Awesome, thanks. Also, any recommendations on specific services that are available to North Americans? Been looking and have no clue what to look for as far as trustworthiness and ability to install pio(I'd assume all would, but it seems like some only allow certain software?)

Maybe someone could help with that as I am not in North America. The most popular providers among our customers are online.net and ovh.com

They will not police what you run on the server unless you start a spam campaign using their connection or something like that

Hi. Can be made a function to transform an entire file of boards from full tree saves to small tree saves and vice-versa?

I am writing it down and maybe we will add it to the viewer but no promises. You could do it yourself by scripting the solver but it requires some programming.

Probably not. Recalculating all rivers takes about the same time as solving from scratch so you can just as well do that.

Hi,

Let's imagine a spot I set in Piosolver.
For example, let's say I 2barrelled and we are playing the River now.

Where can i read the EV of betting my whole range (not just one combo)?
And the EV of checking my whole range?

Given that Piosolver calculates balanced ranges and plays vs a GTO opponent, does this mean that in the long run, for the river spot described previously, the EV of betting and the EV of checking should be the same?

If something is not clear in my question, feel free to ask me or check my other post which is about the same subject :
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../#post52386930

ty

Go to a bet line (by clicking on it in the tree browser at the top) and then click one of those buttons: https://gyazo.com/364e51cf66597b41244e6e50ae1aa3c1

You will see EV after a bet which is the same as EV of a bet.

Same as above.

Notice that this information isn't very helpful. EV of a bet is usually way higher because the betting range is stronger than checking range. I don't think there is any useful information to obtain from EV of an action for the whole range.

No.
It's only true for hands which mix between checking and betting. Some hands always bet or always check and they have different EV for betting and checking.

ty !

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Hello, Ive just bought an OVH dedicated server but am having some trouble finding out how to start using it with PIOsolver... Are there are tutorials, videos or posts anywhere in this thread that can help me?

Thanks

Hey.
I have some newbie questions and I would appreciate a response!

I'm a midstakes reg and I have a piosolver.
I found out that I can't run sims on BVB spots where ranges are very wide and I would put multiple bet sizings there as well.
I don't have enough memory (I have 8GB).
So I'm thinking that do I upgrade my PC to DDR4 setup, or do I buy more DDR3 ram?
I'm in the process of upgrading my outdated graphics card (Amd Radeon HD4870). Does GPU have big effect on piosolver?

My CPU is Intel i5 2500k. Is this still a very good processor for running piosolver?
Does piosolver utilize multiple cores well?
Is there difference between 4, 6 and 8 cores?

I don't play computer games anymore, so I'm not hesitant to make a huge computer upgrade right now.
So tl;dr: Is Intel i5 2500k "just good enough" for pio?

Once you can access Windows with graphical interface using remote desktop it's easy (just copy your Pio folder there or start the updater there the same way you did on your home computer).

If you have trouble setting remote desktop interface we don't have tutorials for that but googling "how to use windows remote desktop with dedicated server" brings some tutorials (I am not going to link here but there are some step-by-step with pictures on first page of Google search results).

With 8GB you should be able to run trees with 2 sizes at most points but not bigger than that. Those trees are already quite big but somehow it became fashionable to run trees with a lot of sizes, I am not sure if that's the best way as you need to wait a lot for solutions and there isn't much added value from having a lot of sizings available in my view.

RAM speed isn't a bottleneck for Pio so if you can get away with adding more DDR3 RAM (you need empty slots on your motherboard) then that's the best way as DDR3 is cheaper.

It has 0 effect and it will stay that way for foreseeable future.

It's decent but you can easily get 2x to 3x speed-up with modern fast CPU (like hexa core i7 or 1700/1800 Ryzen).
You can run a benchmark, like here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (question number 2)

and see what's the time is. Ryzen 1700 gets sub 5s one. Something like 5820k gets around 6s not overclock but can be overclocked to get much better results.

Yes, pro version uses up to 12 threads in this version and it will be 16 in the next one. It means it will use all the cores in home CPUs.

Yes - the more the better.

The problem is that it's likely not the best time to upgrade. It looks like Intel vs AMD competition is back again and it's likely there will significant price adjustment as well as some new powerful CPUs in the next 1-2 years. I wouldn't upgrade from 2500k right now as it's a big investment for maybe 2.5x speed-up while it's likely you can get more for less in 1-2 years.

Hi,

Last time I asked (maybe late last year) there was talk of implementing a conditional filtering system, similiar to what CREV currently has. I think you guys said this was the next biggest thing you were trying to work on.

Any update on this? I've noticed there hasn't been an update to the software in quite a long time.

Cheers

There were talks and it's in fact one of the features which seems to be important for people.

I don't think we said that. It's one of the things for sure but our plan didn't change much from last year. The nature of our business model is that we can't just add features forever to the existing product and we need to take some time aside to develop new things. That's the consequence of not having subscription based model.

With some luck we will be releasing something new this month. The plans after that are not yet set but 1.10 version of the current solver is planned as well.

Hi, I would like to buy pio solver basic. I only have a 2015 Macbook Pro Retina Display which has 8gb of ram. I have parallel windows and I can probably give 4gb of the ram for use on this. Will I be able to use Pio Basic on this machine?

Yes although you will be quite limited when it comes to trees with multiple bet sizes. With one bet size you will be fine. I recommend downloading our free version, it solves one flops these days (Qs Jh 2h) so you can test the performance/trees you are able to build.

It's a good idea to assign more cores to Prallels as well (the default is 1 core I believe).

Hi,

A few questions :

1. I have in mind that in order to set up a GTO strategy, we should only mix +EV actions (and not include -EV actions for the only purpose of balancing) : is that right?

2. In this thread, we discuss an example of Pio analysis (post is http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...49&postcount=8).
In this example, Piosolver incorporates -EV actions in his plays.
I imagined it is because calculations stopped because it reached the desired accuracy.
Which would mean that if the calculations continued until reaching the perfect equilibrium, these -EV plays would disappear.
What do you think about that?

3. I am currently studying another River spot where Piosolver includes in the shoving range bluffing combos whose shoving EV is negative.
Is there any other reason than calculations stopped too early for this?

ty

Yes. Moreover only the best (EV-wise) actions should be mixed.

That's a matter of accuracy. The plays might be -EV against the current approximation of the opponent's GTO. That of course wouldn't be the case in a perfect equilibrium but it is what it is with not perfect ones.

Yes, although Pio doesn't get to a perfect equilibrium (unless it's a really simple game). It gets pretty close though.

No.

Hi, i have a problem with the reports. The values on the reports are different from the ones on pio.
For example as you can see on the second image, on the report there is a cbet of 54.15% but on the solver the % is 72.62.In the last image the oop ev is 7.53 and it's clearly wrong.How can i fix?
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Reports aggregate so the values there are averages across many turns/rivers (or flops in case of multifile ones).
Anyway, to tell more I need more information. Your screenshot don't show as they are private on your Google Drive. You need to upload them using some kind of public uploading service and link.

Ok.Now i upload the link.

http://imgur.com/11wUUwZ
In column I the % of bet is 54.15.
On pio as u can see is 72.62.
http://imgur.com/83zMdh0

http://imgur.com/PgVQLlo

In this tree for example the ev of oop is 7.53 and the pot is 50.

I hope that u understood my issue.

Hi,

I'm trying to reduce my memory needs for preflop calcs (mostly 6max IP v BB) as much as possible, and have tried to keep my preflop and postflop trees simple.

Will starting with a smaller OOP range that excludes obvious folds like T2o-42o produce ranges almost identical to ones I'd get starting with a 100% range, or will my results be different/invalid?

Thanks.

It's difficult to tell without seeing the actual tree. Can you please send us the config, like that:

1)go to treebuilding and calculation tab
2)make sure the config is filled in
3)click "copy to clipboard" button
4)paste either to email (support@piosolver.com) or pastebin.com and link

This way I can recreate the tree myself and try to reproduce the issue.
Are you sure you only have the saves from that script available in your folder?

The only gain is from removing hands which aren't in IP range either. The results will be valid although overall EV won't be (as folds with hands not in range are not counted anymore) but that's not a big problem.

Hi,

Is there a known bug with this feature : "Plugins / Multiple Runouts / Flops aggregation Plugin / include hands in report"?

I do it at ROOT, and in the Hand column, instead of listing OOP's hands, it lists IP's hands.

And for any IP's hand which is not in OOP's range, it puts "NaN" instead of the equity or frequency.