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Old 04-06-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
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PokerCruncher Mac

This is the support thread for PokerCruncher Mac, which is an odds calculator for the Mac.

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Old 04-06-2011, 05:25 PM   #2
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Re: New Mac Software: PokerCruncher; hand ranges odds calc + flop stats/texture analysis for Ho

have the iPhone version. you are a god.

edit: playing with it now..very well done.

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Old 04-06-2011, 06:23 PM   #3
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have the iPhone version. you are a god.

edit: playing with it now..very well done.
Thanks!, you made my day.

A few more features I want to point out, that even the app's iPhone/iPad versions don't have:

1) You can save hand ranges as simple text files (*.rng files) anywhere on your filesystem. This lets you organize saved ranges any way you wish e.g. in nested subfolders. E.g. a subfolder for a tight-aggr's ranges by position, a lag's ranges, a tight-passive's ranges, etc. Having them on your filesystem e.g. makes it easy to zip/email them and share with friends.

2) You can save entire scenarios (*.pcr files), and import *.pcr files, using the File menu. This was suggested by DesertCat last year but I decided to save it for the desktop version.

3) Note the new "Total Hit" stat at the bottom of the Stats view. This stat just sums up the values of the checkmark'ed stats (but since it's just a simple sum you probably don't want to sum up overlapping stats). It can be used e.g. as a "cumulative flop hit" stat.

Also re. the UI, I went with both text and graphical input (point and click card icons) for assigning cards. Even though technically this is repetitive and takes more space in the UI, I thought it helps the program's user friendliness and ease of use.
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:42 PM   #4
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Re: New Mac Software: PokerCruncher; hand ranges odds calc + flop stats/texture analysis for Ho

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Also re. the UI, I went with both text and graphical input (point and click card icons) for assigning cards. Even though technically this is repetitive and takes more space in the UI, I thought it helps the program's user friendliness and ease of use.

agreed..needs to have a Mac feel
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:29 PM   #5
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Re: New Mac Software: PokerCruncher; hand ranges odds calc + flop stats/texture analysis for Ho

Wow... something ppl have been waiting for since a long time! U r the man! (need to try it but looks promising!)..
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:51 PM   #6
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Wow... something ppl have been waiting for since a long time! U r the man! (need to try it but looks promising!)..
Thanks, yes when it comes to native desktop programs developers have always written for Windows first (for good reason) and maybe never gotten to Mac. I'm happy to tilt the scales in the other direction a little.

If you're on the fence about buying, you may want to try the free demo version available on www.pokercruncher.com.
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:00 AM   #7
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Re: New Mac Software: PokerCruncher; hand ranges odds calc + flop stats/texture analysis for Ho

tilted I only just found out about this, very good job =)
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:09 PM   #8
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Nice looking program
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:35 AM   #9
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Re: New Mac Software: PokerCruncher; hand ranges odds calc + flop stats/texture analysis for Ho

Hey mate, Just got this program and want to say that it is awesome. I have told everyone I know to get it.

Just a suggestion for future updates, where you have the button to change between % and n:1 odds, a third option for # of combos of hands in each of the different hand strength bracket would be really nice as that is how I think about hands generally. Nonetheless, great job.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:34 PM   #10
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Hey mate, Just got this program and want to say that it is awesome. I have told everyone I know to get it.

Just a suggestion for future updates, where you have the button to change between % and n:1 odds, a third option for # of combos of hands in each of the different hand strength bracket would be really nice as that is how I think about hands generally. Nonetheless, great job.
Thanks for good feedback and for spreading the word on the app; being a small dev shop I appreciate it a lot.

Not sure if I understand your #OfCombos feature. Would this apply only when Deal-To=Flop and a specific flop is entered? So then for a range, the app would show how many hand combos in the range make OnePair, TwoPair, 4FlushDraw etc.? But then the %age values of OnePair, TwoPair, etc. also show the hand combos values but in percent form, so I'm not sure if I understand your feature; is it something more general?

If I'm not understanding correctly, an example usage scenario with a couple of expected hand combos values would help a lot.

The app does show hand combos values, but they're very granular - if you view the range breakdown heat map of a range and click the ViewDetails button, the # of hand combos for each hand (cell) in the range is shown. E.g.:

Hand, (%age of range, number of assign-able hand combinations), Equity

AA (37.50%, 6 combs) 91.22%
KK (37.50%, 6 combs) 90.74%

AKs (25.00%, 4 combs) 73.77%

A small update to all versions (iPhone, iPad, Mac) is coming in a week or two so this feature will have to wait til later (and til after I understand it). Thanks, -rj

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Old 07-05-2011, 01:28 AM   #11
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Re: PokerCruncher Mac

Very basic question,
Equity, Win, Tie)
Player 1: 60.00% 60.00% 0.000% [KdKc]
Player 2: 40.00% 40.00% 0.000% {JJ-TT, 55, 33-22, AhAs, QcQh, QdQh, QdQc, AcQc-AcTc, QcJc}

Board: [3h 3c 2c 5c 2h]
Deal To: Turn
Dead Cards: {}

In this example, does pokercruncher calculate only one combo of 22 and 33 in the result? Because when I want to count only one AA combo I do it manually, but when card are on board does poker cruncher remove them automatically? I am wondering since it does not only show the combo of 22 and 33 that there are possibly left. Hope im clear.
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Old 07-05-2011, 08:15 AM   #12
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Very basic question,
Equity, Win, Tie)
Player 1: 60.00% 60.00% 0.000% [KdKc]
Player 2: 40.00% 40.00% 0.000% {JJ-TT, 55, 33-22, AhAs, QcQh, QdQh, QdQc, AcQc-AcTc, QcJc}

Board: [3h 3c 2c 5c 2h]
Deal To: Turn
Dead Cards: {}

In this example, does pokercruncher calculate only one combo of 22 and 33 in the result? Because when I want to count only one AA combo I do it manually, but when card are on board does poker cruncher remove them automatically? I am wondering since it does not only show the combo of 22 and 33 that there are possibly left. Hope im clear.
Yes the app calculates only 1 combo of 22 and 1 combo of 33 in this example because two 2's and two 3's are on the board and so are non-live cards, leaving just 1 combo of each assign-able.

The range editor shows that all 6 combos of 22 and 33 are live (because you didn't limit the combos yourself in the range) but if you view the range breakdown for Player 2 and click "View Details" the below result is shown, which shows only 1 combo for 22 and 33 each.

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Range Breakdown: Player 2

JJ-TT, 55, 33-22, AhAs, QcQh, QdQh, QdQc, AcQc-AcTc, QcJc

Range's Equity: 40.00%
Breakeven Equity: 50.00%

Number of assign-able hand combinations in range (includes card and range removal effects): 25

Number of hand combinations possible (includes card removal effect, but not range removal effect): 990

HandCombinationsInRange / HandCombinationsPossible: 2.525%

Hand, (%age of range, number of assign-able hand combinations), Equity

AA (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
QQ (12.00%, 3 combs) 0.000%
JJ (24.00%, 6 combs) 0.000%
TT (24.00%, 6 combs) 0.000%
55 (12.00%, 3 combs) 100.0%
33 (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
22 (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%

AQs (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
AJs (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
ATs (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
QJs (4.00%, 1 combs) 100.0%
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:59 PM   #13
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thanks for that.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:47 PM   #14
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please make sngwizz for mac. pokercruncher is great
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:45 AM   #15
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Hi,

I am new to 2+2. I am Marcel and a poker enthusiast from Holland. I look forward to participating on this forum with you all.

Love PC for Ipad. I was wondering; when you say I can save entire scenarios on the Mac version, does that translate into something like: "load scenario 1" which might be JThh on a T87 rainbow board when 1 opponent has a 15% PFR (that I also predefined)? I just wonder how detailed my saved scenarios can get.

Thanks,

Marcel

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Old 08-02-2011, 04:04 AM   #16
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Marcel - Great, thanks for getting the iPad version. Yes that's an example of a scenario that can be saved in the Mac version.

You can save the entire state of the program (except the calc results) as a PokerCruncher file (*.pcr file), and save these files anywhere on your filesystem (organized into your own folder and subfolder structure), and then load these files back into the program. Each file saves up to 10 players (with hand ranges for each player), board cards, Deal-To-xxx setting, dead cards, etc. You can also save/load just hand ranges (*.rng files).

The iPhone and iPad versions only let you save/load hand ranges (up to 100 of them), not entire scenarios.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:54 AM   #17
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Hey rj,

Just wanted to say, great work on the app! Tried the demo, then paid for the Mac version. Man, I've been looking for something like this for a while.

Keep up the good work!
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Old 08-18-2011, 03:37 PM   #18
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shaunofthebet - Awesome, thanks for writing (iTunes reviews would be greatly appreciated too : ) ). Now it's about time to see if I can expand the app beyond the Apple world.
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:02 PM   #19
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Hi rj,

Quick question and sorry if this was answered on another thread. Did it ever cross your mind to develop PokerCruncher as well as the other 3 apps for Android phones?

Thanks
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:09 AM   #20
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Development of PokerCruncher-Android has been started! Not sure yet if I'll do the other 3 apps for Android, first things first because PokerCruncher on all the various Android phones will be challenging. Thanks for interest in the apps.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:25 AM   #21
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Development of PokerCruncher-Android has been started! Not sure yet if I'll do the other 3 apps for Android, first things first because PokerCruncher on all the various Android phones will be challenging. Thanks for interest in the apps.
That are great news! GL with it

I'd really like to see the other apps available as well but agree when you say first things first.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:51 PM   #22
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Development of PokerCruncher-Android has been started! Not sure yet if I'll do the other 3 apps for Android, first things first because PokerCruncher on all the various Android phones will be challenging. Thanks for interest in the apps.
It's about time! Good news!
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:27 PM   #23
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downloaded the demo version before i purchase but it says I cant use the demo on my version of MAC OSX 10.5.8.

edit: i see i need 10.6.6 or later....so i guess its the same for the full version.

is there anyway around this?
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:28 PM   #24
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downloaded the demo version before i purchase but it says I cant use the demo on my version of MAC OSX 10.5.8.

edit: i see i need 10.6.6 or later....so i guess its the same for the full version.

is there anyway around this?
No way around it currently or planned in the future. It has nothing to do with the API's used or graphics/features. I decided to enable purchase/install exclusively through the Mac App Store, and you need 10.6.6 or later to get the Mac App Store.

I thought that supporting multiple means of purchase/install would be too much extra work and bookkeeping, including taking payments, sending out registration keys after payment, adding code to the program to verify registered copies, etc. Even if this is outsourced it's extra overhead. Since the iPhone/iPad versions are exclusively app store I decided to go with the simplest model, just the app store.

Sorry for the inconvenience; I hope you'll be able to upgrade to 10.6.6+ sometime and try out the app.
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No way around it currently or planned in the future. It has nothing to do with the API's used or graphics/features. I decided to enable purchase/install exclusively through the Mac App Store, and you need 10.6.6 or later to get the Mac App Store.

I thought that supporting multiple means of purchase/install would be too much extra work and bookkeeping, including taking payments, sending out registration keys after payment, adding code to the program to verify registered copies, etc. Even if this is outsourced it's extra overhead. Since the iPhone/iPad versions are exclusively app store I decided to go with the simplest model, just the app store.

Sorry for the inconvenience; I hope you'll be able to upgrade to 10.6.6+ sometime and try out the app.
no problem... im getting the Iphone 4S next month so ill just get the app for it then. would prefer to have it on my macbook but i guess its better than nothing.

btw, wat would the cost and difficulty be in upgrading my macbook from my current 10.5.8 to the 10.6.6+?
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