the labels all in the wrong place. Like 1-2 seats off. So I move them all around, and click "save layout". Another table I join and same **** happens. It is becoming VERY annoying!
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:33 PM   #8383
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Please take a look at the Tutorial: Preferred Seating.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:26 PM   #8384
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fozzy71, to piggy back on Josh's post. Why would you not create new statistics instead of attempting to redefine 10 year (or older) stats? I'm very interested in hearing the logic of this choice.

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Old 02-01-2011, 04:32 PM   #8385
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Re: PokerTracker v3.08 Official Release (60 day trial)

Seems like someone's misinterpreting what the other is saying, IMO.

I read what HEM support says as the standard way VPIP/PFR are calculated, but there's some weird language usage in the last part that makes it seem to be something different.

How I read it at least...

Not sure why the guy's having differences in his VPIP though so maybe I misunderstood something. Is that not how PS calcs VPIP/PFR?

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I found the one day this month with only a few hands played and had 39 BB hands. When I filtered for action PFR and raise, both showed the same 4 hands. Without the raise filter the PFRs where 10.26% PT3 and 12.1% HEM this seems to show a HEM error in the PFR as 10.26% of 39 is 4.0014.
Is this seriously how PT3 calcs it? Instances/hands and not instances/opportunities? My head's asploding. Really?

2nd Edit: Please tell me there's not this same logic differential between the two when it comes to 3-betting...

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