Yeah, I was just being technical And affirming that his intuition about IP "knowing" is correct

does piosolver have/will have icm support in the future?

The reason ICM wasn't implemented until now is that equilibrium in non-zero sum games is a very shaky concept. What I mean by it is that there might exist multiple equilibria with different payoffs. Some of them might be very bad for IP player, some may be very bad for OOP player and some might be somewhere in the middle. It means that playing an equilibirum strategy might be a terrible idea.

While this, in theory, is also true for rake which we implemented, the rake is usually small enough to make this effect minimal. With ICM, especially in spots where it becomes important, it's the whole different story.

That being said it seems there is demand for that feature so it will be there in the future. We will add a disclaimer about assuming that equilibirum = optimal. There are probably a lot of interesting things to see even if they are not very useful in practice.

hi punter, I'm reiterating my requests in hope they'll catch the next release:

- in ''browse'' tab, when click the ''strategy'' button, the solver should display with bold characters the 1 pair+ hands; same for ''range explorer'' tab;

- also in ''range explorer'' tab the ''all combos'' button should display the same thing as the ''strategy'' button in ''browse'' tab.

thx!

p.s. the option of showing average line freq when browsing creates huge lags on big trees so please make it uncheked by default! it took me days to realise this...

We make a notice of all feature requests. We then prioritize them. As we get hundreds of them it's natural that some things make it and some don't. How much the request is repeated doesn't influence its priority (although how many other people mention it does influence it).

That's one common request. There is a slight technical problem with that ("checking range doesn't always check" problem) but displaying strategy in Range Explorer might be available at some point.

Are you at 1.9.2 version? It was optimized a lot in 1.9 although definitely could still be a problem if your trees are humongous.

What should i do? Sorry probabbly this question was asked milion times by now but i have been trying to make this work for a day now. Can it be because it is a free veriosn? I can't find any preflop_browser.exe
http://imgur.com/a/gi4p4
http://imgur.com/a/QPhVW

Hi,
does by any chance has someone a
AMD 8350 4k ghz
processor?

If so, could you make a speed test?
Tools-->Solver-->run arbitrage solver command-->solver console---> write bench--> send

I could get one but I am not sure how fast it is in comparsion to mine.
Or to a random i7. In one video piosolver guy made this test: His result was 9,78s (He has afaik a old i7)

Thanks in advance

The free version isn't able to load saves from commercial versions.

AMD CPUs are very slow. I don't have access to this exact one but I expect it around 3x times slower than a modern i7. You could still try to run the test but my experience with AMD CPUs is that all of them are way slower for the purposes of the solver than published benchmarks indicate.
I still haven't seen benchmarks for the newest Zen generation though.

Why I cannot see data presentation in percentages on squares under browser tab when I click Strategy+EV? I already tried to tick everything under configuration/data presentation/totals and averages. It says on the right side "can't display real frequencies".

I am not sure what do you mean, can you make a screenshot? (preferably the whole browser tab). Usual reasons for overall frequencies not being visible is too small a window for too many bet sizes although that was improved a lot in 1.9.

I have pio solver basic and can't find node lock. Where should it be located?

The layout of the menu changed in 1.9 version (there were too many options so we needed to split it). It's located in:

Tree->set strategy and lock node

You can also bring it up by hitting ctrl+N

So, I miss raise, call, fold numbers in those squares.

You need to make 13x13 area bigger, the numbers appear once here is enough space for minimum size font. You can try two things:

1)make the whole PioViewer window bigger
2)move the vertical bar between 13x13 area and the overall frequencies aread to the right.

You should easily be able to make them visible with only possible actions.

Hi punter,

I have been looking at purchasing either piosolver or simplepostflop. Both seem similar but pio seems a lot cheaper and has better customer service. Do you (or anyone else) know the main differences between what SPF and pio can do to help me make my decision?

Also, I really like the SPF preflop solutions library. I was wondering why pio doesn't have a similar service? How feasible is it really to solve preflop spots with pio edge with a high accuracy like the SPF solutions library?

Thanks!

Edit: I downloaded the free version and get this error message when trying to connect: "The specified executable is not a valid application for this OS platform." What am I doing wrong?

I can't get it to work on my 15" laptop (tried the things you advised), when I drag the window to my extended bigger monitor display it works. Can you make it to work also on smaller displays in the next update?

We would rather not have discussion about our competition in this thread. The place for it is outside so it can be unbiased. Discussion about differences between the developers happened before and we concluded it's better to let others make a judgement on neutral platform. I hope you understand
You can find more about features of Pio:
-on our development blog: http://piosolver.myshopify.com/blogs/news
-in videos/FAQS, here: http://piosolver.myshopify.com/pages/faq-videos
-googling for other videos/people who use it

This thread is for supporting our software.

To be honest I don't even know what that is. It would be nice if you describe the service instead of naming the competition
If it's about preflop solutions we don't provide them with our software (as it takes a lot of money and time to solve a lot of big trees) but some people run services where they solve a lot of spots and sell the solutions, for example our friend at PioCloud:

http://piocloud.******.com/

Notice that since 1.9 release you just need a basic version to read preflop saves.

You need 64-bit Windows to run it (32bit Windows is not really feasible as it's too limited and isn't able to use the modern hardware fully).
That's the most likely reason, the other could be that you don't have Net Framework installed, it's here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=42642

It's about resulotion, not display size. It works without problems on my 12.5'' laptop for example. The problem is that if there is not enough space for minimum size font it will just not display. Still, for just 3 actions it should work. Try checking if you are not using 150% scaling for example.

Right OK, sorry for the inappropriate questions. It's working now so thank you

I'm using smaller-100% (default) option, my resolution is 1440x900. Maybe It should be bigger to show those numbers, whats yours?

I had the same issue but it appear to be solved after I clicked the "<" button next to strategy button and then back again strategy...

Are the preflop flop sets specifically designed to model preflop play, and are they less accurate for postflop work than the kuba flop sets of similar sizes?

Mine is 1080p so a bit wider. I will add that to the to-do list but I can't promise it's going to happen in the near future.

They are optimized for the best approximation using various metrics:
-approximating EV of trees solved on 1755 flops in various spots/starting ranges
-equity against various ranges (100%, 50%, 10%, AA only etc.)

That should make them quite good for variety of purposes.

Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere but I didn't see it in the tutorial videos I've watched or after browsing here...

I'm trying to run a postflop scenario but over a variety of flops. Preferrably a large flop subset like the ones in the preflop tree building tab.

I want the ranges for OOP and IP to be locked in as I enter them so I don't need a preflop tree build.

Can I do this? I was hoping in the section where you select the flop cards you could select a flop subset, but I don't see that.

You need to generate a script to do that. It's explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 6)

Instead of generating random flops (like in this video) you can just copy-paste one of the subsets there.

Awesome, thanks. I think I'm almost there.

After the script runs for all of the flops, is there a way to browse the EVs of each range over the entire range of flops? I'm seeing I can open each flop individually and browse the EVs of each combo. I want to be able to see the total EV over all flops.