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01-21-2009 , 12:26 PM
it forced me to uninstall/reinstall
01-21-2009 , 05:07 PM
All of our products uninstall and then install a fresh copy in its place.


Thank you all for your feedback! Keep it coming.

Last edited by Poker Academy; 01-21-2009 at 05:08 PM. Reason: props
01-21-2009 , 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
All of our products uninstall and then install a fresh copy in its place.
Should the check for updates function tell us there is a new beta?
01-22-2009 , 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BabboonBoy
Should the check for updates function tell us there is a new beta?

Checking for updates will not work for the beta.

You should have received an email from us with the new download link.
01-22-2009 , 01:35 PM
As promised I performed a large import. Actually I did 3 - 600+k cash game hands each. The reason I chose to do this was to find out the practicality of importing and running large DBs on P2. The ability to run large DBs would make this ap viable for the hardcore player. Also, I wanted to see if P2 would hold up under the stress of a large DB import.

The first import speed started at 600hps which is very impressive. As with all DB imports that speed slowly diminished. The entire DB was imported in a little over 1 hour 38 minutes and the final speed was only 97hps - which is still pretty respectable. Five errors occured during the import and P2 prompted me to allow an error report which I did. The errors were java/unknown source related - hopefully PA got them and will address them. Dispite the errors I was still able to access the DB that was created. P2 retrieves data from the large DB very fast which was a major plus.

The resulting DB was very small 600k hands ended up a little less than 156mb. Comparing this to the same size import on Postgres which was several gigs, the P2 DB is miniscule.

Next I imported another 600k HH. The speed started out at 170hps and ended up at 84hps taking about 3.5 hours. Five more errors occured during the import and P2 prompted me to allow an error report which I did. The errors were java/unknown source related - hopefully PA got them and will address them.. The resulting Db was again very small at about 170mb. When accessing the DB with 1.2+ million hands I did get a few crashes. They happened when P2 was crunching some numbers and I was still navigating around the program. As I mentioned in my previous post, the swirly "calculating thingy" is not good. A progress bar and locking the ap while it's working is a much better idea. P2 restarted fine and went on about it's business after reboot.

Third import started at 90hps and ended at 46hps and ran for 4 hours 15 minutes. Five more errors occured during the import and P2 prompted me to allow an error report which I did. The errors were java/unknown source related - hopefully PA got them and will address them..DB access was fine but still got a freeze if I navigated while the DB was grinding away. Total size of all 3 imports, which totals almost 2 million hands, is 546mb.

I just installed B108 and will and another large import or 2 and report back.
01-22-2009 , 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
You should have received an email from us with the new download link.
Nope, never did. Think I'm on build 96 (or something) still.
01-22-2009 , 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
Hello.

We have discussed the HUD idea internally with great debate. Our current thought is that Prospector is intended for Post Game analysis of your player rather than real time analysis of a foe's play. We hope that Prospector can make you a more solid overall player with this information.
There is always room for more than 1 statistics software package to be run, and at the price points these products are at the value is easily recouped.
I applaud this decision, and its the main reason for me having sticked with prospector through thick and thin.
01-23-2009 , 03:14 PM
how do i filter for number of players at the table? That filter seems to be missing from the filter list.
01-24-2009 , 04:04 PM
I seem to have an issue with the net$ verses net BB. especially in tournaments.
Trying to check the summaries for winnings it is showing all of the tournament $ won.
Also it only seems to show actual $ won for those tournaments that I came in first.
any other winnings are not reflected.
I vote for a netBB verses net $ won.
01-26-2009 , 07:31 PM
Seems like I finally overwelmed P2 with HHs. I got the DB up to about 7 million hands and was enjoying being able to really research some of my regular villians then ...

On a start up P2 notified that my DB would need to be updated and did so. When it was complete there were 0 hands - gone and the following errors x 15 -

java.io.EOFException
at java.io.DataInputStream.readFully(Unknown Source)
at java.io.DataInputStream.readUTF(Unknown Source)
at java.io.DataInputStream.readUTF(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.F.A(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.F.A(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.F.B(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.O.A(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.O.B(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.O.A(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.T.B(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.T.<init>(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.T.B(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.T.E(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.T.G(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.V.L(Unknown Source)
at com.biotools.poker.prospector.app.Prospector.<init >(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInsta nce0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInsta nce(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newI nstance(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
at com.vastmind.loader.Launcher.launchProgram(Launche r.java:49)
at com.biotools.poker.PokerAppLauncher.loadLocal(Poke rAppLauncher.java:51)
at com.biotools.poker.PokerAppLauncher.<init>(PokerAp pLauncher.java:29)
at com.biotools.poker.PokerAppLauncher.main(PokerAppL auncher.java:113)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.exe4j.runtime.LauncherEngine.launch(Unknown Source)
at com.exe4j.runtime.WinLauncher.main(Unknown Source)
at 0:12

The DB is still on the HD (1.08 gigs) but P2 no longer accesses it. I tried to add it back but only about 3 mil hands come back and the program is extremely sluggish. B108 btw.
01-26-2009 , 11:23 PM
7M hands, wow. Were you noticing any slowdown before the crash?
01-27-2009 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kidpokeher
7M hands, wow. Were you noticing any slowdown before the crash?
Not really. Only when loading the DB.
01-27-2009 , 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grumpy64
how do i filter for number of players at the table? That filter seems to be missing from the filter list.
Hello,

I beleive you are looking at Tournament stats. What you need to do is load Hand stats.

They load up 2 different types of detailed statistics windows.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mucky
I seem to have an issue with the net$ verses net BB. especially in tournaments.
Trying to check the summaries for winnings it is showing all of the tournament $ won.
Also it only seems to show actual $ won for those tournaments that I came in first.
any other winnings are not reflected.
I vote for a netBB verses net $ won.
I am a little confused as to what you are looking for.

If you do not win a tournament your NET win will always be negative. (In terms of tournament chips.)



Quote:
Originally Posted by iWin
Seems like I finally overwelmed P2 with HHs. I got the DB up to about 7 million hands and was enjoying being able to really research some of my regular villians then ...

On a start up P2 notified that my DB would need to be updated and did so. When it was complete there were 0 hands - gone and the following errors x 15 -

The DB is still on the HD (1.08 gigs) but P2 no longer accesses it. I tried to add it back but only about 3 mil hands come back and the program is extremely sluggish. B108 btw.

This is very odd that it wanted to upgrade your database.

One of the features of Prospector is automatic backups.

You can find out about this in the help. It is accessible in the Edit Preferences window under database.

You can restore the database to a previous state, the current default I believe is weekly back ups.

Restore your backup to a previous state and attempt to reimport.

Can you double check a file please?

in C:\Program Files\Prospector2 and check the .vmoptions , open it in Notepad
this number inside it should correspond to the amount of memory you allocated to Prospector Databases.

I beleive you said it was 1024m

thank you.
01-27-2009 , 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
This is very odd that it wanted to upgrade your database.

One of the features of Prospector is automatic backups.

You can find out about this in the help. It is accessible in the Edit Preferences window under database.

You can restore the database to a previous state, the current default I believe is weekly back ups.

Restore your backup to a previous state and attempt to reimport.

Can you double check a file please?

in C:\Program Files\Prospector2 and check the .vmoptions , open it in Notepad
this number inside it should correspond to the amount of memory you allocated to Prospector Databases.

I beleive you said it was 1024m

thank you.
It is indeed 1024. It said it had to update during a normal program startup. I did install the backup which was a week old and gave me back some of my stats. The DB which could not be read still exists on the hard drive but P2 can not access it. Any way to relink it? Any idea what the Java error is stating? It's almost the identical error I get when doing large imports.

Last edited by iWin; 01-27-2009 at 06:00 PM. Reason: typo
01-27-2009 , 11:22 PM
After upgrading to build 1.08, I get an awkward 2:30 min long pause before importing everytime. Approximately 9K hands per batch. What could be the problem?

It stays on the "determining file size" message in the window.
01-28-2009 , 12:58 AM
i'm also getting a long pause when importing
01-30-2009 , 05:37 AM
Not getting a pause when importing but it's a fresh database created in B108.

1) I started by importing hands from a HD. Successful and blazing fast. Then loaded some saved to DVD. Worked. I ejected the DVD and loaded another and got a message that I could not import (via file folder) due to an auto scan in effect. I didn't have the auto scan box checked off. It would not work until I restarted. Once I restarted I was able to import.

2) Tried changing memory settings from 256 to 1024. When I did so I got "The JVM could not be started. The main method may have thrown an exception." I have 2GB. Unfortunately I appear to have mucked things up as I get the same error every time I try to start.
01-30-2009 , 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jere Tristan
After upgrading to build 1.08, I get an awkward 2:30 min long pause before importing everytime. Approximately 9K hands per batch. What could be the problem?

It stays on the "determining file size" message in the window.
Quote:
Originally Posted by grumpy64
i'm also getting a long pause when importing

Quote:
Originally Posted by kidpokeher
Not getting a pause when importing but it's a fresh database created in B108.

1) I started by importing hands from a HD. Successful and blazing fast. Then loaded some saved to DVD. Worked. I ejected the DVD and loaded another and got a message that I could not import (via file folder) due to an auto scan in effect. I didn't have the auto scan box checked off. It would not work until I restarted. Once I restarted I was able to import.

2) Tried changing memory settings from 256 to 1024. When I did so I got "The JVM could not be started. The main method may have thrown an exception." I have 2GB. Unfortunately I appear to have mucked things up as I get the same error every time I try to start.


Hello,

Can you all do the same thing I will outline below:


in C:\Program Files\Prospector2 and check the .vmoptions file , open it in Notepad the number inside it should correspond to the amount of memory you allocated to Prospector Databases.

For example: kidpokeher you will set yours to 1024m

For Jere and grumpy, set the value to 512m

Our next release will hopefully make it so the .vmoptions file is not over written on install.


kidpokeher, for the DVD reading, I will have to look into it and see if I can recreate it.
01-30-2009 , 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iWin
It is indeed 1024. It said it had to update during a normal program startup. I did install the backup which was a week old and gave me back some of my stats. The DB which could not be read still exists on the hard drive but P2 can not access it. Any way to relink it? Any idea what the Java error is stating? It's almost the identical error I get when doing large imports.
There is no way to relink it, as it has most likely become corrupt.

Are the imports you are doing 1 large file or many small files?

If you can send us some of the files that are getting the error, we may be able to better track down the problem.

To save you further headache, you should consider changing your backup schedule to start-up or daily. It will only save the 5 most recent backups, so space should not be an issue.
01-30-2009 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
in C:\Program Files\Prospector2 and check the .vmoptions file , open it in Notepad the number inside it should correspond to the amount of memory you allocated to Prospector Databases.

For example: kidpokeher you will set yours to 1024m
Mine appears to say 1024, or specifically -Xmx1024m. I continue to get the same error at this setting but it did load when I changed it to 512.

I'd like to suggest we be given the option to tell Prospector where we want our databases located during initial installation. Perhaps a simple directory prompt with the subdirectory you currently use as a default, but still allowing us the option to specify a different default directory if we desire.

I'd also like to suggest it "remember" player names we enter in the player comparison box, ideally sorted from most requests to least as opposed to alphabetical sorting.

Also in player comparison, I know it sounds nitty, but it's not very intuitive to have the 'calculate' button over with the list of filters. Seems like something that should be at the top

I was surprised that 256MB memory wasn't enough to load 162K hands in the player hand stats window. I had to change it to 512. Some of your hardcore grinders go through that many hands in just a couple months.

It also feels odd to have to hit the cancel 'x' button in order for changes to be applied to the Customize Graph screen in Player Comparison. I kept looking for an 'Apply' button to use. It'd be nice to have so we can make changes and see them reflected on the graph without having to open the window over and over each time. There's an option on the upper left corner that indicates these options might be 'live synching' but I don't see that happening. Finally, it'd be nice to have that 'Graph Options' box moved over to the left a little or to give us the option to move it. Where it sits currently it obscures the values on the Y-axis.

Edit: I see what's happening with live synching now. It does work but I didn't understand it was currently disabled. How about changing the description under the button to say, "Live synching enabled" and "Live synching disabled"?

Last edited by kidpokeher; 01-30-2009 at 03:49 PM.
01-30-2009 , 06:02 PM
Hi not sure if this is the fault of prospector or not but i refuses to read the hand histories from thepokerhh.com service it just skips over them. Pt3 reads them just fine so i know the files are not corrupt.
02-17-2009 , 03:35 PM
On Mac, the windows used to select a file in the hard drive is not standard (not the one that 95% other apps use) and lacks a lot a features that are very helpful, such as the left panel with "Devices" and "Places" which allow to quickly navigate through shortcuts. Also, the dialog reset to the user's home directory each time it is used rather that remembering the last place a file was selected (which, in many case, is very convenient).

To sum up, this windows clashes with the established way without good reason to do so and make selecting file deep into folder hierarchy painful.
02-18-2009 , 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ExtraCharacter
On Mac, the windows used to select a file in the hard drive is not standard (not the one that 95% other apps use) and lacks a lot a features that are very helpful, such as the left panel with "Devices" and "Places" which allow to quickly navigate through shortcuts. Also, the dialog reset to the user's home directory each time it is used rather that remembering the last place a file was selected (which, in many case, is very convenient).

To sum up, this windows clashes with the established way without good reason to do so and make selecting file deep into folder hierarchy painful.
Ok, I was confused. Prospector file dialog is standart and great. This refers to the current Poker Academy Pro 2 one.
02-19-2009 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Academy
There is no way to relink it, as it has most likely become corrupt.

Are the imports you are doing 1 large file or many small files?

If you can send us some of the files that are getting the error, we may be able to better track down the problem.

To save you further headache, you should consider changing your backup schedule to start-up or daily. It will only save the 5 most recent backups, so space should not be an issue.
Sorry - I missed this reply. The imports, on avg., consisted of 3500+/- small table sized files. I'm not sure which files caused the java errors - the erros only display at the end of import and don't have any other indentifiable info or pointer to a specific file import. Has anyone else reported the java issue? I upgraded to the latest version - maybe I need to go backwards? Which version was PT2 written for?

I did change to start up back up.

It would be great to be able to run "leak reports" on villians - thank you very much
02-20-2009 , 06:26 PM
Hey guys - Sorry if I missed the boat big time on this one - but I would be glad to test this on a mac as well.

Thanks!

-Craig

      
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