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10-30-2015 , 08:00 AM
Is it possible to have some kind of hotness feature added ala flopzilla

I think you can run a report (not 100% sure how but will play around) to find out which turn/river we will be the most on etc

But it would be great if rather than having to flick back and forth in the GUI between different turns there was some visual aid which quickly gave an overview of best/worst turns etc
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10-30-2015 , 09:04 AM
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(not 100% sure how but will play around)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU
(question number 7, see the video description for links)

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to find out which turn/river we will be the most on etc
It also produces EVs/EQs for both ranges for all the runouts.

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But it would be great if rather than having to flick back and forth in the GUI between different turns there was some visual aid which quickly gave an overview of best/worst turns etc
This is on the to do although unlikely to happen in near future.
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11-01-2015 , 12:33 PM
When the preflop gto will be ready?
i would like be able to save the 13x13 grid on excel when running agregates reports

thanks!
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11-01-2015 , 12:48 PM
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When the preflop gto will be ready?
Hard to say. I have a working version already but it's a lot of polishing first and then making it work on distributed architecture. I predict that a version running on one machine is going to be production ready in about 2 weeks but it might be sooner or later, those things are hard to estimate.

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i would like be able to save the 13x13 grid on excel when running agregates reports
I am not sure what you mean here, could you elaborate a bit about what kind of end result you would like to achieve?
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11-01-2015 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Hard to say. I have a working version already but it's a lot of polishing first and then making it work on distributed architecture. I predict that a version running on one machine is going to be production ready in about 2 weeks but it might be sooner or later, those things are hard to estimate.
Could you elaborate on this if possible? Like if this going to be able to run on desktops and if so how will it be abstracted and what memory requirements are we looking at for certain abstractions? Will it be included in pioSolver? Thanks.
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11-01-2015 , 04:43 PM
If I save the tree as "forget rivers", when i load it up, how can i recalculate rivers? Do I need to rerun the whole sim?
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11-01-2015 , 06:27 PM
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i would like be able to save the 13x13 grid on excel when running agregates reports

thanks!
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I am not sure what you mean here, could you elaborate a bit about what kind of end result you would like to achieve?
Lets say i run simulation on X boards , i would the information on each hands (13x13) in each situation being saved in excel.
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11-02-2015 , 06:16 AM
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Could you elaborate on this if possible? Like if this going to be able to run on desktops and if so how will it be abstracted and what memory requirements are we looking at for certain abstractions?
It depends what we're able to implement in what time. It will run on a desktop in some way and it will run on a desktop without that much RAM as well although then always the price is either accuracy or time (because of disc usage).
I am unable to give specific info right now because I just don't know how much I can do and how fast.

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Will it be included in pioSolver? Thanks.
Surely not for free. The business model we have (selling stand alone software with lifetime license) is incompatible with adding all the new things to the same product all the time (because that would mean we end up working for free). It's quite likely to be a separate product but tbh I don't think about business much, I just want to get it working first.

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If I save the tree as "forget rivers", when i load it up, how can i recalculate rivers? Do I need to rerun the whole sim?
It's not a coincidence that smal saves are 50x-100x smaller than the full one - rivers are 98%+ of the data. Recalculating them isn't much of an improvement over calculating from scratch which I recommend. That being said you can do it this way:

1)Tools->Solver->Arbitrary command
2)"rebuild_forgotten_streets" - enter
3)adjust recalc accuracy to something sensible for the purposes of recalculating all rivers (the default is good for recalculating while browsing but way too slow for recalculating all)
4)"solve_all_splits rivers" - enter
5)wait - possibly quite a while depending what you did in step 3)

(don't type quotes in steps 2) and 4))
Again, I don't recommend doing that but it is possible.

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Lets say i run simulation on X boards , i would the information on each hands (13x13) in each situation being saved in excel.
The info is already in the reports (EV/EQ/equity realization for all preflop hands/specific combos) in 1.6 version. It doesn't make nice pictures in Excel though.
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11-02-2015 , 07:23 AM
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The info is already in the reports (EV/EQ/equity realization for all preflop hands/specific combos) in 1.6 version. It doesn't make nice pictures in Excel though.
hi, yes but i have only this info, ev eq etc,
I would like to have all the info in one .txt or excel,

Like after c/c flop what % i have to c/c on turn for each hands.
Any way to open the .cfr file with notepad or?
thanks.
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11-05-2015 , 06:58 PM
Hello,

In response to popular demand we made part of our work on best flop subset to represent the whole game available:
http://piosolver.com/blogs/news/6272...the-whole-game

We hope those are useful for approximating preflop EVs as well as for upcoming preflop solving. More details in the blog post. There will be more results available in the future once those are tested more widely (for both EV approximation and solving).

Have fun!
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11-07-2015 , 08:10 AM
Any chance there will be some sort of node locking for all turns/rivers?
Like underdefending by x% total, (y%raise, z%call) or something like range instructions what to do with certain hands on turn/rivers. f.e. xr turn with all turned 2pairs, pair+fd, Ace high + overcard to 2nd pair, etc?
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11-07-2015 , 05:46 PM
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Like underdefending by x% total,
Yes, although my tests so far showed that it can only be made interesting when applied to rivers. It's just too difficult to change turns and keep rivers sensible.

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or something like range instructions what to do with certain hands on turn/rivers
Maybe but I am skeptical here. It's one of the features playing for not so near future but I am not sure if it could be done in a way to be practically useful. The problem here is that once you apply the conditions like that then the max exploit is usually completely obvious and you end up in a never ending cycle of adjusting/fine tuning the conditions.
Maybe it could be done on turn only though and then let the solver solve the rivers.
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11-08-2015 , 01:09 AM
Is it possible to run scripts on limit holdem trees?

I have successfully run scripts on NL trees but there is no generate script option in the limit tree building panel.
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11-08-2015 , 04:57 AM
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Is it possible to run scripts on limit holdem trees?

I have successfully run scripts on NL trees but there is no generate script option in the limit tree building panel.
Thank you for pointing that out, this will be added in the next release to the GUI.
Meanwhile, the workaround:

1)build a script for NL with all the same parameters (board, time, accuracy etc.) as you would like to have for limit, save that script as limittest.txt
2)go to limit tree building tab, build your configuration, save it (save current parameters)
3)go to TreeBuildingLimit folder and find your config, copy that to clipboard (it should end with "build_tree" line
4)open the limittest.txt file and delete everything from the top to the build_tree line
5)paste the part you copied from limit config in the place of deleted lines

Now you can run that script.
It's not very convenient but that's the way to do it for now.
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11-08-2015 , 07:48 AM
Hello,

We had a problem with Dropbox link which caused the updater to stop working yesterday.
Please download the new one here:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...90236514835682

It also has the default path etc.
Your personal links are unchanged and can still be used a standalone download links as well.
I am sorry for the problems experienced last 2 days.
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11-08-2015 , 01:10 PM
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Thank you for pointing that out, this will be added in the next release to the GUI.
Meanwhile, the workaround:

1)build a script for NL with all the same parameters (board, time, accuracy etc.) as you would like to have for limit, save that script as limittest.txt
2)go to limit tree building tab, build your configuration, save it (save current parameters)
3)go to TreeBuildingLimit folder and find your config, copy that to clipboard (it should end with "build_tree" line
4)open the limittest.txt file and delete everything from the top to the build_tree line
5)paste the part you copied from limit config in the place of deleted lines

Now you can run that script.
It's not very convenient but that's the way to do it for now.
Thanks!

I will give this a try today.

I'm sure you've already noticed, but the generate script button is also not available in the old style tree building panel.

Cheers.
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11-08-2015 , 11:03 PM
I've made an educational video for PioSolver analyzing flop play for CO vs BTN, in case any of you missed the link above


I'm in the process of recording another one right now, but I'd love if some users would give me some suggestions/requests for future vids by sending me a PM.
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11-09-2015 , 01:59 AM
Hi all, I just bought the expensive version...

what do you somewhat/really adept computer program pokers players reccomend for us idiot poker player software users? Like I buy crev and piosolver but i just am not that intrigued bc the complexity stumps me...

log more heads up cash and sng sessions?

just play on it all day like my GF OR HALO 2 circa 2005?

stop smoking weed? I almost have quit only took me 2.5 years

anyways ill post in here more often as from now until the end of nov i am just studying crev and pio solver and not even playing as im getting back/trying to get back into high stakes on jokerstars land...but i feel a few months of study away but close...

gl all you can try to follow my posts along or just laugh as I write the crev and pio solver for dummies version of some of the jedis posts

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11-09-2015 , 12:14 PM
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I've made an educational video for PioSolver analyzing flop play for CO vs BTN, in case any of you missed the link above


I'm in the process of recording another one right now, but I'd love if some users would give me some suggestions/requests for future vids by sending me a PM.
Nice man, thanks I'll check it out
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11-12-2015 , 11:24 AM
Are there any Skype groups/Forums already made where we could discuss working with PioSolver to improve our game?

Tnx
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11-12-2015 , 12:27 PM
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Are there any Skype groups/Forums already made where we could discuss working with PioSolver to improve our game?
We have a Skype group (pm me for a link) which miraculously is over 300 ppl now and apparently at least some Skype users can still join (the formal limit is 300).
We will be setting up a forum in the near future as well.
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11-14-2015 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SiQ

I'm in the process of recording another one right now, but I'd love if some users would give me some suggestions/requests for future vids by sending me a PM.
Advance scripting ! thanks!
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11-14-2015 , 08:00 PM
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Advance scripting ! thanks!
+1. Also would want to see this
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11-16-2015 , 04:30 AM
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Advance scripting ! thanks!
This is probably something I should handle although anything more advanced than "solve N trees on this board with those stacks/ranges and then make an aggregation report on the solutions" really requires some programming experience or at least willingness to learn. Good place to start is here:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...52279746277706

I am still collecting questions for 2nd FAQ video (first one here)

Meanwhile there is a new video on PioSOLVER, this time on DeucesCracked, check it out here:
http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/...?#post_5916635

and a short blogpost, here:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/blogs...-deucescracked

Have fun!
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11-16-2015 , 12:48 PM
Hi, punter11235!
What are the expected release date of preflop-solver?
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