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Old 05-23-2012, 03:29 AM   #16
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Hopefully NthingtoLose can post his review today.

It's early, and we've only sold 12 packs so far, but everyone seems pretty satisfied. The pack will be $50 for the next ~20 hours from now, then it jumps to $75 for a week. After that it goes to $125. If you've purchased NoteCaddy, but don't use it, don't pass up this opportunity to get it for $50. There's not much risk involved and so much to gain from this.

It will help your game in many ways, even if you are already crushing. For me personally, I play way less of a robotic, boring, ABC style since incorporating this into my game. I just find so many ways to exploit people, that were so hard to find before. For me, this makes poker not only fun again...but a lot more profitable too.

This pack is specifically designed for 6max NL, and full stacks. However, if you play full ring, PLO, or short stack, many of the defs are still valid as they are, and others can be modified fairly easily (I can also help with this via Skype).

We promise to give the best support we can. We also plan to have a friendly community of NCE users that will help each other with all aspects of the game.

If you're serious about your game and want to improve, this is your opportunity.
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How do I grab a copy for $50?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:07 AM   #18
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:43 PM   #19
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No complaints so far!

We are adding 1 free custom definition per package. If we like your definition we may even add it to our pack! If you don't want it to be included, you can always purchase it.
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hey, looks pretty cool. Interested in buying soon.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:49 AM   #21
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Hello,
I bought the package a couple days ago, because 50 bucks seem to be a fair price considering all the work you will have, if you set up Notecaddy yourself. I bought Notecaddy (NC) 2 weeks ago, and I didnīt have the time to work through it myself. Notecaddy isnīt a Out-of-the-Box-product at all, because the info you gain from NC is overwhelming, specially if you play more than 4 tables. It simply comes with too many notes, thatīs why makes it quite difficult to find the right info scrolling through 100 notes while timing out. So you really need to setup preferences to use NC.
Setting up preference in NC is actually easy, but when you use NC, you actually wanna have visualized villains tendencies. For instance you want to see graphs, that give you accurate info about betsizing and value.
Notecaddy also generates these so called batches, that makes it easy to spot villains leaks.
And here the troubel begins, because setting NC up in the way to use visuals is really a pain in the a...sss.

I found NoteCaddyEdge (NCE) and hoped to find a product, that does the whole setup part for me. And indeed, the single steps are very well explained in the installation guide, and you actually canīt go wrong with it. Setting NCE up took me about an hour.

What you are getting is as said in an above thread a well-thought product, but it will take a soem experience to gain any value from it to be honest. NCE comes with two predetermined HUDs. These HUDs have basicly two parts: The standard HEM HUD, giving you all relevant statistics - and the NC HUD, showing you relevant specific Batches, that visualize villain-specific leaks. For example, if a villain never folds to 3-bets, you will see a batch below the HUD, that basicly says, "he calls 3-bets way too often".
So far so good.

When I first tried it, I felt like a kid who should fly an airplane. The provided HUDs are very complex, using different colours for different ranges a.s.o.. So you basicly get 25 stats, in different colours and you have no idea what they all mean. On top of that, below the HUD you see up to 20 different badges showing up, given you overwhelming info which is pretty difficult to handle, even if you only play a few tables.

For me personally, I always used a simple HUD in the beginning and added single stats from time to time, as I moved up in stakes. So I know my HUD in and out, and any stat I use for a reason. So of course, the next step was to get my old HUD to work combined with the badges part. This worked well, but still I am struggling, because you clearly have to learn what all the badges mean.
I am going to reduce the amount of badges at next, and add additional badges from time to time, and I think, thatīs the way to do it, to get the most out of NCE. But as said, this will take some experience.

I like the idea, and I will use it for sure, but to gain value out of this clearly needs some time and effort. What you also need to consider before buying it: a HUD including 10 badges is almost twice as large as a normal HUD, so if the site you are playing doesnīt provide enough space, you wontībe able to use it in full. I play at ongame, and at ongame for example itīs already difficult. Actually in the first session I had AA, wanted to raise, but I couldnīt because some villains badges on the raise button. So always, when I pushed raise, it opened the HUD-popup.

Also when you are multitabling and tables become smaller on your screen, the HUD might not fit on your screen. But the info you gain by NCE is imo too compley for multitablers.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think, NCE only covers the batches part on NC. I hoped to find also some notecaddy graphs (visualized ranges, betsizing-value diagramm...), but as far as I see, they donīt come with notecaddyedge. Not sure, if this will come due an update in the future. I really would love to see this.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:05 AM   #22
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Hello,
I bought the package a couple days ago, because 50 bucks seem to be a fair price considering all the work you will have, if you set up Notecaddy yourself. I bought Notecaddy (NC) 2 weeks ago, and I didnīt have the time to work through it myself. Notecaddy isnīt a Out-of-the-Box-product at all, because the info you gain from NC is overwhelming, specially if you play more than 4 tables. It simply comes with too many notes, thatīs why makes it quite difficult to find the right info scrolling through 100 notes while timing out. So you really need to setup preferences to use NC.
Setting up preference in NC is actually easy, but when you use NC, you actually wanna have visualized villains tendencies. For instance you want to see graphs, that give you accurate info about betsizing and value.
Notecaddy also generates these so called batches, that makes it easy to spot villains leaks.
And here the troubel begins, because setting NC up in the way to use visuals is really a pain in the a...sss.

I found NoteCaddyEdge (NCE) and hoped to find a product, that does the whole setup part for me. And indeed, the single steps are very well explained in the installation guide, and you actually canīt go wrong with it. Setting NCE up took me about an hour.

What you are getting is as said in an above thread a well-thought product, but it will take a soem experience to gain any value from it to be honest. NCE comes with two predetermined HUDs. These HUDs have basicly two parts: The standard HEM HUD, giving you all relevant statistics - and the NC HUD, showing you relevant specific Batches, that visualize villain-specific leaks. For example, if a villain never folds to 3-bets, you will see a batch below the HUD, that basicly says, "he calls 3-bets way too often".
So far so good.

When I first tried it, I felt like a kid who should fly an airplane. The provided HUDs are very complex, using different colours for different ranges a.s.o.. So you basicly get 25 stats, in different colours and you have no idea what they all mean. On top of that, below the HUD you see up to 20 different badges showing up, given you overwhelming info which is pretty difficult to handle, even if you only play a few tables.

For me personally, I always used a simple HUD in the beginning and added single stats from time to time, as I moved up in stakes. So I know my HUD in and out, and any stat I use for a reason. So of course, the next step was to get my old HUD to work combined with the badges part. This worked well, but still I am struggling, because you clearly have to learn what all the badges mean.
I am going to reduce the amount of badges at next, and add additional badges from time to time, and I think, thatīs the way to do it, to get the most out of NCE. But as said, this will take some experience.

I like the idea, and I will use it for sure, but to gain value out of this clearly needs some time and effort. What you also need to consider before buying it: a HUD including 10 badges is almost twice as large as a normal HUD, so if the site you are playing doesnīt provide enough space, you wontībe able to use it in full. I play at ongame, and at ongame for example itīs already difficult. Actually in the first session I had AA, wanted to raise, but I couldnīt because some villains badges on the raise button. So always, when I pushed raise, it opened the HUD-popup.

Also when you are multitabling and tables become smaller on your screen, the HUD might not fit on your screen. But the info you gain by NCE is imo too compley for multitablers.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think, NCE only covers the batches part on NC. I hoped to find also some notecaddy graphs (visualized ranges, betsizing-value diagramm...), but as far as I see, they donīt come with notecaddyedge. Not sure, if this will come due an update in the future. I really would love to see this.
Hi MomWasRight,

First off thank you for the purchase and the review! It seems you are having some difficulty getting the notecaddy popups to show up because you are using your own HUD. I tried to make the HUDs fairly small. I only play 6 tables at a time, so if you play a lot more with smaller tables I can see how they could be too large. If you are using your own HUD, you will need to manually add the popups into your HUD, then you will see the Notecaddy Popups showing spark graphs, etc. I also had another person say that he needed to reduce the size of the HUD, so I will create another HUD that is smaller, and I will send it out in the next update this weekend. I will make a document to explain the HM2 HUD stats for each HUD as well. For now, if you don't know what the numbers mean you can go into HM2, select HUD Options, select the HUD you are using and you can see the HM2 stats there. To add popups for your own HUD, click Stat Appearance, and select an EDGE popup for each stat.

If you are having trouble adding the popups, or can't get the notecaddy popups to show up, please add me on skype if you havent: notecaddy.edge, and I will help you through it. I'd love to help you get this working properly as the popups are very important in my opinion to go along with the badges.

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Great! Please let me know any concerns or questions.

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Old 05-25-2012, 04:25 PM   #24
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Per customer request we have added a new HUD to the pack. This HUD is designed for players with less table space. It has some of the stats taken out, and is divided into 2 panels, 1 for the basic HUD and 1 for the badges. Hope you like it!

Also the new updated pack was just sent out with 3 new definitions, 1 new HUD, a document to explain all HUDs, and made sure all definitions are clicked to work with PLO.

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A site named PokerUtility (google it) has given us a review of Notecaddy Edge and named us their 'Featured Poker Tool', if you are looking for more information. The price on their website is listed at $125, but the price on our site is $75 until May 31st.

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Old 05-27-2012, 10:23 PM   #26
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Hi,
We put a video up on youtube showing Notecaddy Edge. We aren't great video makers or even close to it, but it should give you a preview of what's included with it. You can view the video on our website, which you can find in my profile by clicking my name. The video is in the 'Learn More' section. You can also search "Notecaddy Edge" on youtube and it should come up that way.

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Old 05-29-2012, 09:07 AM   #27
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Hi All,
Sorry for the delay I had a death in my extended family and spent the last week in North Carolina.. I'd like to say I have zero stake or interest in either notecaddy edge or note caddy advantage and this is just an unbiased review of what I saw.

I now have had two full weekends of grinding using Notecaddy Edge.

Install: Install went very easy and very smooth. It comes with documentation that a monkey could get it installed.

HUD: It comes with two huds.. They are more new age huds that does street by street and is organized very logically. I have my own HUD i have spent a long time designing and I will say implementing the badges and definitions into my own HUD was very simple. So although it comes with two pre built in HUDs it is def not mandatory to use them. I think the developer could easily add more HUDs to make this package even more attractable. The install directions do explain how to implment the popups into your own HUD which was nice because I honestly wasn't switching my HUD going into this. Lite Hud > Edge Hud but I'll let people see for themselves. If your still using a VIPIP, PFR, 3b, AG HUD this would open your eyes a lot.

No Blind Level Restrictions & Adjustments allowed!!: The very first thing I noticed with this compared to Notecaddy Advantatage was it was not set to specific blind levels with modifications to the presets allowed!!.. This was REALLY a game changer for me. I have been in this gig a long long time and definitely not everything fits into a nice cookie cutter. What I mean by that is both playing styles and game selection require adjustments. For one I play a pretty loose style and the ranges I'm up against are usually a little looser than standard as well subsequently. Being able to make my own slight modiciations to a great framework was a breath of fresh air.. Its like handing someone hundreds of hours of work to build this definition package but then saying, "You are smart enough now to take this huge jump ahead and tweak it." Then if your not ready to tweek it yet because your game is not that sophisticated it is still not needed. I went thru literally every single definition parameters to see how the designer was thinking. The presets would be fine out of the box for many cash game players.

Note caddy advantage comes with blind limitations. This package allows for it to be applicable to all blind levels. When dealing with badges like one and done for example, it is very applicable to other forms of poker as well like sit and gos or tournaments. NCA does not allow any tournament or sit and go play with their package which is a huge draw back in my opinion. Lack of blind level restrictions also allows flexibility if you have many levels of cash to play or if you want to take a shot or two which is pretty standard if a game calls for it. It took me under an hour to select and adjust and copy various definitions to tournament/sit and go scenarios. Even if i didn't take that time just looking at the badges in tournaments that come preset would still be super useful. Although designed for 6 max cash some of these needed zero adjusment and I just went in and set the settings to apply to full ring, 6 max and tourny play.

The bad: The install directions say make inactive all the current definitions and color codes. I did this, however after all the defs were in I noticed a few of my own custom defs I wanted on top of this package. I had to go back in and mark them back to active. Took under 15 mins, just thought I'd throw it out there that you don't need to make all inactive as far as I can tell to install the package itself.

Color coding: The package offers color coding built in. This is super useful especially if you have never done this on your own to be able to see it in practice may be a game changer for you. I know my brain can pick up exploits much faster when things are color coded. It did take me awhile to adjust to the new colors as I already had my own color code built in. After about an hour though of playing it became a non-issue.

I would say this is out of the box software for a ton of players especially 200nl and down. I think MANY players would understand how to exploit better just reading thru all the badges and defs and then actively trying to use the strategies in them. Might have some light bulb, "Ah Hah!" moments.

The other bad cuts both ways. What I mean is it comes with a nice document explaining every badge exploit. I could follow it, however there was zero pragmatic use of this document in real time if your playing a bunch of tables. After my first session I realized I really needed to study this sheet for awhile just to memorize all the badges. The good part is a lot of the badges icon represents what the badge means. For example there is a badge specific to fold vs raise on a flop and the badge has a vR in the middle of it. Intuitively made it easy to start working them out. The designer uses consistent style in all the badges so this at least made it easy to start making sense of them all.

I would recommend this package and again I have no incentive to do or not recommend this package. This is not something that was sloppily thrown together. Note caddy is just OK but, this package makes it on steroids. The foundation it sets is well worth the price and I'd be burning money to re-create what they did for personal use compared to the time saved. Gl to all at the tables and if people want to ask me questions feel free to post them itt.

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Hey Nthing,

My condolences for your recent loss.

Thank you a lot for the review. That was very thorough and complete. I'm very pleased that you recommend the package.

Best of luck,
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Just to address a few things that NthingToLose pointed out:

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I think the developer could easily add more HUDs to make this package even more attractable.
This was a nice suggestion, we added 1 more HUD, so we have 3 total now. We will try to add some more of different styles for the future.

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The bad: The install directions say make inactive all the current definitions and color codes. I did this, however after all the defs were in I noticed a few of my own custom defs I wanted on top of this package. I had to go back in and mark them back to active. Took under 15 mins, just thought I'd throw it out there that you don't need to make all inactive as far as I can tell to install the package itself.
You are right, I modified the instructions to say to make inactive all the definitions you won't be using anymore.

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The other bad cuts both ways. What I mean is it comes with a nice document explaining every badge exploit. I could follow it, however there was zero pragmatic use of this document in real time if your playing a bunch of tables. After my first session I realized I really needed to study this sheet for awhile just to memorize all the badges. The good part is a lot of the badges icon represents what the badge means. For example there is a badge specific to fold vs raise on a flop and the badge has a vR in the middle of it. Intuitively made it easy to start working them out. The designer uses consistent style in all the badges so this at least made it easy to start making sense of them all.
You are spot on with this. It would be very hard to use this document while you are actually playing. This needs to be read through, maybe a couple times, to get full value out of it. You're right, by studying this a bit you can understand how to use the badges and how to recognize what they stand for or represent. It definitely will take a little bit of studying but, in my opinion, it will be well worth the time spent.
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Have only implemented a few defs so far since i had a fairly large library of definitions previously. But the package is pretty much a steal at this price and Nostra is incredibly quick and helpful if you have any issues. Thoroughly recommend.
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