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New software: ICMIZER - advanced online icm calculator (Windows & Mac) New software: ICMIZER - advanced online icm calculator (Windows & Mac)

12-31-2011 , 06:56 AM
looks good.

I am looking forward to 3 way pots
01-09-2012 , 11:55 AM
what kind of hand ranking do you use in your software?
01-10-2012 , 04:51 AM
Sliders are based on SC rankings. You are free to enter any range manually though so its not really that relevant I believe.

Could you please elaborate what implications answer on this question can possibly have?
I could easily add more rankings (which would simply change sliders behaviour and nothing else) if I saw a compelling reason to do that.
01-10-2012 , 05:01 AM
what I would like to have is to ability to define custom rankings, as in Holdem Viewer software.

Last edited by Qlka; 01-10-2012 at 05:31 AM.
01-10-2012 , 05:19 AM
But do I understand it correctly, end goal is just to change behaviour of sliders, or something else/more?
01-10-2012 , 05:30 AM
yes, exactly. Would it be possible also to choose particular hands in a range with certain weight?
01-10-2012 , 06:04 AM
Sadly I believe weighted ranges are super unlikely due to complexity of calculations involved with ability to manually edit ranges. Other ICM software often limits range editing capabilities by much higher extent than ICMIZER which allows any ranges, its done due to complexity of calculations I believe.

I'll put manual rankings creation on a wishlist, it sounds like a fairly doable feature.
01-10-2012 , 10:34 AM
When new release is coming (with handling overcalls)?
01-11-2012 , 05:40 AM
Work is currently in progress, However I cannot give good estimate I believe yet.
01-11-2012 , 04:29 PM
Is there a way creating a Fifty50 format, I haven't downloaded the software but no other software that I know of has a way of creating the structure of a Fifty50 SNG. 10%, 10%, 10%, 10%, 10% and the other 50% in the prize pool is distributed based on chip stacks with each chip being worth the same price. I don't even know if this is doable. Any chance of something like this happening (if it doesn't exist already)?

Thanks
01-12-2012 , 03:29 AM
Fifty50 structure is supported from first release. Just choose Fifty50 structure as payout.
01-12-2012 , 11:42 AM
Fixed a problem today that was causing calculations for MTTs to run very slow and at times even timeout. Should not happen anymore now.
01-29-2012 , 12:59 PM
Great program, thanks for directing me to it.

Couple of things.

1. Will you be including antes?

2. Anyway of including the feature SNGPT had where you can select the HH of a whole tournament and go through hand by hand. At present I am opening the HH and copying each hand one by one, is this the fastest way?
01-29-2012 , 04:21 PM
Hey , as for 1. antes are already included. Just choose blind structure with antes.

as for 2. Currently its impossible to loadup a whole tournament, only hand by hand is possible. It is a planned future feature.
01-31-2012 , 02:13 AM
I have posted an article about current ICMIZER user interface which goes in more detail about the changes which were made last month:

http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/en...es-in-icmizer/
02-03-2012 , 12:56 PM
Will you be making icmizer into a desktop based program?
02-03-2012 , 09:42 PM
Hey MouldyOnions!

Current its not planned, initial release will be like current web based version. I am open to suggestions though how to make it more convenient to run from browser.

Maybe after some time.
02-17-2012 , 08:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q
Sadly I believe weighted ranges are super unlikely due to complexity of calculations involved with ability to manually edit ranges.
Please please please add weighted ranges! Let it be possible to paste for example: 50%[AA], 25%[9Ts], 25%[23o, 54o, T2o].

Also add possibility to calculate shove equity vs a certain limp-calling range (and perhaps vs 3bet calling ).

Other than that, thank you for a brilliant application sir !
02-18-2012 , 05:05 AM
Hey Disorienter

Thanks for kind words. While weighted ranges are still unlikely ill give that some thought after the planned features are out.

As for calculating shove equity against limp-calling range- that really is not possible I believe, because if someone limps you cant really compare EQ fold and EQ push, you have to compare EQ push and EQ check, and its really impossible to predict what kind of equity you will have for EQ check (because it would mean to evaluate postflop somehow). Thats why currently all planned analyzable spots will require a known player to win the hand in case Hero Folds , so we can calculate EQ fold and compare that with EQ push to get EV of shove thats desired.

However current version doesn't support any spots where hero vpips and is facing some action after him, those ones will be added.
02-18-2012 , 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q
Hey Disorienter

Thanks for kind words. While weighted ranges are still unlikely ill give that some thought after the planned features are out.

As for calculating shove equity against limp-calling range- that really is not possible I believe, because if someone limps you cant really compare EQ fold and EQ push, you have to compare EQ push and EQ check, and its really impossible to predict what kind of equity you will have for EQ check (because it would mean to evaluate postflop somehow). Thats why currently all planned analyzable spots will require a known player to win the hand in case Hero Folds , so we can calculate EQ fold and compare that with EQ push to get EV of shove thats desired.

However current version doesn't support any spots where hero vpips and is facing some action after him, those ones will be added.
That is of course true about the limping. I was assuming the program automatically puts us allin if villain limps, and that we set villain's calling range, to see our equity overall (villain folds + villain calls).


Cool to see that you are adding other awesome features. I'd love to give more feedback later. Cheers!
02-18-2012 , 10:23 AM
Yeah we can calculate equity for pushing if someone limps. But we have nothing to compare it with , because EV fold is not available, and EV check is impossible to calculate like I say. So if program just came up with a EV for PUSH it would be useless cause it wont help you decide which action to take in current spot.

As for features, yes many are planned. Currently I am almost done with correct calculations of multiway pot overcalls, should be ready real soon.
03-05-2012 , 03:05 AM
Pretty big news guys - ICMIZER finally supports 3 way allin spot calculations and does that most precisely as usual.

Each time 3 players go allin there are 13 possible outcomes, as simple combinatorics suggests ( to those interested, if there are no ties there are 6 variants, [123,132,213,231,312,321], if someone wins and two other tie there are 3 more[p1>p2=p3],[p2>p3=p1], [p3>p2=p1] and 3 if two players tie and win over the third, [p1=p2>p3] [p2=p3>p1] [p1=p3]>p2 and of course all 3 tie, p1=p2=p3, totaling 13).

Each one is considered, its probability is calculated, hero ev is calculated and all is combined to get hero equity for a 3 way spot.

Notice that you can edit OC (overcall) range without any restriction.

This is a short announcement, for those who are eager to test it out asap. I will prepare a better overview of new release very soon.
03-09-2012 , 01:13 PM
Last year Ben Roberts introduced his new ICM model in a couple of threads.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...ities-1112777/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...ities-1112895/

He made a lot of work and it sure looks very interesting to me, as a developer and as a player.

Some players asked whether he is going to create a tool that uses it, well I am glad to announce that ICMIZER now supports Ben Roberts ICM model.

You can choose new model in upper right corner, instead of Default. I can already say that it produces very different results for interesting spots like bubble etc.

I am pretty sure its worth investingating the results for most curious and serious players.
03-11-2012 , 06:54 AM
Overcalls, limpcalls, 3bet calls. All really great work Q.
03-11-2012 , 10:18 AM
I cant find the download link. Looks great though!

      
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