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02-04-2012, 02:16 AM
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#376
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veteran
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,904
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Re: PokerCruncher
awesome dumb question from me.
pokercruncher works great on normal PC ( i have an iphone but not a mac desktop only a "regular" one with window )?
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02-04-2012, 12:03 PM
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#377
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
There's no PC (Windows) version of PokerCruncher (dare I say 'yet'). There are iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Android versions.
Windows version is a maybe because there are free hand range calculators out there. I'd have to hope that a decent %age of those users will pay $ for something more powerful than e.g. PokerStove; I'll weigh the risk.
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03-15-2012, 07:40 AM
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#378
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Finland
Posts: 55
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Re: PokerCruncher
Is PokerCruncher app compatible with iPhone and iPad? I mean can I use it on both with single purchase?
Thanks!
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03-15-2012, 06:47 PM
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#379
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
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Originally Posted by Hetsis
Is PokerCruncher app compatible with iPhone and iPad? I mean can I use it on both with single purchase?
Thanks!
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There are separate versions for iPhone and iPad so it would be two purchases (same for the Mac and Android versions of course).
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04-05-2012, 07:39 PM
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#380
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 67
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Re: PokerCruncher
RJ--
You really should be able to save scenario hands you have input. I just downloaded app, and it is very nice, but I use it for live hands. Like most would with an ipad.
so, to save hands for later review what to do?
needs save feature, and I would have default names by date and time. That way its a quick click to save, before dealer yells at me to act !!
Plus, your app makes me write the hand anyway for later, so when I get home, I can just use whatever program i have... as opposed to needing yours.
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04-05-2012, 09:12 PM
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#381
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
which,
Thanks for buying the app. The Mac version has SaveScenario/LoadScenario (to/from *.pcr files). The iPhone/iPad versions don't have this feature fully, but do have the ability to export/import a scenario's text. So you can do Menu-->ViewScenarioText&Export-->Export(Email). Then later to import a scenario, first copy an exported scenario's text from the email and then do Menu-->ImportScenario in the app.
Maybe I should add full-fledged SaveScenario/LoadScenario to the iPhone/iPad versions someday (say 100 slots), but I thought this feature makes more sense in the more workhorse Mac (desktop) version rather than in the mobile versions. I will re-consider but since export/import scenario is already there, I won't guarantee it. : )
So you don't need to write down hands manually. In fact on many TwoPlusTwo threads people have posted scenario text they exported out of PokerCruncher.
Hope you continue to like the app; do send questions/suggestions if more come up.
Thanks, -RJ
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04-05-2012, 09:45 PM
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#382
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
One more thing - if you just want to save scenarios locally on your device, then export the scenario's text to email, but no need to send the email (to yourself). Instead copy all of the scenario's text (in the email), then switch to e.g. the Notes app, and paste the text into a note, for copying/importing later. This gives even more flexibility than the 100 saved-scenarios slots plan because there's no limit, and you can name/date and organize the notes any way you want.
Now I'm remembering why I didn't add full-fledged save/load scenario to the iPhone/iPad versions. In the Mac version you can save scenarios to arbitrary *.pcr files on your filesystem, organized in any folder structure you want. We don't have such full control over the iPhone's/iPad's filesystem, so I thought just export/import would be better.
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04-05-2012, 09:46 PM
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#383
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 67
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Re: PokerCruncher
well, email is okay I guess. I was confused by when it said 'text' thinking it would just spit something out I could not convert.
But, really? Would prefer to save the hands inside the Ipad. I mean an Ipad is portable, its in a live setting, and I might want to show somebody else the hand right?
And as a bonus feature, my showing others on YOUR app, may get greater awareness of your app, and thus greater sales.
My showing a text upload on an internet forum does not really add a 'wow' factor to your app at all.
If you are adding features, in the future I would also like to see stack sizes of opponents, with side pots feature (% win for each side pot)
THIS would also be very cool.
My thougts are, each limitation (unable to save hands on the device itself, no stack sizes, no pre determined range percentage, etc) just adds some niggling discontent to the customer. The Ipad has plenty of memory right? why not use it for some features?
just my .02, and I do like the app. It could just be superb, and it's not there yet. So a little frustration showing on my part.
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04-05-2012, 09:49 PM
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#384
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
Our msgs criss-crossed in the air, did you see my post #382 above about using the Notes app to save scenarios locally?
>>> no pre determined range percentage
Can you pls. explain further? The app does have a range slider that shows %age.
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04-05-2012, 10:10 PM
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#385
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 67
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Re: PokerCruncher
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Originally Posted by rj999
One more thing - if you just want to save scenarios locally on your device, then export the scenario's text to email, but no need to send the email (to yourself). Instead copy all of the scenario's text (in the email), then switch to e.g. the Notes app, and paste the text into a note, for copying/importing later. This gives even more flexibility than the 100 saved-scenarios slots plan because there's no limit, and you can name/date and organize the notes any way you want.
Now I'm remembering why I didn't add full-fledged save/load scenario to the iPhone/iPad versions. In the Mac version you can save scenarios to arbitrary *.pcr files on your filesystem, organized in any folder structure you want. We don't have such full control over the iPhone's/iPad's filesystem, so I thought just export/import would be better.
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I am not very literate on a computer, let alone an Ipad, but it sounds like you are asking me to
1. Input hand scenario
2. send file to myself via email
3. open note pad
4. copy email text into notepad
5. save notepad
6. copy notepad/or import from notepad into Ipad
As opposed to your writing some code that would save your entire user base approximately how much time?
Really?
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PS I like the app, but you want folks to 'love it" right, and so give it 5 out of 5 stars? Give them the features that should be intuitive
You have a portable device that is most appropriate for sharing live, this concept is not that hard to understand right? And, truthfully, I cannot program so I don't really care how hard it is (as long as it is possible) to program this into the app, I just know I want it
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04-05-2012, 10:17 PM
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#386
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 67
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Re: PokerCruncher
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Originally Posted by Xela
I use the app and really love it. However, one suggestion:
Could you please add some built in % ranges? Eg. a standard 5%, 7%, 10%, 12%, etc... pre flop raise range. Maybe similar with calling and 3bet ranges. I know there are different possible ranges for a given % but I am only interested in approximations, so any reasonable range should do. I want to calculate my equity vs a specific pre-flop range and it is really annoying to have to input this every time.
This should be really easy for you implement and would add a lot of value. Or as an even better alternative let users save their custom ranges that they can use over and over again.
Do you think you could implement something like this in one of your future updates?
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This is what I was referring to also.
PokerStrategy.com has a really cool feature where the open raise segregated by position (different training sites' recommendations), raising one limper, 3betting by the opener's position, stuff like that.
This is a very useful and commonly accepted percentage base for us to work off of.
In addition, any custom ranges should be saved of course (*I mean, why bother going to the huge trouble of setting ranges, if we cannot save them?) and not saying Poker Cruncher does not, just it seems from the poster above, it does not. I just bought the app recently.
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04-05-2012, 11:45 PM
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#387
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
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Originally Posted by which
I am not very literate on a computer, let alone an Ipad, but it sounds like you are asking me to
1. Input hand scenario
2. send file to myself via email
3. open note pad
4. copy email text into notepad
5. save notepad
6. copy notepad/or import from notepad into Ipad
As opposed to your writing some code that would save your entire user base approximately how much time?
Really?
which
PS I like the app, but you want folks to 'love it" right, and so give it 5 out of 5 stars? Give them the features that should be intuitive
You have a portable device that is most appropriate for sharing live, this concept is not that hard to understand right? And, truthfully, I cannot program so I don't really care how hard it is (as long as it is possible) to program this into the app, I just know I want it 
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>>>Re. your 1-6 steps:
* First, if you write verbosely enough, anything can be made to look complicated. 
* Step 1 is necessary for any save-scenario method; including this step makes the steps look longer.
* Step 2: No! You don't need to send the scenario text to yourself via email.
I had written in my post #382: "but no need to send the email (to yourself)".
* The rest of the steps are OK, but step 6 is import, so you have both export and import here, which makes it look longer than it is.
I can say it shorter:
* To save a scenario: Do Menu-->Export, tap Export button and copy the scenario's text, switch to Notes and save the text in a note.
* To load a scenario: Copy the scenario's text from a note (or email/etc.), switch to PokerCruncher and do Menu-->Import.
I agree with you that this isn't as fast/simple as a full-fledged save/load scenario feature (like the Mac version has). I said this from the start, and I also said that since the export/import workaround is there, I'm in no hurry to add the full-fledged method. I'm not saying I'll never add it; I'm just saying I don't think this is a showstopper.
>>> PS I like the app, but you want folks to 'love it" right
Yes, mostly. A lot of people love this app - see the comments in this long thread, and reviews in the app store. But do I expect *everyone* to love this app? No!
There will always be people that don't like it for some reason - say the app has 99 great features but is missing the 1 feature that someone really wants, or maybe someone doesn't fully understand the features and how to use them so doesn't see the full value of the app, etc.
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04-05-2012, 11:55 PM
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#388
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
>>> I would also like to see stack sizes of opponents, with side pots feature (% win for each side pot)
I think this is a good suggestion, but is out of the scope of this app so I won't be adding it. This is an equity/odds calculator; it's not a decision analyzer that requires stack sizes, chips put into the pot on each street, position, etc. Just about all equity/odds calculators I know e.g. PokerStove, the CardPlayer calculator, do not take stack sizes as input. I'd like to keep PokerCruncher also on this equity/odds level.
Note: I have another app in the App Store called "ICM Cruncher", which does take stack sizes, chips put into the pot, etc. as input. This is also a push/call/fold decision analyzer, so is a higher-level app than PokerCruncher. In fact ICM Cruncher takes a player's equity as input, so PokerCruncher is the lower-level app even though it's a more complex app. Maybe I'll write a similar app to ICM Cruncher for cash games someday; that will be the right app to put stack sizes into.
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04-06-2012, 12:06 AM
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#389
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 217
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Re: PokerCruncher
Quote:
Originally Posted by which
This is what I was referring to also.
PokerStrategy.com has a really cool feature where the open raise segregated by position (different training sites' recommendations), raising one limper, 3betting by the opener's position, stuff like that.
This is a very useful and commonly accepted percentage base for us to work off of.
In addition, any custom ranges should be saved of course (*I mean, why bother going to the huge trouble of setting ranges, if we cannot save them?) and not saying Poker Cruncher does not, just it seems from the poster above, it does not. I just bought the app recently.
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You haven't looked at the app closely enough yet; it can save/load hand ranges for years (in a full-fledged built-in way, no copy/paste text shortcuts), try it out!
So you can create your own library of saved hand ranges, to parallel e.g. PokerStrategy.com's.
Here's my reply to Xela in the very next post after Xela's:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xela
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Or as an even better alternative let users save their custom ranges that they can use over and over again.
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Thanks, good to hear you like the app. The app can already save/load custom hand ranges. In the hand range editor screen do Menu --> SaveHandRangeAs..., and there's a LoadHandRange... command here. You can save up to 100 hand ranges and can name them e.g. "Top 10%". This save/load feature is in all versions of the app, iPhone, iPad, and Mac.
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04-06-2012, 01:00 AM
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#390
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 67
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Re: PokerCruncher
RJ--
It is your program, so do with it, and how much to is as you wish.
I am a customer, and am telling you that your asking us to exit your app to save hands, then have to go back and select/copy from outside your app to retrieve a hand is a high hurdle.
I took the trouble to find out how to do this (nowhere on your site do you explain the import/export feature as far as I can see, but to be fair, maybe I missed this) and it took a while. I cannot see myself doing this with friends in real time. Can you?
I will tell you again, and I am decent at marketing (trust me  )
Having someone see your app pull up a hand, WITHOUT leaving the app will be a very cool thing, it will GRAB THEIR ATTENTION.
You sound like some MS DOS guy who keeps saying, my program does that... just type e: // format G etc etc etc
Meanwhile GUI's took over the world.
Hope this was not too verbose for you.
which
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