Relatively new to using piosolver. Was wondering for post flop solutions, how can I run multiple trees one after another (to around 0.5% exploitativity) to see the results of the trees afterwards? Was wondering what the most time efficient way is to go about this.

EDIT: Restarted Pio and it works now.

Hey punter, the settings of the Caculation tab (flop/turn/river) does apply only on solved saves (very small/small) or it is used when we solve a postflop tree from scratch? I mean i dont see why it has a flop setting since one can either save it as a very small or small save both in which flop is already solved.

It's the best to either use the form here:
http://piocloud.******.com/

or contact PioCloud on Skype (piocloud). The service is run by our friend who works with us but we are not exactly up to speed with all the packs/options offered so he is in better position to answer those questions.

That's what scripts are for (available in the pro version). There is a simple tutorial, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (questino number 6)

It's used for recalculation when you browse small saves. The flop setting is there because I thought there will be micro saves for preflop (only preflop with flops recalculated) but then I decided not to include it as it didn't seem very useful. As of now flop recalculation accuracy setting does nothing but it may change in the future.

I also have a feature request regarding recalculations: since the solver has some dificulty in achieving certain accuracy on straight runouts (usualy in multiple betsizes configs), I suggest a "stop after n seconds" feature on Calculation tab also. This way, we could set a good generic river accuracy in % of pot (which can be obtain for most runnuots) and for those straight boards, when it gets back and forth, we can have a time frame in place.

Yes, this is a good idea. There is actually a limit (not time but number of steps) but it's way too high right now.

I am interested in purchasing as well as promotion PIO Solver.
Is there a way to purchase it with Stars p2p transfer or Skrill?
I don't have any balance on PayPal nor I have working credit card (I work with cash only).

Appreciate your response in advance!

Ryzen support only up to 64gb ram?

Makes me worried abit about ryzen then, because the motherboards allows you to use 4xddr4

PM or email support@piosolver.com please, we may be able to find some solution.

Yes but from what I've read there should be "enterprise" version (similar to what Xeon is for i7 chips) and that will support more RAM and you will be able to build dual/quad box with them.

I get an error nessage "The provided key was not found in the directory"https://gyazo.com/377d549b77a6643620d578c2b5a48e61 When I do cllink in Runnouts aggregated frequencies analysis over muktipple files

I am not 100% sure what that error means exactly (as it's not in English) but usual things to check when running multifile aggregation reports are:

1)are only saves from the same config in the folder?
2)is there only one script file there?
3)double check 1) and 2)

If it still doesn't work please email support@piosolver.com

Hi!

Lately I bought Pio Solver edge. I try to run some preflops trees but everytime I try to solve after 5-40 minutes of solving I get this problem: Solver process died with error code -1073741819 Could you help me what that mean? Thanks!

The solver is very stable and rare reports we get about it crashing during solving are almost always one of the two:

-some kind of antivirus doing their scan and messing up with the memory
-hardware problems (usually RAM which you can test using various tools you can find online)

That being said we always try to re-create and help with those cases. I will need the config of the tree so I can build it locally and solve. You can get the config by clicking here: https://gyazo.com/0b9fb9447731a59b2c9e4abe2004e24b

Feel free to pm me/email support@piosolver.com so I can give you my Skype sn and try to help you there. If it crashes during solving though it's 99.9% that the above mentioned things are to blame.

hey punter, ive notice that when the solver has to solve a bunch of postflop trees in a row, the first few trees are build normal/quick but as it advances (trough the script trees) it takes longer and longer to build the next tree. Is this a known behavior? Is there someting to do about?

Hello,

Node locker doesn`t consider hands weight changes after earlier streets action when you`re node-locking strategy on later streets.

So for example after action went bet - call on the flop and you want to node-lock turn strategy of one of the players NL still consider all hands have 100% weight in player`s range.

Thanks.

The reason for this behavior is that Windows allocation and dealacation functions are very slow when there are lot of small allocations/deallocations. There isn't much you can do about it other than splitting a script into smaller ones and restart the solver between executing them (it's possible to do it in a batch file so it's automatic). We may add a custom allocator at some point to go around this problem.

There is a difference between strategy (what we should with a given hand assuming w have it at some point) and range (how often we have a given hand at given point).

Node locking tool uses strategy because locking a range doesn't make much sense (the play before locked node may change and you would be arriving with a different range t to a locked node). That's why you lock strategy which is independent of range and exists even for hands which never get to a given decision node at the moment. The reason the strategy still need to exist for those hands is that the solver needs to know what every hand would do at every point so it can assess EVs of every choice and choose the better one.

I hope that clears things up. It's very important to understand that strategy (what to do with a given hand at given point) and range (how often a hand reaches a certain) point are different concepts.

Yeah thanks, it makes sense. Thought I have software bug or smth.

What is like a "top tier" benchmark time (bench command)? Something that would help to evaluate the performance would be very helpfull. I get like 5.5s with the post solver, it's probably decent but is there any merit in pushing it further?

Hi, I am trying to find a hardware solution for saving the trees and also one that PIO would be able to use.
I am open to any suggestions, internal HDs, external drives, etc.
However, I was already suggested a NAS , something like >this<

And I think it might be the best solution, so I could also use it for movies, photos, etc.
If it really is so, what writing/reading speeds can I expect and what do I have to be careful about? (Router, cables, etc.) - asking because I am a complete noob.

Budget is up to 1k and I'd like to get at least 5TB+ of storage... What would you suggest?

Why My resolution stop at the flop? :O




And where I fond strategy node?

5.5s is very good. 16 core Xeon @ 2.6Ghz I am using gets 3s. Th problem is that dualbox setups are quite expensive and offer terrible performance/price ratio so it's likely not worth it to purse faster hardware. Maybe it's worth it to rent it for a while though.

I know very little about hardware especially hardware for stoarage purposes. I think it's a good question for our Skype group as several people there are way more knowledgeable about hardware than me.

It doesn't "stop" there but I see that you don't have "refresh on new selection" checkbox checked so you need to refresh it every time you want results in a new place in the tree. I recommend using our quick start video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnzFpjSr3Lk

(the quick start video goes over basic functionality and the most important options of the solver)
as well as this quesitons from the FAQ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ozjfnatwms (quesiton numbre 9)

Strategy (what to do with every hand at given point) can only be shown in decision nodes as it only makes sense there. You at the end of the tree, no more decisions are there to be made so straegy doesn't exist. If you go one node back you will see strategy against a bet of 33 (fold or call).

Hello,

So here's what I try to do: My friend sent me a postflop solution, wich he calculated, and I try to load that with pioSolver Free. I get an error message:

However If I load the same solution with piosolver Edge, it works.
Can you please help me with that?

Thank you!

The free version won't load saves from commercial versions as it doesn't solve flop/preflop (with the exception of one: Qs Jh 2h).

hi punter,
lets say i solve a postflop tree @ 3bb/100.
How does this exploitability spreads through the tree?
1) do we have the same 3bb exploit in every decision node,
2) does it spreads accros all nodes so that in any particular node we have a fraction of the total 3bb?
3) if 2 is true then its a linear spread or as we progress through the tree, the fraction increases/decreases?

Thank you for your answer.
I have an other question:
One difference between pro & basic is that the pro is "fully scriptable" what does this exactly mean? what commands are exclusive for the pro version? I'd guess that show_strategy, and things like this are available for the basic version as well?

Thank you!