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Old 03-15-2014, 04:15 PM   #1
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The New Turbo SeatIN v3 - PokerStars, 888, iPoker, MicroGaming and WPN Seating Tool!!



www.turbo-seatin.com

+++ The market standard for seating! +++
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www.turbo-seatin.com: Extensive tutorials +++
+++ Check out our new version: Turbo SeatIN v3 is now faster and more reliable than ever before +++
+++ This version supports PokerStars, iPoker, 888Poker, MicroGaming AND WPN! +++


- The FASTEST seating program out there. No other software out there beats our software in speed and reliability.
- Gain in Speed results from a better, completely different, scanning technology. Information are directly extracted from RAM, instead of scanned via images.

Your ADVANTAGE:
- Huge speed INCREASE. Now we are not talking about milliseconds, but about one millisecond. Beats the hell out of other software out there.

- NEARLY no increase in computer resources usage! On my computer, scanning 20 tables only costs 4% of CPU usage.

- A RELIABLE solution compared to the technology used out there. You can turn on avatar pictures and display stats using other software. Just make sure you have selected the RIGHT layout and actions in our option menu in the software. THAT’S ALL!


Make sure you check out this our latest version: DOWNLOAD

The new version currently supports PokerStars, iPoker, 888Poker, MicroGaming AND WPN!

Turbo SeatIN - The Seating Software for PokerStars, iPoker, 888Poker, MicroGaming AND WPN



Allowed on PokerStars

Turbo SeatIN is on the list of approved software on PokerStars, you won't have to endanger your account with unapproved software.

http://www.pokerstars.eu/poker/room/prohibited/

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- Detect color coded and unknown opponents
- Take the best seat in milliseconds
- Play an alarm and send an e-mail notification
- Modify software to play your own alarm sounds
- Automatically close open and full tables
- SmartReserve (PokerStars): Only reserves you twice to a table, no 6 hours wait to join a table anymore!

Support for all variants, the most popular Layouts and all table sizes



No matter if you play no-limit, PLO, fixed limit, shorthanded, 9-max or fullring, Turbo SeatIN will work.

We support the most popular layouts on PokerStars: Black Layout, Nova Layout, Classic Layout, Mercury Layout and Hyper Simple layout.

Check how long your license will run



Setting up Turbo SeatIN

Turbo seat in is easy to configure and ready to go in less than 2 minutes. Watch the tutorial video on our website for more information.

TUTORIAL VIDEOS

Flexible prices

We price our software according to the limits you play and the sites you play.

Mid Stakes (up to NL 800, PLO 800, FL 8/16) - 100$/month
High Stakes (up to NL 2000, PLO 2000, FL 20/40) - 250$/month
Nose Bleed Stakes (over NL 2000, over PLO 2000, over FL 20/40) - 500$/month

Prices are for one site. No need to pay hundreds of dollars for sites, which you don't even use. Support for each additional site costs only 50%.

Trial download and contact information

Turbo SeatIN v3: DOWNLOAD

Get your one week free trial. The trial will start automatically! No need for an extra trial key or registration! Just download and start playing right away!

Contact us at NashTools@gmail.com or add us in Skype: NashTools (UK) if you are interested in buying a license or if you need more information/need support.

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Old 03-18-2014, 06:19 AM   #2
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Re: Turbo SeatIN - Seating Tool for PokerStars, iPoker and Party Poker

For a version that works on a VM, please contact us on nashtools@gmail.com.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:22 AM   #3
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Re: Turbo SeatIN - Seating Tool for PokerStars, iPoker and Party Poker

Does this always choose the best seat?

Can it be programmed to only sit to the left or left +1 of the targeted player?
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:39 AM   #4
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Re: Turbo SeatIN - Seating Tool for PokerStars, iPoker and Party Poker

Does this work for party and borgata New Jersey sites or only party IT.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:51 PM   #5
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Does this always choose the best seat?

Can it be programmed to only sit to the left or left +1 of the targeted player?
This would be great feature.
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Old 03-21-2014, 12:19 AM   #6
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Does this always choose the best seat?

Can it be programmed to only sit to the left or left +1 of the targeted player?
It always tries to sit directly in position of the targeted player. If it should not be possible to get that seat, it will try to sit one seat further to the left etc. untill it was possible to take the seat.

If the seat it took is not good enough you can still leave the table, but we could add an option to not even try, if the seat isn't good enough, it's just that so far everyone was also happy to be OOP to the targeted player.

There have been some issues with that on iPoker on some computers, so it might have seemed, that it takes a random seat, but those issues should be fixed by now.
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Old 03-21-2014, 12:34 AM   #7
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Does this work for party and borgata New Jersey sites or only party IT.
It should work as long as the software is similar to the Party Poker software. We have not implemented any restrictions, that would keep it from working on the NJ sites, but unfortunatelly we are unable to create an account there, so we have not tested it.

You can get a one week free trial and see for yourself, you don't need a trial key or anything, just download the software and see if it works.

We can also patch the software, if there are only minor issues.
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Old 03-21-2014, 12:50 AM   #8
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There's no table selecting yet i think that might be an issue.
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:37 AM   #9
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It always tries to sit directly in position of the targeted player. If it should not be possible to get that seat, it will try to sit one seat further to the left etc. untill it was possible to take the seat.

If the seat it took is not good enough you can still leave the table, but we could add an option to not even try, if the seat isn't good enough, it's just that so far everyone was also happy to be OOP to the targeted player.

There have been some issues with that on iPoker on some computers, so it might have seemed, that it takes a random seat, but those issues should be fixed by now.
I'll try it out and report back. If it doesn't always try to take the best seat then it's no better than the other table selection tools out there which happens to be cheaper too.
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Old 03-21-2014, 03:12 PM   #10
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Is there a basic instruction guide somewhere for people who have never used one of these before? Ive watched the videos but really dont understand how to go about setting it up for the tables. Do you need to have all the tables open where nobody is sat waiting for people to join or does it scan the lobby and open tables for you?

For instance now Im looking at the lobby and there are about 10 tables open with one person sitting, would I have to open all those?

Also you mention that you dont need people to be color coded, how does this work and how is it set up? I dont play that many hands so my finding fish is usually based on players of a certain stack size joining tables.

Did you develop the tool yourself or was it somebody independent? Im just wondering in the case of how this will be updated if the need arises.
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Thank you for your feedback, you are right, the videos are not clear, if you never had any experience with that kind of seating software, we will try to make the videos more detailed.

You do need to have the tables opened and they have to be in the detection area. There are many tools available, that will open tables with a certain number of players for you and move them to a certain location.

The reason, why the tables have to be open is, that it is way faster to detect players and join a table that way. If you look at traditional lobby scanning programms, you will see, that they usually need a few seconds to scan the whole lobby.

Even if you use auto scan, a table will often be full after literally a second, you have no chance to get a table that way, the only thing you can hope for is to get on the waiting list.

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Also you mention that you dont need people to be color coded, how does this work and how is it set up? I dont play that many hands so my finding fish is usually based on players of a certain stack size joining tables
They need to be color coded. I guess what you are reffering to is us saying "detects unmarked players", what we meant by that was, that it can detect unmarked players as opposed to marked ones, if you want to use that feature, you would need to mark all other players. That often makes sense on midstakes, because you will most likelly know most of the regulars, so if you mark them, every unmarked player will most likelly be a weak one and you can join the table, when you detect that.

We did develop the tool ourselves and we are still improving it. New versions are coming up almost daily, and we are still planning to implement new features and possibly add more sites.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:10 AM   #12
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It always tries to sit directly in position of the targeted player. If it should not be possible to get that seat, it will try to sit one seat further to the left etc. untill it was possible to take the seat.

If the seat it took is not good enough you can still leave the table, but we could add an option to not even try, if the seat isn't good enough, it's just that so far everyone was also happy to be OOP to the targeted player.

There have been some issues with that on iPoker on some computers, so it might have seemed, that it takes a random seat, but those issues should be fixed by now.
There are many good tables if you play small/micro stakes and an option to seat only to the left of the marked opponent would be of great help. Right now I have to close more than 10 tables to find a table seated directly to the left.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:13 PM   #13
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Seating software is not allowed on Party from what I know.

Selling at 20/month will make it almost useless as most regs would use it so it would be still v hard to catch a seat.
Another side effect of that is that it would turn even lower stakes into a circus forcing Stars' hand to use it as a pretext to remove table selection altogether.

It's somehow similar to the shortstacker problem.
When there were 1-2 per table they could profit and they were also tolerable. Once a russian website started to teach even the dumbest people how to shortstack(like you are doing here with what basically is "Idiot's guide to grabbing seats") they infested every game, every stake at 6 out of 9 per table Stars was forced to do smth about it.

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Old 04-18-2014, 04:26 AM   #14
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Hi, do you support your product? I sent a letter to NashTools@gmail.com
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:15 AM   #15
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Hi, yes, we do support it. I have checked and I don't see any unanswered mails, if there are still any problems, let us know.
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Re: Turbo SeatIN - Seating Tool for PokerStars, iPoker and Party Poker


http://turbo-seatin.com/

+++ Check out our new version: Turbo SeatIN v2 is now faster and more reliable than ever before +++

- The FASTEST seating program out there. No other software out there beats our software in speed and reliability.
- Gain in Speed results from a better, completely different, scanning technology. Information are directly extracted from RAM, instead of scanned via images.
Your ADVANTAGE:
- Huge speed INCREASE. Now we are not talking about milliseconds, but about one millisecond. Beats the hell out of other software out there.

- NEARLY no increase in computer resources usage! On my computer, scanning 20 tables only costs 4% of CPU usage.

- A RELIABLE solution compared to the technology used out there. You can turn on avatar pictures and display stats using other software. Just make sure you have selected the RIGHT layout and actions in our option menu in the software. THAT’S ALL!

Make sure you check out this our latest version: www.turbo-seatin.com/setup_dll.exe
For a VM version, please contact us directly!
Now what about the price? Doesn’t this new VERSION cost much more?
--> Not at all! Same prices as before! Prices are reasonable and much lower than those of the competition.
The new version currently supports PokerStars! We will add support to PartyPoker and iPoker shortly!
We still keep the old version online, so you can still get seated in PartyPoker and iPoker!


Turbo SeatIN - The Seating Software for PokerStars, Party Poker and iPoker



Allowed on PokerStars

Turbo SeatIN is on the list of approved software on PokerStars, you won't have to endanger your account with unapproved software.

http://www.pokerstars.eu/poker/room/prohibited/

Features:



- Detect color coded and unknown opponents
- Take the best seat in milliseconds
- Play an alarm and send an e-mail notification
- Automatically close open and full tables

Support for all variants, the most popular Layouts and most table sizes



No matter if you play no-limit, PLO, fixed limit, shorthanded, 9-max or fullring, Turbo SeatIN will work.

We support the most popular layouts on PokerStars: Black Layout, Nova Layout and Hyper Simple layout.

Setting up Turbo SeatIN

Turbo seat in is easy to configure and ready to go in less than 2 minutes. Watch the tutorial video on our website for more informations.

http://turbo-seatin.com/videos.html

Flexible prices

We price our software according to the limits you play and the sites you play.

Low Stakes (up to NL 200, PLO 200, FL 2/4) - 20$/month
Mid Stakes (up to NL 800, PLO 800, FL 8/16) - 80$/month
High Stakes (up to NL 2000, PLO 2000, FL 20/40) - 200$/month
Nose Bleed Stakes (over NL 2000, over PLO 2000, over FL 20/40) - 400$/month

Prices are for one site. No need to pay hundreds of dollars for sites, that you don't even use. Support for each additional site costs only 50%.

Trial download and contact information

Turbo SeatIN v2: www.turbo-seatin.com/setup_dll.exe
Turbo SeatIN - old version : www.turbo-seatin.com/setup.exe

Get your one week free trial and contact us at NashTools@gmail.com if you are interested in buying a license or if you need more information/need support.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:41 PM   #17
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I wish you guys would do a smarter job in configuring the software instead of causing this freakshow that happens now on stars because of you.
Once a player is reserving a seat, a whole loop of reserves will trigger each other's program causing the table to be full of R for minutes.
Therefore blocking everyone including the fish from joining that table.

And forcing stars to do something about this pretty soon and screwing your business as well.
I have no problem with seating programs but ffs do it properly without bothering the recs and creating a freak show at the tables.

Thank you
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Old 05-17-2014, 03:36 PM   #18
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Re: "+++ Now FASTER, BETTER and MORE RELIABLE VERSION +++ Turbo SeatIN v2 - Seating Tool for Po

There is new version online. Because the PokerStars notes file is saved in different locations on different computer, you will now have to select it in the "Actions" options.
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Re: "+++ Now FASTER, BETTER and MORE RELIABLE VERSION +++ Turbo SeatIN v2 - Seating Tool for Po

Alright, there have been some criticism concerning our program. And I will try to give an answer to everybody as detailed as possible:

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- It might be equally fast, which doesn't mean it's the fastest out there.
Answer: We have tested this software against every software that is out there. Our software has ALWAYS gotten the better seat. If you have a seating software you want to compare it with ours, tell me and I can make a proof video, showing our software is faster. There is no FASTER software out there.

Now, what if I dont get the best seat using Turbo SeatIN v2. There are already a variaty of people using our software. If they have a better ping than you have, you will not get the best seat. Likewise if your ping is too high, yes, you might also not get the best seat. Given the same or an even moderate slower internet connection, our software wins!

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Other use same techics. In addition you now came up with this solution after you REVIEWED other tools. When i REVIEWED yours, i saw you use EXACTLY same central pattern to locate memory to hook to. Strange....
Answer: We wrote the software by ourselves and have not copied computer code from other people. At this point you have basically admitted that you have tried to reverse engineer our code which is against our license agreement and the law. Please do not do this.

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it does equal at least price of one competor who used your NEW techics since the start
Answer: So what does this have to do with our prices? Please read our post. We are happy to compete with everybody in a fair way.

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huge, huge lie. borderline scam.
Answer: Okay, I dont know what to respond to you. We have put lots of work into this software and we have many satisfied customer. If you have a problem to get this software to run, which might happen since everybody has a different computer configuration, PLEASE tell US via email, skype (oms-oj) or through a different channel. We can get the software to work on your computer: In the end, satisfied customers are our only ASSET. If you dont buy our software, okay we can live with it, but you dont need to try to destroy our business.


There also have been some critics concerning the fairness of seating scripts. Let me just tell you: There are lots of seating scripts out there. There are even players who have one customized ones: So Poker plattforms are not even able to detect most of them even if banned. We are offering poker players who are not high level programmers a way to have the same chances. And I believe our prices to be reasonable. We have put lots of work into this and we hope you understand that we also need to make a living out of it.

If you have any questions or PROBLEMS, please dont hesitate to ask us via mail or skype (oms-oj).

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EasySeat and koysit is meant to be slower, yes. And speaking of it, your former Version was basicly a copy of it. Asked about the difference to EasySeat you told it's just the price. So, wouldn't you say you stole the idea from them? (Even if I personal do not care as there is some history of Easyseat also.)
I am pretty sure, that I know, which script you are talking about.
We have compared the speed of our software to the script you are talking about, we were faster in all our tests, even if the internet connection of the computer running Turbo SeatIN was a little slower.

All we said about prices was, that our new version is not more expensive than the old one. There might be other software with COMPARABLE speed, but none, that is exactly as fast or faster than our software, according to our tests.

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I'm a script developer too, mate. Your prices are obviously more than reasonable, I wasn't critizicing you for that. And the satisfaction of your costumers is irrelevant to the speed of your script. I just thought I had to point out that your script isn't even close to be as fast as the best ones out there. Maybe it's faster than easy seat or other commercial softwares, good. but it's just not close to the good ones, and i'm pretty sure you know that. and it's unfair for gullible people to be lied like that.

also it would be more profitable for you (and other script developers of course) longterm if your script cancelled reservations after someone reserves and confirms to not be a fish. otherwise it takes minutes untill the table is cleared from people reserving seats. and you therefore have two regs trying to start a table with every single seat reserved for 5 minutes. idk if i made myself clear. doing it provides little edge in terms of getting seats and is going to get script banned way sooner, since regs that start tables can't get the fish to join.
I would be extremelly suprised if there was a software, that was significantly faster than ours. In fact I would be even suprised, if there was a software, that was faster at all.

We have looked at all available seating scripts and compared them to our software. Obviously our new version blows the optical recognition based scripts out of the water, but we also have a small, but significant edge over memory or hooking based scripts.
In fact, we were determined not to release our new version untill we beat all scripts, that we knew about.

We gather table informations at the earliest time possible, when PokerStars first writes them into memory. The only theoretically faster way would be to read the incoming internet stream, we tried that, but it was not very promising, because a lot of computational effort is required to decrypt those streams, making it slower than reading directly from PokerStars memory.

It seems, that you either didn't try our new version and you think, that we still use an optical recognition approach, that while being highly optimized and very fast at that time, would not be adequate at this point, or that you just want to promote your private script.

In the end we have many customers, who get the best seats at mid and highstakes and who are very happy with our software.

Concerning your second point: you are right and we are working on an update, that will automatically cancel reservations, when it is confirmed that the player who joined is not a fish, or when he leaves the table.

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- It might be equally fast, which doesn't mean it's the fastest out there.


- Other use same techics. In addition you now came up with this solution after you REVIEWED other tools. When i REVIEWED yours, i saw you use EXACTLY same central pattern to locate memory to hook to. Strange....


- it does equal at least price of one competor who used your NEW techics since the start


Not much problem if you decide to learn from the best, just with the way you claim it based on your genius.
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- The FASTEST seating program out there. No other software out there beats our software in speed and reliability.
- Gain in Speed results from a better, completely different, scanning technology. Information are directly extracted from RAM, instead of scanned via images.
Your ADVANTAGE:
- Huge speed INCREASE. Now we are not talking about milliseconds, but about one millisecond. Beats the hell out of other software out there.





huge, huge lie. borderline scam.
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I'm a script developer too, mate. Your prices are obviously more than reasonable, I wasn't critizicing you for that. And the satisfaction of your costumers is irrelevant to the speed of your script. I just thought I had to point out that your script isn't even close to be as fast as the best ones out there. Maybe it's faster than easy seat or other commercial softwares, good. but it's just not close to the good ones, and i'm pretty sure you know that. and it's unfair for gullible people to be lied like that.

also it would be more profitable for you (and other script developers of course) longterm if your script cancelled reservations after someone reserves and confirms to not be a fish. otherwise it takes minutes untill the table is cleared from people reserving seats. and you therefore have two regs trying to start a table with every single seat reserved for 5 minutes. idk if i made myself clear. doing it provides little edge in terms of getting seats and is going to get script banned way sooner, since regs that start tables can't get the fish to join.
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First, besides all, i welcome you resonding to point presented...


EasySeat and koysit is meant to be slower, yes. And speaking of it, your former Version was basicly a copy of it. Asked about the difference to EasySeat you told it's just the price. So, wouldn't you say you stole the idea from them? (Even if I personal do not care as there is some history of Easyseat also.)

There is one more. You tested against it? Yours is faster, sry nope.




I did not say you copied code. I just say, i'm pretty sure you copied the IDEA of the first version of your software from Easyseat (or koysit). And i believe you got to know how to extract the information directly from the pokerstars client by REVIEWING the third not above mentioned seating software for stars (or a not seating related tool for stars also known to me).

How can i act against your license agreement, if i don't even own a license? Btw, this is also a small difference between us, as if you tested yours against all others ....

Also, in my country i'm well within my rights to reverse engineer software for scientific purpose and also to asure it does nothing harmful. But don't be afraid, all you do i did already know and a little more. So i didn't learn anything new.

And I do not try, i just do. And i knew what i was looking for, so it didn't took long.



My point was simply, your prices just equal the price of at least one equally fast tool for stars.

When asked about difference of your tool to Easyseat nearly a month ago, you said "the price". That was a honest answer. You rightfully asked to be handled fair. I ask you to do the same.
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OCR tools are beaten. I personal wounder how you can measure your small, but significant edge in an area of only ONE single ms. If both tools take the info at the same time and same place, any speed difference is because of post processing. And this part is taking virtual no time and no idea how you would compare two programms taking both 1ms and end up saying one is faster than the other. (and even so, tools get optimize all the time and your test might be already if not soon deprecated)






There is a saying "I only trust statisics i did fake myself.".

Anyway, i see you realized that your solution has NO solitary position in speed, which i think you claimed before. So i'm satisfied at this point as any future arguments would be rather academical and impossible to prove (at least for most reading here).

A to the constructiv and more realistic talk in the end.
Good luck.
A few of these posts appear to be from competitors/potential competitors to OP's product (not Jon's AFAIK). I don't want legitimate questions to disappear, but I also don't want this thread to become a way for others to drum up business. Not saying that's what's going on, but the potential is there. So I'm deleting a few posts but quoting them here with SNs slightly changed, and I'll be changing the SNs in some quoted posts as well.
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:29 PM   #23
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Re: "+++ Now FASTER, BETTER and MORE RELIABLE VERSION +++ Turbo SeatIN v2 - Seating Tool for Po

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We gather table informations at the earliest time possible, when PokerStars first writes them into memory. The only theoretically faster way would be to read the incoming internet stream, we tried that, but it was not very promising, because a lot of computational effort is required to decrypt those streams, making it slower than reading directly from PokerStars memory.
I just have a question:
Is reading from memory allowed in the TOS on Pokerstars? §1.4.a which states that reverse engineering and disassembling is not allowed. Because you will be reading from memory you must have reverse engineered the software to find the memory locations or is there something I am missing?
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Old 06-05-2014, 03:53 AM   #24
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Re: "+++ Now FASTER, BETTER and MORE RELIABLE VERSION +++ Turbo SeatIN v2 - Seating Tool for Po

the program is not even working for me btw, I tried the trial version and it's saying "can't start because MinHook.x86.dll is missing from your computer"
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:26 AM   #25
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Hi, yes, we do support it. I have checked and I don't see any unanswered mails, if there are still any problems, let us know.
well I sent an email on 28th last month asking about a missing dll and got no answer yet so...
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