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12-18-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Melchor
is there a way on the hh replayer to show hero stats but not lifetime, rather from the time of the filter?

I have it at hud stas value at time of hand fwiw

tyty
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker


In the HUD select Options, then enable HUD Stat Values At Time Of Hand for the rest of the table, and deselect Show Hero Lifetime Stats.

- TT
thx but I have it, more talking about a 3rd option, none of the two, when I use hut stats value at time of hand, only show table stats at the time, I wanted to review my stats for a las 3 months, 5 or w/e
tyty
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12-18-2014 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Melchor
thx but I have it, more talking about a 3rd option, none of the two, when I use hut stats value at time of hand, only show table stats at the time, I wanted to review my stats for a las 3 months, 5 or w/e
tyty
That is not an option in the HUD, but you can review your stats from any period of time in reports.

- TT
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12-18-2014 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
You made two mistakes.

1) First Raiser includes hands where there were limpers, and the Small Blind was the first raiser - instead use Lead Aggressor.

2) Preflop bet sizing as you already know, this will solve your problem:

(Position of Lead Aggressor Position of Selected Exactly 9) AND (Sizes Calculated in Big Blinds Preflop Action Faced With Size 2Bet Preflop Between 2.01 and 1000)

Then of course use the Hand Range Visualizer to compare situations where you as the Hero 3Bet or called Preflop 2Bet by selecting those heat map statistics in the left hand frame of the report. We also recommend comparing RANGE and VALUE to review your balance.

- TT
i m sorry but i cant find the 2nd filter, i assume this is the wrong tab
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12-18-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by justDgmt
i m sorry but i cant find the 2nd filter, i assume this is the wrong tab
That is the right page, you want to filter for the size that the Active Player is FACING, so choose 2Bet Size in Big Blinds.
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12-18-2014 , 04:45 PM
what am i missing?

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12-18-2014 , 04:55 PM
Apologies for the confusion the filters you want are in Actions & Opportunities -> Preflop -> Actions Encountered With Sizes. This is a different filter area from Preflop Bet Sizing (it's one further down) and that will contain the filters you want.

-Kraada
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12-18-2014 , 05:18 PM
got it, thx
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12-19-2014 , 06:55 AM
On Poker Tracker, I have recently signed up to Table Tracker, however on the user guide it says that a high 'AVG score' means it's a good table. Does this mean that it's a good table to sit at because it's full of fish that will throw their money at the table, or does it mean that it's a good table in terms of its full of good players that play a solid game?

Help?
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12-19-2014 , 09:28 AM
The former - it's a good table to sit at because it's not filled with tougher players.

-Kraada

Last edited by PokerTracker; 12-19-2014 at 12:30 PM.
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12-19-2014 , 02:33 PM
Importing hands into a new database for the first time (from disk, my hm2 archive) and it's taking forever, there are like 30k 6m hypers to import and it's been like 3 hours and I've done 5k

What do?
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12-19-2014 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by daddyrnac
Importing hands into a new database for the first time (from disk, my hm2 archive) and it's taking forever, there are like 30k 6m hypers to import and it's been like 3 hours and I've done 5k

What do?
Do nothing, just let PokerTracker 4 do it's job. Importing from an existing large database takes a LOT of time, but this won't affect you once you start playing. Tournaments take more time than cash games due to the precision of All-in equity calculations.

- TT
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12-22-2014 , 10:19 AM
Is Cnet adjusted at all accurate for 18 man SNG's ? I was told it isn't. Does it have any value at all or is it completely useless ?

BTW I love the cardrunners replayer , by far the best imo.
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12-22-2014 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mugenjin
Is Cnet adjusted at all accurate for 18 man SNG's ? I was told it isn't. Does it have any value at all or is it completely useless ?
The accuracy of Net Adjusted Winnings depends on the data the site provides. If the site provides the total prize pool and the total number of players in the prize pool, and PokerTracker can determine the payout structure - then it is 100% accurate. Its impossible to say all 18 man SNGs are accurate - some 18 man SNGs may not have the data described, in these situations we may not be able to measure Net Adjusted Winnings; in all cases where it can be measured then it is accurate.

BUT we should be clear that the person who told you it is inaccurate may have actually meant to tell you that Net Adjusted Winnings is only a measurement of expectation, it is not a measurement of luck or skill, and therefore you should not use this data unless you understand the esoteric concept of expectation. Measuring expectation is very helpful for statisticians, but the average player could safely ignore Net Adjusted Winnings data because the concept of expectation is not easily understood by those without a statistics background.

For a basic explaination, please review this guide: https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...-equity-graphs

Here is an accounting of how Net Adjusted Winnings is calculated in a recent explanation we posted, as you can see this is a very complex topic but the math used to calculate Net Adjusted Winnings is accurate. : http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9787

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BTW I love the cardrunners replayer , by far the best imo.
The CardRunners Replayer is not part of the PokerTracker team's offerings - that is created by CardRunners. We agree its a very nice replayer if you want to post your hand using a replayer on in a forum with controls. If you want to post your hand in Facebook, Twitter, or anywhere that accepts video then we recommend that you use the PokerTracker video export tools contained within the replayer.

- TT
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12-23-2014 , 06:37 AM
Hey, I'm on holiday atm using my laptop.
Would exporting hands from the laptop's database be exactly equivalent to manually importing the (original) hands later on my desktop PC?
Do I get to keep hand-specific notes and tags if I import hands this way?
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12-23-2014 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Hey, I'm on holiday atm using my laptop.
Would exporting hands from the laptop's database be exactly equivalent to manually importing the (original) hands later on my desktop PC?
Do I get to keep hand-specific notes and tags if I import hands this way?
Hands that are exported from PT4 do not include your notes. But you can export your notes separately, to do this select Database > Notes and follow the easy to understand interface.

- TT
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12-25-2014 , 04:48 PM
Hello, When I import hand histories from old databases to my new pc I got a lot of errors saying : Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #1)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #2)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #3)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #4

what can this be? Did I export the hh incorrectly or what? after it finishes, it appears to be fine but i have no idea if thats the case or not. any help? thx
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12-25-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLingIT
Hello, When I import hand histories from old databases to my new pc I got a lot of errors saying : Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #1)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #2)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #3)
08:30:42 pm: Warning: PokerStars: Unrecognized game type: (Line #4

what can this be? Did I export the hh incorrectly or what? after it finishes, it appears to be fine but i have no idea if thats the case or not. any help? thx
It means the game you played is not supported by PokerTracker. For example if you played Draw games or Stud Games then this message will appear. You can safely ignore this error message, PokerTracker 4 is working properly if you see this message when an unsupported game type is detected.
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12-26-2014 , 11:24 AM
Okay.. thanks!

Other thing, im having a hard time trying to do this:

I am on the holdem visualizer, and want to set this filter:

I am hero and I am on BB, and I raise 3b the SB open. For some reason I can't do this, as I only see the steal option which also has all the BTN opens, as well as the SB.
How can I do this??
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12-26-2014 , 11:37 AM
Hi,

I'm using PT4 for a while now and I like it a lot but a common problem is the lack of stats that PT4 has compared with HM2. Many useful stats are not introduced in the PT4 and that's a big problem in my opinion. A bigger problem is that every time I ask for a stat in the pokertracker forums I instantly get a reply pointing me to a guide so I can build that particular stat.
Now, why is that a problem? you may ask. It is a very big problem because I'm a poker player not a programmer and it's very difficult for me (and I guess for a lot of other poker players out there) to build a stat without any knowledge of programming, it's time consuming and also, at the end, I'm not entirely sure my result is the correct stat.
So, please, do something about this as it's a major problem which could be solved easely by you, as I'm sure you can spare one programmer from your team to create the stats people require with very little effort compared to what I, or someone else in my position, would have to work to get a certain stat done correctly. If you want you can even make me pay for a stat because I'm sure it would be more +EV for me to grind a few days and pay for a stat rather than squeeze my brains trying to build one.
As I said in the beginning I like PT4 and it has some advantage over HM2 but the lack of many useful stats may slowly incline the balance in favor of HM2, as that's the reason many of my friends already switched to HM2.

Thank you
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12-26-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Coacaza
Hi,

I'm using PT4 for a while now and I like it a lot but a common problem is the lack of stats that PT4 has compared with HM2. Many useful stats are not introduced in the PT4 and that's a big problem in my opinion. A bigger problem is that every time I ask for a stat in the pokertracker forums I instantly get a reply pointing me to a guide so I can build that particular stat.
Now, why is that a problem? you may ask. It is a very big problem because I'm a poker player not a programmer and it's very difficult for me (and I guess for a lot of other poker players out there) to build a stat without any knowledge of programming, it's time consuming and also, at the end, I'm not entirely sure my result is the correct stat.
So, please, do something about this as it's a major problem which could be solved easely by you, as I'm sure you can spare one programmer from your team to create the stats people require with very little effort compared to what I, or someone else in my position, would have to work to get a certain stat done correctly. If you want you can even make me pay for a stat because I'm sure it would be more +EV for me to grind a few days and pay for a stat rather than squeeze my brains trying to build one.
As I said in the beginning I like PT4 and it has some advantage over HM2 but the lack of many useful stats may slowly incline the balance in favor of HM2, as that's the reason many of my friends already switched to HM2.

Thank you
1) Our parent company owns and develops both PokerTracker 4 and Holdem Manager 2. I can assure you that if there is a stat in HM2, then there is an equivalent stat available in PT4. Perhaps you just don't know where to look? The names are not always the same, HM2 uses a longer naming nomenclature than PT4 does - for example in PT4 Bet when Checked To is called Float in PT4. If you tell us what stat you are looking for, our team can guide you.

2) Our Custom Stats guide can show you how to alter stats, but it does not teach you how to create your own custom stats from scratch - that would require some fairly basic knowledge of SQL expression programing. So for example if a custom stat already exists and you want a tiny change to it that virtually anyone can perform after reading the guide - then we point to the guide; that is our policy and the correct response in those situations. We Also have a forum which discusses stat building, any stats that are requested that we believe would be useful for the entire community are built for our users - for free - and then shared within the entire community. We share this stat inside the PokerTracker Download Warehouse, which houses hundreds of freely customisable and free to download public domain stats - most of which were requested by our users and created as a public service by our staff.

In closing, just tell us what your looking for and we will point you in the right direction. If you want something obscure and not valuable for the entire community, then we will not contribute - but if it is valuable for al and the stat doesn't exist (which is fairly unlikely at this stage) then we will make it for the entire community to share.

- TT

Last edited by PokerTracker; 12-26-2014 at 02:01 PM.
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12-26-2014 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLingIT
Okay.. thanks!

Other thing, im having a hard time trying to do this:

I am on the holdem visualizer, and want to set this filter:

I am hero and I am on BB, and I raise 3b the SB open. For some reason I can't do this, as I only see the steal option which also has all the BTN opens, as well as the SB.
How can I do this??
In the Holdem Hand Visualizer select the Preflop 3Bet stat, and choose the position of BB by deselecting all other positions.

Then click the More Filters... button and select Hand Details > Player Position - Preflop > Position of Lead Aggressor (ON) Exactly 9. Select Add to Filter, and then Save & Apply Filters.

- TT
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12-26-2014 , 03:02 PM
tvym !! btw, is there anywhere where i can download filters ? thanks
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12-26-2014 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
just tell us what your looking for and we will point you in the right direction. .

- TT
Just some stats that come to my mind right now:
-vs hero stats
-bet Turn/River after raised Flop Cbet
-bet River after raised Turn Cbet
-4bet (only, not +) after 3bet preflop
-fold to float/fold to probe bet in 3bet pot only (many other stats for 3bet pots only)
-4bet range (not percentage)
These 3bet stats may seem irrelevant for someone who plays 10k hands a month but for a player like me who plays close to 100k a month they are important.
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12-27-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLingIT
tvym !! btw, is there anywhere where i can download filters ? thanks
The PokerTracker Download Warehouse : https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/quick-filters

- TT
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12-27-2014 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Coacaza
Just some stats that come to my mind right now:
-vs hero stats
Vs Hero stats are not officially supported in PT4. There have been some third party hacks released from numerous sources - we suggest you turn there instead. Why? We don't recommend using vs hero stats, they are statistically irrelevant. https://www.pokertracker.com/blog/20...lay-against-me

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-bet Turn/River after raised Flop Cbet
-bet River after raised Turn Cbet
Both are already available in the Download Warehouse (I updated River after raised Turn Cbet this morning to fix a typo)

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-4bet (only, not +) after 3bet preflop
Numerous 4Bet stats without the "+" in the download warehouse, such as 4Bet Preflop IP & OOP, and 4Bet Preflop After Raising. I assume you made a typo here, because it's impossible to 3Bet and then 4Bet.. that player must 2Bet, not 3Bet.

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-fold to float/fold to probe bet in 3bet pot only (many other stats for 3bet pots only)
Continuation Float Stat Package in the Download Warehouse

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-4bet range (not percentage)
This is not a recommended stat because a stat cannot actually measure a range unless it is used for measuring the hero's results only. With that said, you can also get this stat in the Download Warehouse, its called 4bet range (RFI * 4Bet).

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These 3bet stats may seem irrelevant for someone who plays 10k hands a month but for a player like me who plays close to 100k a month they are important.
We have a LOT of users, quite a few of which play more than 100k hands a month. With the exception of the Vs Hero which we do not officially support, each of these stats already exist and are requested quite frequently. All of our staff members know where to find each of these stats when requested, we advise users how to get rare stats on an almost daily basis - perhaps our staff members were trying to tell you to look in the download warehouse to get these stats, but you misunderstood their instructions to assume incorrectly that you were being told to make these commonly requested stats yourself? Or perhaps you only asked about Vs Hero stats in the past, and never asked about the others?

The PokerTracker 4 Download Warehouse: https://www.pokertracker.com/custom/stats

PS: The Download Warehouse exists because not all players need each stat. We were able to get the best performance possible in PT4 by including only the most commonly requested and used stats, more obscure stats are instead kept in the Download Warehouse to be imported upon demand. The more stats used, the greater the possibility that PT4's performance could be affected on any given user's desktop; hence we take the pragmatic approach of keeping a lean & mean PT4 base installation with downloadable stats which you can choose if you are a more advanced user.

- TT
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