Ok, I got it! Since you guys don't want to make multiple popups per table group, what about this...

Make an option for the table groups to be sticky to each other so you can align them and they stay exactly aligned when resizing. (I assume that the normal resizing placement algorithms aren't exact enough to touch table groups together and have them stay in exact relative locations when resizing)

We have plans post-release for making the HUD editor even more user friendly, I'll be sure your suggestion is discussed. Your suggestion cannot work using our current methodology due to the vast number of sites we equally support, but we have an idea we can explore that might be possible after future development plans are implemented. Thanx!

- TT

Would I be right in assuming that enabling 'current cash limit only' refers to a numeric value, say 25/50, rather than game type, FL/NL/etc?. Also, how does this effect tourney players when trying to narrow data for HUD display? Is PT4 limited to blind level filtering for tourney HUDs?

btw, I like the profile editor... nice approach.

Current Cash Limit Only is the numeric value, game type and table size (so 25/50 FL 6-max, say). The tournament option is currently by blind level - further options are being discussed but I don't know what options will be available yet.

--WhiteRider

cant wait for the new version of PT! Hope it wont eat away all the RAM!

How is the hand history importing speed when manually importing large amounts of hands? Does the database require frequent housekeeping?

Do I need to wait till the release? This has been requested for quite long.
It's fine if you only play .50/1 NL and .50/1 FL for example, but if you play .5/1 to 5/10 NL and 3/6 to 30/60 FL, I certainly wouldn't like to limit my hud data to current level only. Nor do I want to see someone's FL data interfere with their NL data in the hud. This gets even more pronounced if you play PLO and FLO8 on several levels.

So if not automatic, please add "current game type only" to the hud, that's all that matters.

Also, if not done yet, please add one-click filters for NL/PL/FL/HI/HILO to the general filtering section so there's no need to go through possible dozens of different levels to be able to filter for PLO high only.

When you refer to 6-max, do you mean that regardless of the number of players?
What happens when someone folds or raises UTG 10 handed, will that count towards his statistics in 6-max UTG? Or if they raise 6-max HJ (MP), will that show up in his 10-max MP stats?


Here's the table I was hoping there's no longer need to manually tweak in the DB.

http://www.pokertracker.com/forums/v...osition#p92496

We still have the Player Ranges section in the Hud Configuration - if you set that up you can configure it so that you never see data from 6 handed play when playing 10 handed or vice versa, then you would never see that data combined on a table.

- Kraada

During the occasional full ring games that pop up, I still want to use the info I have from the players from 6-max play. Their button play in unopened pot is the same (or close enough for government work), they're just as likely to CR flop hu whether the table started 4 or 10 handed.

That filter is unfortunately unusable in games where the action often starts around some key players, whether they decided to sit in a 6-max or 10-max table.

agree with the above - the option to group 6max and full ring together would be useful. ideally, the player could also specify groups of limits that can stick together if they wish... that might be asking too much, but would be useful.

point 2:
will the new version be able to have hud stats for either actions vs hero, or actions vs player groups (ie using player_icon or similar).

When will you release the beta?

Is it possible to edit the pop-up that appears when you mouse over a stat in hud? When I go over VPIP I would like to see positional VPIP for example, or if I go over cbet I would like to see all cbet related stats (fold call raise, flop, turn, etc).
(I am talking about pop-up that appears when you dont click on a stat)

The release date hasn't been finalized yet - we will not release PT4 until it is ready. Rest assured we will let you all know!


I do not anticipate configurable tooltips being added in the short-term. It may be considered for the future but I'm not aware of any plans in that direction.


--WhiteRider

While we all would like it pretty soon, it's way better have a working software instead a full buggy one (like HM2) keep on working guys

What about this alternative, have an option to force the pop-up to show on mouseover (after xx (mili)seconds) instead of default uneditable tooltip? If we can specify pop-ups for each stat this would basically achieve the same thing as configurable tooltips without having to implement another editor for the tooltips.

Please consider this, reducing the need for multiple mouse clicks when multitabling cant be bad.

If you're still open for suggestions, please add an automatic backup option with a configurable timeframe. If it's necessary to stop normal PT operation during the backup, it would obviously be necessary to ask for user permission to stop autoimport and hud and stuff... but keep asking daily, don't give up ("You seem to have autoimport on but there haven't been any hands imported in an hour, how about backing up your database now?").
Yeah you guessed right what just happened.

I want to ask for this for Christmas, Is it coming out before January?

No release date for the public Beta version has been announced yet. I'm pretty certain the commercial version will not be on sale before Christmas, but if you buy (or have bought for you) PT3 now you will get PT4 for free when it is released.

--WhiteRider

Hi!
If I get PT3 through one of your get it free promotions on your site, I also get PT4 for free when it comes out?

Re: popups on stats - we have listened, and we are trying some alternative ideas. This is why we put out the preview videos, it helps us to get feedback to see if we need to alter our dev plans in any way. Thanks for all the input!



We expect to have a beta announcement in the coming week. before we get 100 posts saying "ah man, I thought today would be the release date for the beta", this does not mean the beta will be available in a week - it only means we will be making an announcement about the beta time frame. Hang on tight - almost there!!!!!!


We prefer to not discuss sales here as per the wishes of the Two Plus Two management, but the answer is yes.

didn't hear a response on this. for example, how often does button call vs a player marked as a fish (or vs hero). can't make HUD stats for this in PT3. will PT4 change this?

We have responded to the question of Vs Hero stats a few times already, and an interview/review of PT4 is coming out this week which will explain our plans on this topic. Keep in mind we will be adding auto-tagging and NoteTracker in PT4, our automated note taking system, some of your request falls under these realms.

I think the cleanest way to do this is to have each stat have a popup value that is optional - it would override the popup value for the table group. When you click, you check what stat was clicked and display the appropriate popup.

Do all the popups show up together as tabs? It would be cool if each stat defaulted to different tabs but you could get to the other popups without closing the current one (I think this is how it already works, but I can't remember)

I know I keep asking about this. I apologize if I'm beating a dead horse.

only because this is a funny picture -



PS: we wont be disclosing our solution until the beta is released, some things we got to keep under wraps! VERY soon!