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07-18-2017 , 06:21 AM
Lol 3rd time luck sorry! This is correct; Hi Q,
I was playing the Friday Freezout in crown Melbourne which is a small stakes $175 buy in with 10k stating stack. Rake $35. Total chips 1.53m, Average 69k
153 entrants with 18 paid.
Blinds 1500/3000 with 300 ante
Down to 22 players with about 4 or 5 stacks shorter than me and every1 who is shorter on all tables including mine has at least 8bb.
English weak passive player limps in the lowjack 7 handed with about 56k. Straight away put him on a low-med pair or weak suited A.
I am in the cutoff with A9s and shove for just over 46k.
Firstly I can't work out how to use ICMIZER so not sure if I should push or fold consider the money bubble. /i know his call is bad considering the bubble and my shoving range.
Any advice etc would be greatly appreciated.
Can I use ICMIZER2 for live and if I can I will buy the ProVersion or whatever it's called for sure. Looking to know if I should of folded or what my shoving range is. Sorry for the long rant.
1st Mehrdad Mousapour Melbourne $5,465.00
2nd David Daws Melbourne $3,640.00
3rd James Ballas Melbourne $2,355.00
4th Jacob Galea Melbourne $1,820.00
5th Petros Aristidou Melbourne $1,500.00
6th Arthur Maggs Melbourne $1,230.00
7th Nikola Borkovic Melbourne $1,015.00
8th Ralph Delaserna Melbourne $805.00
9th Tony Zelevarov Melbourne $590.00
10th Victor Galea Melbourne $480.00
11th Brad Nicholson Melbourne $375.00
12th Samuel Ingham Melbourne $375.00
13th William Lim Melbourne $320.00
14th Benjamin Michell Melbourne $320.00
15th Sergio Cacaiolo Melbourne $320.00
16th Ilavenil Arumugam Melbourne $270.00
17th Nicolas Haidaris Melbourne $270.00
18th Srdjan Brkic Melbourne $270.00
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07-19-2017 , 09:54 AM
Hello,

This might be a dumb question, but what exactly is FGS? I know it stands for future game simulation but what is it and how do FGS1 through FGS6 differ from one another and where should i use different variant of FGS?

For example, i was on the bubble of a 9-man SNG with K9o on button with 9bb, small blind had 16bb and big blind had 11bb and while FGS1 showed it was slightly -ev, FGS2 through FGS4 showed it was a mandatory shove.

So I'm a little confused about this, can someone clarify?

Thanks
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07-20-2017 , 01:46 PM
I like this software, you can tell a lot of work went into such a sophisticated and friendly UI. Some feedback/feature requests:

1. Hand history converter: it seems that this is done in the cloud but doing it locally would be much appreciated. Especially with a bad connection, as it doubles the latency along with the actual FGS calculations which I'm obviously ok with done in the cloud.

2. SNG Coach: Include some sort of verbal explanation about why the range is what it is for each scenario as well as the theory. Also make an option to make the edge differences greater. Also an option to pick ranges rather than specific holdings.
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07-25-2017 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by daithianseo
This is correct; Hi Q,
I was playing the Friday Freezout in crown Melbourne which is a small stakes $175 buy in with 10k stating stack. Rake $35. Total chips 1.53m, Average 69k
153 entrants with 18 paid.
Blinds 1500/3000 with 300 ante
Down to 22 players with about 4 or 5 stacks shorter than me and every1 who is shorter on all tables including mine has at least 8bb.
English weak passive player limps in the lowjack 7 handed with about 56k. Straight away put him on a low-med pair or weak suited A.
I am in the cutoff with A9s and shove for just over 46k.
Firstly I can't work out how to use ICMIZER so not sure if I should push or fold consider the money bubble. /i know his call is bad considering the bubble and my shoving range.
Any advice etc would be greatly appreciated.
Can I use ICMIZER2 for live and if I can I will buy the ProVersion or whatever it's called for sure. Looking to know if I should of folded or what my shoving range is. Sorry for the long rant
1st - George $4,265.00
2nd Mario Faure Melbourne $2,900.00
3rd David Kelly Melbourne $1,930.00
4th Joey Chang Melbourne $1,530.00
5th Steven Jones Melbourne $1,210.00
6th Reid Jones Melbourne $1,045.00
7th Albert Thai Melbourne $885.00
8th Benjamin Connolly Melbourne $725.00
9th Jacqui Peeler Melbourne $560.00
10th Danninder Bedi Melbourne $400.00
11th Michael Gulle Melbourne $325.00
12th Sam Demirkiran Melbourne $325.00
Hi daithianseo.
Sorry for the late response.
Sure thing, you can review such tournament hand in ICMIZER.
Just switch it to MTT mode and assign remaining number of players & average stack so they correspond to your tournament.
Also you need to create a custom tournament to take into account this payout structure.
Once you plug in these parameters, you can review your hand as you review any hand in ICMIZER. Assign ranges for opponents and figure out the correct pushing range.
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07-25-2017 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rusrs
Hello,

This might be a dumb question, but what exactly is FGS? I know it stands for future game simulation but what is it and how do FGS1 through FGS6 differ from one another and where should i use different variant of FGS?

For example, i was on the bubble of a 9-man SNG with K9o on button with 9bb, small blind had 16bb and big blind had 11bb and while FGS1 showed it was slightly -ev, FGS2 through FGS4 showed it was a mandatory shove.

So I'm a little confused about this, can someone clarify?

Thanks
Hi. FGS is a model. It looks N hands ahead depending on depth setting. It sees how blinds are being posted, so it takes in the dynamic at the table, which ICM completely ignores.
Generally the highest possible FGS depth value may make the most sense.
Problem with FGS depth is that with large number of players at the table looking 3+ hands ahead is too expensive in terms of computational complexity. It just takes too long.
The good thing is that FGS depth has a certain diminishing returns effect, so as we keep increasing it more and more it has less and less effect on the changes of actual ranges.

I explain more about FGS depth in this article section:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/icmi...port/#FgsDepth

Hope it helps.
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07-26-2017 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Q
Hi. FGS is a model. It looks N hands ahead depending on depth setting. It sees how blinds are being posted, so it takes in the dynamic at the table, which ICM completely ignores.
Generally the highest possible FGS depth value may make the most sense.
Problem with FGS depth is that with large number of players at the table looking 3+ hands ahead is too expensive in terms of computational complexity. It just takes too long.
The good thing is that FGS depth has a certain diminishing returns effect, so as we keep increasing it more and more it has less and less effect on the changes of actual ranges.

I explain more about FGS depth in this article section:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/icmi...port/#FgsDepth

Hope it helps.
Thank you very much kind sir, that was very helpful indeed.
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07-31-2017 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Q
Hi famous5ives.
Yes, our opening range does have an effect. There is a description regarding this current behavior, it is temporary until we release the new version with full support for a custom opening range for hero in this situation.
We are still the Beta mode of Nash equilibrium calculations in situations with raises. Once we finish everything and it is not in beta anymore there will be no need to lock this range at 100%.
We plan to release the update later this summer, but there are no exact dates yet and things can change, it is going to be a big complex update for the calculation engine.
Any updates regarding when this will be fixed?
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07-31-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SickCall
Any updates regarding when this will be fixed?
Hi.
We are working on it and as I said this major update should be available later this summer.
I am afraid that I cannot add anything else at this time.
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08-10-2017 , 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q
Hi. FGS is a model. It looks N hands ahead depending on depth setting. It sees how blinds are being posted, so it takes in the dynamic at the table, which ICM completely ignores.
Generally the highest possible FGS depth value may make the most sense.
Problem with FGS depth is that with large number of players at the table looking 3+ hands ahead is too expensive in terms of computational complexity. It just takes too long.
The good thing is that FGS depth has a certain diminishing returns effect, so as we keep increasing it more and more it has less and less effect on the changes of actual ranges.

I explain more about FGS depth in this article section:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/icmi...port/#FgsDepth

Hope it helps.
Hi,

Sorry but I need some more explanations for example:

I'm UTG and I openshove(cEV calculation) with FGS2, I set everyranges that icimizer request, but the section where "I FOLD" it's not important in cEV, for the result of my openshove(if I fold and someone go busted before me) right?
So FGS2 somehow simulate that I will pass through the next two hands in BB e SB?? this is how works fgs in cEV?

Thanks.
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08-16-2017 , 07:21 AM
Any plans on adding 90 man pko sngs to the sng coach section ?
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08-16-2017 , 08:16 AM
Hi,

If I run a hand in cEV, with 1openraise, one 3bettor e than my reshoving range, in the first column(ranges) I got just padlocks. it's a bug? thanks.
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08-16-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VenTo10
Hi,

Sorry but I need some more explanations for example:

I'm UTG and I openshove(cEV calculation) with FGS2, I set everyranges that icimizer request, but the section where "I FOLD" it's not important in cEV, for the result of my openshove(if I fold and someone go busted before me) right?
So FGS2 somehow simulate that I will pass through the next two hands in BB e SB?? this is how works fgs in cEV?

Thanks.
Hi. If we use FGS combined with Chip EV calculation mode we care about ranges of our opponents when we fold.

We always care about our opponent ranges when we push in Chip EV, that is obvious.

What is not so obvious that when we calculate EV Fold in FGS mode we take into account our potential Push EV in future hands. Since Push EV in future hands depends on how stacks of our opponents are distributed at the table, the behavior of the players after we fold affects the future distribution of stacks of our opponents and is required for FGS Chip EV calculations of Fold equity too.
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08-16-2017 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by balls'n'all
Any plans on adding 90 man pko sngs to the sng coach section ?
Hi. Currently, there are no short terms plans. However, I think that is quite possible at some point in the future.
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08-16-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by VenTo10
Hi,

If I run a hand in cEV, with 1openraise, one 3bettor e than my reshoving range, in the first column(ranges) I got just padlocks. it's a bug? thanks.
Hi, no this is not a bug. It is explained in detail in this part of article regarding the recent update 2.9:
http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/calc...ations/#Locked
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08-17-2017 , 10:47 AM
Thanks Q.
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08-21-2017 , 10:07 AM
Hello,

Lately there seems to be some problems with rendering hand histories. Most of the time the "paste hand history" seems to work, but sometimes it will incorrectly render blind levels or it will disregard somebody opening the pot preflop and sometimes it just renders the whole hand wrong for example i was analyzing a hand on the bubble where i had 78s in SB with 7bb, the blinds were 150/300 and when i pasted this hand history for some reason it rendered it with me having AA in SB and blinds being 50/100.

I had never before experienced any problems of this sorts and i'm using icmizer for a year, only the last week or so. Hopefully this issues can be resolved ASAP.

Thanks
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08-21-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rusrs
Hello,

Lately there seems to be some problems with rendering hand histories. Most of the time the "paste hand history" seems to work, but sometimes it will incorrectly render blind levels or it will disregard somebody opening the pot preflop and sometimes it just renders the whole hand wrong for example i was analyzing a hand on the bubble where i had 78s in SB with 7bb, the blinds were 150/300 and when i pasted this hand history for some reason it rendered it with me having AA in SB and blinds being 50/100.

I had never before experienced any problems of this sorts and i'm using icmizer for a year, only the last week or so. Hopefully this issues can be resolved ASAP.

Thanks
Hi.

If problems began recently, this may indicate a change in hand history format, which poker rooms do once in a while. You didn't specify which poker room is that. Please forward hand histories indicating the described problems to support@icmpoker.com so we can resolve the issue asap. The more details you provide, the faster we can resolve the problem.

Kind regards,
Valentin
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08-21-2017 , 09:30 PM
I'm playing on party and they did update their client recently so that is most likely causing the problem. I saved the hand histories which were causing the problem and will be forwarding them to your support shortly.
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08-21-2017 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rusrs
I'm playing on party and they did update their client recently so that is most likely causing the problem. I saved the hand histories which were causing the problem and will be forwarding them to your support shortly.
Hi. Got the hands and found the problem.
The fix should be ready soon. I've responded to your email too.
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08-23-2017 , 11:22 AM
Hello

For the sng coach, i have always wondered in the random spots you can be put in, is it a fake final table?

As it isn't clear how many players are left and if you are in the money, which would effect your calling and shoving ranges.

thanks.
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08-23-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant040689
Hello

For the sng coach, i have always wondered in the random spots you can be put in, is it a fake final table?

As it isn't clear how many players are left and if you are in the money, which would effect your calling and shoving ranges.

thanks.
Hi.
It is at the final table. There is a special Chip EV quiz which stands alone.
Every other quiz is for final table play. ICMIZER is a precise tool so if you do not see something (stacks on the other tables), then it simply doesn't exist.
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08-26-2017 , 01:14 AM
thank you very much.
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08-26-2017 , 10:26 AM
I can't get it to work, as I can't run internet explorer on windows 10, and it doesn't run on chrome or edge.
I downloaded silverlight and ICMizer, and it still wouldn't work.
I tried to log in today to try again, and it won't let me recover lost password.
I'll try firefox.

It also seems overly expensive at $29.99 a month, especially considering the flaws, and no free trial of sng coach.
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08-28-2017 , 02:58 AM
Why are these locks appearing?

http://icmpoker.com/screenshot/IhGEAX/
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08-29-2017 , 03:25 PM
Hi there,

I just bought icmizer and started working with the program. Now this is the first hand I analyze and I already think this is a wrong advice.

The start of a 5 dollar super knockout 6-max hyper. UTG limps for 50 chips with 48% of hands. Hero on CO can shove (500 chips) with 7,1% of hands. How is that possible?? This program is saying you need to fold 77, KQs or A9s while this guy limps half of his hands and you can get a big bounty for that? This can't be right, right?
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