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Old 11-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #26
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>>> btw, wat would the cost and difficulty be in upgrading my macbook from my current 10.5.8 to the 10.6.6+?

If I remember correctly it's a $29 upgrade. Not a difficult install, the usual long install and reboot.

If upgrading you may want to skip 10.6.6 and go straight to Lion (10.7). I don't run Lion yet though so have no feedback on it.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:48 PM   #27
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>>> btw, wat would the cost and difficulty be in upgrading my macbook from my current 10.5.8 to the 10.6.6+?

If I remember correctly it's a $29 upgrade. Not a difficult install, the usual long install and reboot.

If upgrading you may want to skip 10.6.6 and go straight to Lion (10.7). I don't run Lion yet though so have no feedback on it.
thanks...thats much cheaper than I thought, I will look into it.

edit: looks like i would need to upgrade/purchase snow leopard first. then upgrade to Lion. i dont think i can skip leopard.

so confusing with all these animals. there is leopard and snow leopard, lions...."and tigers". lol

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Old 11-28-2011, 04:01 PM   #28
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Does this program do everything flopzilla does?
I recently converted to mac and have been looking for a program similar to flopzilla?
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:26 PM   #29
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Does this program do everything flopzilla does?
I recently converted to mac and have been looking for a program similar to flopzilla?
(Disclosure: I'm the author of this app.)

Wrt flop texture analysis, no, not everything Flopzilla does, but most of it.

Imo: The two programs have different goals. Flopzilla is specifically flop texture analysis. This app is broader, fully general 10 player hand ranges equity calc, i.e. a PokerStove for Mac, but this app has stuff on top of PokerStove like range equity breakdown heat maps, hand combos stats, and Deal-To-Flop and flop texture analysis, and many additional stats.
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:42 PM   #30
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rj999,
I just purchased your app.
Are there any video tutorials online?
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:17 AM   #31
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I just purchased your app.
Are there any video tutorials online?
There's no video but there is a webpage tutorial:

http://www.pokercruncher.com/ipPoker...rTutorial.html

The screenshots are iPhone but the iPad and Mac versions have the same feature set. The Mac version has a little more like checkmark-able stats that are sum-ed up in a TotalHit stat, useful e.g. for seeing the total flop hit of a hand range.

If you're looking for a video, the main feature is hand ranges so any video out there that shows how to use PokerStove would apply.

Thanks for getting the app.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:58 AM   #32
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Just bought the app. Yet to use it properly though. First thing that comes to mind is that I'd like the option for a portrait layout so that it takes us less space across my screen but more space down one side of my screen.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:36 AM   #33
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Just bought the app. Yet to use it properly though. First thing that comes to mind is that I'd like the option for a portrait layout so that it takes us less space across my screen but more space down one side of my screen.
I'm leaning towards not adding a portrait mode.

Below is a picture of the program on my 13" Macbook; it uses up just about the whole screen landscape. Prob. portrait would only work on large desktops or maybe on 17" laptops running a high res, and I'm not sure yet if I want to add this feature just for a portion of the target computers.

The program would have to check the size of the screen it's running on and allow portrait only if there's enough space vertically (o.w. I'm sure it won't make it past Apple's review). I won't say I'll never do this, I'll put it on the to-do.

Thanks for buying the program, hope you feel it's a step up from 'Stove regardless.

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Old 12-13-2011, 01:40 AM   #34
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Have you tested PokerCruncher on an 11" MBA? Would it fit?

Yeah I have a 27" iMac. On a desktop, it would be more convenient to have PokerCruncher in portrait along one side of the screen. I wouldn't think you need to build any smarts into the program, just have an option for portrait or landscape, maybe even a radio button on the screen to toggle between the two.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:04 AM   #35
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>>> Have you tested PokerCruncher on an 11" MBA? Would it fit?

Yes it will fit; I considered this when deciding the width and height of the app's main window:
11" MacBook Air: 1366 by 768 (native)
PokerCruncher: 1200 x 690
It took some effort to get the height under 700, as you can see by how tightly some elements are packed vertically.

The system menu bar at the top (or left/right) takes some space so even at 690 it's pushing it vertically but yes it fits even on Air's.

>>> I wouldn't think you need to build any smarts into the program

I would, one reason is because this program is being sold through the App Store and so must meet app review guidelines. Apple won't approve an always-allowed portrait mode because it can result in portions of the main window being unviewable and inaccessible on small screens. I say this confidently because when I first submitted this app, the main window was resizeable. Apple rejected the app and sent it back to me because if you resize to a small area, some portions of the main screen are cut off and unviewable and they said the user should be able to scroll to all parts of the virtual window. So I made the main window non-resizeable and the app got approved.

Maybe you want to multi-table and you want the app on the left side? But if you have a screen that big you can also put the other windows under the app's window right?

My feeling still: this is on my to-do but I don't see it being a showstopper for anybody so this still isn't high enough priority for me to get to anytime soon, sorry.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:56 AM   #36
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No worries mate, focus on the bigger issues. Just don't forget us "iPeople" while you tinker with Android
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:56 PM   #37
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ok so i have snow leopard on order, should be in a couple days. I'm going to wait on upgrading to Lion, just dont see the need at the moment. Once i install snow leopard and purchase/install pokercruncher, ill be sure to give some feedback.

really dumb question but when I pay for the mac version, can I then sync the app to my iphone? or would i have to purchase the iphone version separately?
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:35 PM   #38
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Yeah I don't have Lion yet either. Pls do send feedback.. Compare using this app on Mac vs. 'Stove on a PC (I do realize one is free and one is paid).

Separate purchases, can't sync from Mac version to iPhone/iPad, completely different OS/binary. iPhone and iPad are the same OS, but the way I have it set up even those are separate purchases. A consolation here is that the iPhone version is 1/3 the cost of the Mac version.
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:52 AM   #39
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really dumb question but when I pay for the mac version, can I then sync the app to my iphone? or would i have to purchase the iphone version separately?
As rj said, they are separate apps: http://appshopper.com/search/?search=pokercruncher
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:43 AM   #40
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PokerCruncher Mac

Just wanted to let you know, buying your program now for mac.
Keep up the Good work and keep posting updates on this forum.
Thank you so much!!!!
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:24 PM   #41
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Quick question and sorry if this was answered on another thread. Did it ever cross your mind to develop PokerCruncher as well as the other 3 apps for Android phones?

Thanks
Finally, there's an Android version now, on Android Market: link.

Have started a new thread for the Android version.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:22 AM   #42
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Recently purchased the app and am now getting the hang of it - well done!

One feature I think would be good (or maybe it's there and I can't work it out) would be to have an option on the heat map to remove hands with less than x% equity from the player's range. That way I can simulate what hands would likely continue past the flop and then again similarly past the turn. At the moment if I'm looking at the heat map on the river it's not indicative as a fair amount of hands wouldn't have continued that far, This will help me with learning hand reading I think. Obviously I could do it all manually, but I think it would be a pretty simple mod and save a heap of time.

What do you think? I am relatively new at poker so maybe my logic is all wrong, but the idea seems right to me. I'm happy to help out with beta testing if you can make such a mod.

I don't know if there are any other apps out there that can do this.

Thanks again.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:34 PM   #43
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Thanks for getting the app and for good words on it.

>>> have an option on the heat map to remove hands with less than x% equity from the player's range

The app can sort of approximate this currently by using the heat map's color spectrum slider. See the pic below; this is {Top25%} vs. {Top50%} just as an example. Say we want to ignore all cells that have < 35% equity. Breakeven equity is 50%, so if we set the slider to 15% (50 - 35), all cells that have < 35% equity will be colored dark red. (And all cells that have > 65% equity will be colored dark green.) So then we'd ignore all the dark red cells and focus on the other cells.

This is just visual, it doesn't actually remove hands/cells from the range, but more on the removal part below. And I know this isn't as clean as completely removing the undesired cells visually, but just wanted to give info. on what you can do currently.

>>> That way I can simulate what hands would likely continue past the flop and then again similarly past the turn.

I think this is a good hand analysis approach. Before I write further first a disclaimer, I'm by no means a poker expert, I consider myself an intermediate, so more experienced players may want to comment on the next paragraph ...

But I don't think that simply removing all cells that have < x% equity is a good way to refine your opponent's range as the hand progresses. The reason is that you know exactly what two cards you have, so you'll enter your two specific cards into the app. Your opponent however will be putting you on a range of hands. It could happen that the two cards you have happen to hit the flop/turn very hard (or very weak), and this will be reflected in the calculated equities. But your opponent is working off of a hand range he's assigned to you (and is refining himself as he gets more info.). So removing your opponent's hands (cells) that have < x% equity based on your perspective (your two specific cards), will not match the hands that your opponent will decide to remove / continue on with.

Do let me know if I haven't explained what I'm thinking well enough. Basically I think this shortcut of removing your opponent's < x% equity cells will do more harm than good in refining your opponent's range, because it won't be how your opponent is thinking. I think the best way to do this is to manually edit your opponent's range based on the flop/turn texture and actions in the hand. You could save the ranges at each intermediate point if you want to go back and forth.

I don't know if other apps can do this kind of auto-hand-refining, certainly not PokerStove. Maybe I'll work on this kind of feature someday, but it'll have to be a pretty smart/challenging feature.

So I think I've managed to postpone this suggestion : ). If anyone thinks I'm missing something important here do let me know. Another factor is, I want to keep the app pretty minimal and robust in terms of features from this point on.

Thanks for feedback and ideas. -RJ

{Top25%} vs. {Top50%}, Player2's heat map:
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:40 AM   #44
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Hey,

Looking to buy this app so I just searched it on the app store and it came up as either for iPad or iPod and I was wondering which one do I get for my macbook pro? thanks.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:01 AM   #45
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Looking to buy this app so I just searched it on the app store and it came up as either for iPad or iPod and I was wondering which one do I get for my macbook pro? thanks.
Thanks for interest in the app. The Mac version is on the Mac App Store (vs. the iOS App Store). On your Mac, do Apple Menu --> App Store... You need OS X 10.6.6 or later to have the Mac App Store in the Apple menu.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:09 AM   #46
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Sweet, worked it out thanks. Will play around with it and leave you a review on the app store or something cause there's none on there.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:54 PM   #47
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Does pokercruncher have some type of filter (like on flopzilla) that allows us to see what percentage of hands in an opponent's range fit the flop and what percentage of hands in an opponent's range do not fit the flop? Or more specifically, what percentage of hands in the range are strong fits and which are weak fits? If so, how do you use it?

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:19 PM   #48
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Does pokercruncher have some type of filter (like on flopzilla) that allows us to see what percentage of hands in an opponent's range fit the flop and what percentage of hands in an opponent's range do not fit the flop? Or more specifically, what percentage of hands in the range are strong fits and which are weak fits? If so, how do you use it?
The Mac version has a stat called "Total Hit" at the bottom that I think does most of what you want. All stats have a checkbox next to them. The "Total Hit" stat simply sums up all of the checkmark'ed stats. So how you define "fit the flop" is determined by which stats you turn on and which you turn off. Should be careful though not to include overlapping stats in order to get an accurate TotalHit stat result.

This most probably isn't as flexible as FlopZilla, but flop analysis is the specific purpose of that tool. This app's first purpose is fully general 10 player hand ranges equity calc. Deal-To-Flop is a useful added feature that complements this I think.

If this doesn't quite do what you want, pls. let me know your specific example (i.e. how you define "fit the flop") and we can discuss.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:11 PM   #49
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RJ,

any way you could allow range editing in the Heat Map window?
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:56 PM   #50
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any way you could allow range editing in the Heat Map window?
Hi,

Not sure if I understand what kind of editing yet. Do you mean adding/removing cells (hands) from the range (i.e. what you can do in the regular "editor" mode of this view)? That may not make good sense in the heat map view, because this view of the range is an "examine the range results in detail" mode. Whereas the normal (editor) mode is where you can modify the range.

Another way to look at it is, if you do modify the range in the heat map view, then that invalidates the entire calculation results. The results should be reset after any modification, and you should calculate again to get the new results / heat map.

But still not sure if I understand the edit you're wanting, can you pls. clarify?
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