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Old 08-20-2016, 02:20 PM   #151
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So I am left with all suited heart hands? And I then just go through and individually click on each hand i want to remove from the range?
No. The context of all this is your original range. You are left with all suited heart hands that were in your original range. There's no need to go through the additional long/manual step "I then just go through and individually click on each hand i want to remove from the range".

I suggest actually doing the steps I gave in the program and see what happens.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:07 AM   #152
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No. The context of all this is your original range. You are left with all suited heart hands that were in your original range. There's no need to go through the additional long/manual step "I then just go through and individually click on each hand i want to remove from the range".

I suggest actually doing the steps I gave in the program and see what happens.
I'll try it again. I honestly tried it before and had no luck. I'll try it again when I finish a hand I'm on now.

On another note, I think it would be really handy to be able to remove certain hands, such as flush draws.
For example, if you know a guy is never checking back a set, or a flush draw on the flop, then it would be nice to be able to remove these hands with a click, on the turn.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:35 AM   #153
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The suits advice worked for me this time. Thanks.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:44 AM   #154
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I have another idea that would save time. If you could copy and paste the stats in the middle. This would save time when transcribing stats into a word document for analysis.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:32 PM   #155
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The suits advice worked for me this time. Thanks.
You're welcome.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:42 PM   #156
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I'll try it again. I honestly tried it before and had no luck. I'll try it again when I finish a hand I'm on now.

On another note, I think it would be really handy to be able to remove certain hands, such as flush draws.
For example, if you know a guy is never checking back a set, or a flush draw on the flop, then it would be nice to be able to remove these hands with a click, on the turn.
Have you seen the filter hand range feature yet?
It does what you want to do, but in the opposite direction i.e. you can filter a range on hand types / stats that you want to keep in villain's range. So on the flop filter his range based on what hand types / stats you think he's continuing with. Then on the turn filter his range again. Along the way I'd save the intermediate ranges into the #1 .. #35 quick-saved hand ranges slots to save your work and so you can go back and forth if you want.

In addition to the tutorial link above there's help info. on this feature in the program; click the "?" button under the Filter button.

The suggestion I gave a few posts ago stands; it would be good to look over the tutorial and video to get a high level picture of what the program can do.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:06 PM   #157
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I have another idea that would save time. If you could copy and paste the stats in the middle. This would save time when transcribing stats into a word document for analysis.
This is an OK suggestion but I'll punt it because I think we can live without it. You can just take a screenshot of the program's window using the Preview app, or of just the Stats section, then resize/copy/paste the screenshot into TextEdit/Word/etc. I've seen several pros/coaches post screenshots of this program online with hand analysis. A screenshot gives a better picture of the scenario anyway vs. just raw stats text, e.g. shows the range pictorially and you can even show the cells' combo counts etc.

In addition to screenshots you can also copy/paste the scenario's text ("Txt" button at the top of the app's window) and include it in offline documents. This is useful for capturing the entire state of the scenario for importing back into the app later or for sending to friends etc.
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:55 PM   #158
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Is there an undo button?
I keep losing ranges when I click a card for the flop but am still on a player's hand range.
An fyi that update V.9.3.1 to the Mac-Expert version went live today with an "Undo/Redo Hand Range Edit (1 level)" feature (under the "Edit" menu). And with some other features like zoom app's window to max-size. The update's release notes has the full details.

Thanks for this suggestion.

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Old 11-18-2016, 03:11 PM   #159
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Hey rj999,

First, nice software ! The best MAC available Poker Software of its kind.

It could be really helpful if we could filter or modify(remove hands) hand ranges from the heat map view.

When i do analysis on my range, i want to see which part have EQ% over 50% so i flip over the Heat map, than if i want to remove hands i got to flip back on the hand matrix and when i remove hands i got to calculate again.

If we could remove hands directly from the heat map it would be a very nice add on.
(Moving the above quoted post here into this app's Mac thread from this app's iOS thread.)

Thanks for compliments on the app. It's going to get even better. I'm just about done with a big new feature, a better/more flexible hand range weighting mechanism, should go live within a couple of weeks.

Your suggested feature, filter a hand range based on cells' Equity's, sounds pretty reasonable and I'm adding it to my to-do. But I do have some reservations on it (below) so will give it some background thinking time first.

The first reservation is just UI and is prob. solvable. Currently the hand range section consists of 3 views: RangeEditor, HeatMap, DistributionGraph. You can only edit the range in the RangeEditor, and I like this strict separation of function between these 3 views. If we allow editing of the range on a cell by cell basis in the other two views e.g. HeatMap that complicates/confuses the organization of these 3 views. And every time an edit/change is made to the range, no matter from where, that invalidates the entire calculation results, o.w. you'd be looking at an inconsistent overall picture. Maybe we can put the new "filter on Equity" button/feature in the RangeEditor view to avoid this, and have it operate on all the cells of the range at once.

My second reservation is the general high-level usage of this suggested feature. The Mac-Expert version currently has a filter range feature (section in tutorial), the "Filter" button in the RangeEditor, but it filters the range based on hand types (that you select/turn-on in the Stats view using the stats' checkbox buttons).

E.g. if you think villain is continuing with any made hand TopPair or better or any flush draw or any open ender, then you can select/turn-on these stats and only these stats and filter on them. I think this is a better way to filter/narrow-down a range than filtering on cells' Equity because many times the hands that villain (or you) will be continuing with will have pretty low equity, e.g. a flush draw or an open ender. Sometimes we'll want to include gutshots in the continue range, which have even lower equity, as they're sometimes good hands to float a flop bet with esp. in position and if we're deep stacked. A filter operation that's based just on Equity won't be able to make the distinction between "a good draw with low equity" and "basically no-hand with the same low equity".

So long story short, I also felt that a filter range operation would be great to have in this program, but went in favor of filter on hand types instead (or at least first). But I'll think about your suggestion filter on Equity in the background (but won't guarantee it yet).
Thanks for writing in and suggesting.
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Old 11-18-2016, 06:28 PM   #160
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... continued ...

Some other options:

1) Take a screenshot of the heat map and use it as a reference as you edit the range.

2) (trickier) Launch a second instance of the app. Make your range edits in one instance (the "main" instance) and use the second "temp" instance just to look at the heat map i.e. as read-only and calc-only. To load the entire scenario into the second instance, copy the scenario's text and do File menu -> Import Scenario.

I gave instructions for both 1) and 2) in post #140 in this thread (post).

Be careful if you do 2). Both app instances will write their app state into the same place on disk when they're quit/closed, so close your temp instance as soon as you're done with it, leaving only your main instance open so that it's closed last.
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... continued ...

Some other options:

1) Take a screenshot of the heat map and use it as a reference as you edit the range.

2) (trickier) Launch a second instance of the app. Make your range edits in one instance (the "main" instance) and use the second "temp" instance just to look at the heat map i.e. as read-only and calc-only. To load the entire scenario into the second instance, copy the scenario's text and do File menu -> Import Scenario.

I gave instructions for both 1) and 2) in post #140 in this thread (post).

Be careful if you do 2). Both app instances will write their app state into the same place on disk when they're quit/closed, so close your temp instance as soon as you're done with it, leaving only your main instance open so that it's closed last.
Great suggestions, number 2 will perfectly do the job.

Thanks !
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:40 AM   #162
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A thing that could be very interesting to have is the ability to combine results with our range on different flops.

Let's say i give player #1 a 20% open raise range and player #2 a 20% calling range.

Now i put a flop of 2s 2h Jc and calculate our equity going to the Turn.

hop over to heat map and see which part of my range got more than 50% equity.

Pretty simple. But it could be interesting if i could save those results, put a different flop, run the calculation than see the average equity on both flops with my range. The software would add equity of my range on both flops and divide by 2(number of flops used).

So i could run my range vs. all disconnected flops for example and see which part of it is doing fine with those specific kind of flops.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:56 AM   #163
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Hey I just bought the Mac Expert version app and looking for some help please.

1) How can i reduce the number of montecarlo simulations? I see in the tutorial it says "menu--->dead cards, etc..." where is this "menu" button I cant find it anywhere. My computer is slow and takes forever to calculate.

2) Can I filter my ranges down by clicking and removing once I have the ball rolling? For example, I put in my BTN open/RFI range. Then I put in the flop. Then I click calculate. At this point I want to start eliminating hands that I would bet like TPTK, two pair etc as value and some draws or blocker hands as bluffs. I need to eliminate all those hands I bet flop with so I have an accurate turn range for the times where the flop action goes check/check. Can I accompish this easily by just clicking on the combos and selecting and "remove" or "delete" or something like that OR do I have to start all over and create a new range from the beginning and restart the sim?

Sorry for so much text and thanks a ton for your help!
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Hey I just bought the Mac Expert version app and looking for some help please.

1) How can i reduce the number of montecarlo simulations? I see in the tutorial it says "menu--->dead cards, etc..." where is this "menu" button I cant find it anywhere. My computer is slow and takes forever to calculate.

2) Can I filter my ranges down by clicking and removing once I have the ball rolling? For example, I put in my BTN open/RFI range. Then I put in the flop. Then I click calculate. At this point I want to start eliminating hands that I would bet like TPTK, two pair etc as value and some draws or blocker hands as bluffs. I need to eliminate all those hands I bet flop with so I have an accurate turn range for the times where the flop action goes check/check. Can I accompish this easily by just clicking on the combos and selecting and "remove" or "delete" or something like that OR do I have to start all over and create a new range from the beginning and restart the sim?

Sorry for so much text and thanks a ton for your help!
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Re. 1) - The Mac-Expert version doesn't have a "Menu" button; just click the "Stop" button after a few seconds or after 1 or 2 or 3 million Monte Carlo trials. The tutorial is for all the versions of this app, iOS, Android, and Mac. It does say "(iOS and Android versions ..." for the "Menu" button, and also says "Mac version doesn't need this setting".

However I have an app update pretty much ready (plan to submit this week) that will add an "Auto-Stop" setting to the Mac-Expert version. You'll be able to enter the number of seconds after which to stop the calculation automatically, so that it doesn't run forever on you.

Re. 2) - Yes, can filter a range down, in a couple of ways.

First, a manual way - To start I'd save the starting preflop range into one of the 35 quick-saved ranges slots say slot #1 (using the quick-save pulldown button at the top-right part of RangeEditor view). Now you're ready to eliminate some hands/cells from the range as you go to the turn. No need to start all over, just click in the big 13x13 hand range grid on the already-added hands/cells that you want to remove from the range; a click behaves as a toggle on the cells i.e. add/remove (fastest way to add/remove). When you're done removing cells, I'd save the smaller filtered range into say slot #2. Etc. for more range narrowings. The saving into the 35 slots is so that you don't lose your work and can go back and forth and compare.

Second, an automatic way - the program has an automatic filter range feature (tutorial section), that I've talked about many times on this thread.

Welcome to PokerCruncher! This program has many features, I'd give it some time to explore and absorb, and the tutorial & videos webpage would be a good place to start.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:57 PM   #165
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A thing that could be very interesting to have is the ability to combine results with our range on different flops.

Let's say i give player #1 a 20% open raise range and player #2 a 20% calling range.

Now i put a flop of 2s 2h Jc and calculate our equity going to the Turn.

hop over to heat map and see which part of my range got more than 50% equity.

Pretty simple. But it could be interesting if i could save those results, put a different flop, run the calculation than see the average equity on both flops with my range. The software would add equity of my range on both flops and divide by 2(number of flops used).

So i could run my range vs. all disconnected flops for example and see which part of it is doing fine with those specific kind of flops.
Yes that would be an interesting study but I don't think this is an "atomic" / general-purpose enough feature to add, at least yet, or if ever.

You could do this currently by entering the data in a spreadsheet app, one row per calc run, and have the spreadsheet app average-up the values you're interested in.

There are many types of statistical studies like this that one may want to do, e.g. maybe with the villains' cards varying not the flop, and I think for now doing this offline yourself in a spreadsheet app is the way to go, because I'd still like to add more general-purpose features to the program first.

Re. "run my range vs. all disconnected flops" - a feature that might help is the "Rnd" button. Click on a flop card to select the flop. A small pulldown button appears to the right of the "Rnd" button which lets you generate various kinds of random flops (broadway, medium, low, suited, paired). The "Rnd" button then remembers what you generated last.

If you want to run your range against a bunch of purely random flops, that's what the program is built to do out of the box, just leave all the flop cards blank/empty. Then when you calculate, the Monte Carlo sim will generate millions of random flops and compile / average-up the results of course.

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Old 11-23-2016, 07:15 PM   #166
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Great program! Just a thought: I try to play a balanced strategy. A simplistic example would be: I play all pairs aces through jacks (24 hands), all AK-AKs (16 hands), and 50% of all suited connectors KQ - tray duce (44 hands). I would be nice to run these 'load ranges' where you could randomly select 50% of the connectors to play forward. Granted this is a simplistic example but i'm sure you understand the deception factor. Thanks for this opportunity for input.

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Hello HDS,
Long time, but the Mac-Expert version (V.9.4.1) now has a very general %age weights in hand ranges feature.

The screenshot below shows the weighted range in HDS's example above. The "View Weights" checkbox is turned on, which shows weights in the range grid (weight of 50% for suited connectors KQs .. 32s). Also, weighted cells are colored a deeper shade of yellow (on a yellow -> orange gradient). Also note that the range's %age and hand combo count (at the top-right part of the view) are adjusted for weights.

This is a big feature that cuts across the entire program; see its tutorial section for details and for more examples.

Thanks for this suggestion; I think/hope I eventually get around to just about all of the good suggestions.


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Great update !

Nice add-on and the UI seems more sharper.
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Old 11-23-2016, 09:10 PM   #168
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Great update !

Nice add-on and the UI seems more sharper.
Thanks!, I appreciate the moral support.
Software is an ever-changing and improving process.

Re. UI sharper, there are many small UI adjustments across the app in this update e.g. slightly better text and button sizing, slightly better alignment. Nothing major but it adds up.

But the big new features are %age weights and the "Auto-Stop" calculation setting.
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I was thinking about the previous post i made about the possibility of choosing hands in the heat map mode, what could be interesting is when you select specific part of the range with the [√] box, once selected they automatically carry over to a selected Turn and everything else is eliminated from the range. That way it will be so much quicker than selecting each that we want to carry over to the turn.
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I was thinking about the previous post i made about the possibility of choosing hands in the heat map mode, what could be interesting is when you select specific part of the range with the [√] box, once selected they automatically carry over to a selected Turn and everything else is eliminated from the range. That way it will be so much quicker than selecting each that we want to carry over to the turn.
I had a little trouble understanding the suggestion, not sure if I have correctly, but I think the already existing "Filter" button does exactly what you're suggesting. I have written about this filter range feature at least several times on the thread e.g. in post #159 in reply to your first post. To do the "everything else is eliminated from the range" operation, turn on the desired stats' checkboxes in the Stats view (middle section of window), then click the "Filter" button (have to have calculated first). Can you please take a look at this feature on the program's tutorial webpage and see if it does what you're looking for? Post #159 has links and more info. on it.

One unclear thing was:

>>> when you select specific part of the range with the [√] box

I take it this means the [√] boxes (plural), in the Stats view in the middle section of the window. I think I understood correctly, just verifying.
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you got different prices on Macbook $35, ipad $13, and iphone $10. I wonder if they are the same one or different?
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you got different prices on Macbook $35, ipad $13, and iphone $10. I wonder if they are the same one or different?
The Mac version is the "Expert" version. The iPhone and iPad versions are "Advanced" versions. Hence the difference in price.

Am a little surprised this wasn't clear from the apps' descriptions in the app stores and on our website, as "Expert" vs. "Advanced" is stated in the apps' titles and just about everywhere clearly. E.g. at the top of the Mac version's app store description it says: "The *Expert* version of PokerCruncher", and its app icon now has an "Exp" label to indicate expert-level.

Re. iPhone and iPad versions, both have the same "Advanced" core features but the iPad version is tailor-made for iPad and has some extra UI goodies like stats histogram bars, device-rotation, and a different/full-screen/more-integrated views layout than iPhone version, which makes using the app faster as you don't have to open and close views as on the small iPhone screen.

Hopefully all is clear now and you will investigate the advanced and expert-level features on the apps' tutorial and videos webpage.
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On another note, I think it would be really handy to be able to remove certain hands, such as flush draws.
For example, if you know a guy is never checking back a set, or a flush draw on the flop, then it would be nice to be able to remove these hands with a click, on the turn.
This program now has this feature, went live in V.10.1.1 in the last day. It's part of the filter hand range feature/button.

SHIFT+<Filter> = *Remove* the selected hand types (stats) from the range
<Filter> = *Keep* only the selected hand types (stats) in the range

A note, when working on filtering and subranges, it's usually helpful to turn on the "View Card Removal Effect" and "View Hand Combo Counts" checkbox settings so you can track the hand combo counts closely.

Thanks for sending suggestions.
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Good example.
I think the real issue here wasn't that the mouse-over-stats feature doesn't exist on the River (that feature by itself wouldn't help you here), but that the stats Top/Second/Bottom-Pair and a couple of others in that section don't exist on the River. These ~5 stats apply on the River and should exist. Seeing just the %age values for these stats tells you what you want to know here, but I'll try to get mouse-over in there too on the River. I'm adding this to my to-do as regular priority not low priority. Thanks for this suggestion.
The above features have been implemented in app update V.10.2.1.

1) The mouse-over-a-range's-stats feature is now enabled for Deal-To = <all 4 streets>, not just for Flop/Turn.

2) For Deal-To = River, advanced non-draw stats (Top/Second/Bottom-Pair, and a few more stats) and "Make Hand" vs "Hit Hand" stats are now calculated. However these stats are expensive/slow to calculate for Deal-To = River, so a new checkbox setting:

“Calc. Adv. & Make/Hit Stats For Deal-To=River”

has been added near the bottom of the Stats view. I recommend turning on this checkbox setting only when you need these additional stats.

Thanks for this stats suggestion and for all suggestions, as it helps keep the app on continual improvement. -RJ
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Hi,

Congrats on the new updates. I really like the addition of the weightings. The undo button has already saved me numerous times too. Keep up the good work.

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