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Old 02-27-2011, 10:44 PM   #346
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sorry if this has been asked. is there a time frame of when sng mttsng suppoort will be added?
There is not a formal time frame, but my best guess would be 3-6 months.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:52 PM   #347
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There is not a formal time frame, but my best guess would be 3-6 months.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:00 PM   #348
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does it account for rake?
did your match with poker academy take rake into account since you claim your primary target/tests/coaches are 50-200NL?
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:45 AM   #349
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does it account for rake?
did your match with poker academy take rake into account since you claim your primary target/tests/coaches are 50-200NL?
Yes. We include rake in all of our play/analysis.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:55 AM   #350
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It is very important, when the program suggests "you should raise" to specify the amount that it has to be put in. As you know, the EV may dramatically change due to amount that we put in the pot. e.x. a raise of 1/2 pot may be "well played" and a raise of 2 pots to be " you should check"
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:15 AM   #351
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It is very important, when the program suggests "you should raise" to specify the amount that it has to be put in. As you know, the EV may dramatically change due to amount that we put in the pot. e.x. a raise of 1/2 pot may be "well played" and a raise of 2 pots to be " you should check"
True. Here's how it works now.

If you check, then it'll analyze a proper bet size (w/ some variability).

If you bet or raise, then it will analyze that specific bet size and compare it to checking or calling.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:09 PM   #352
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True. Here's how it works now.

If you check, then it'll analyze a proper bet size (w/ some variability).

If you bet or raise, then it will analyze that specific bet size and compare it to checking or calling.
Shouldn't it compare the bet/raise size with the optimal one?
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:51 PM   #353
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Shouldn't it compare the bet/raise size with the optimal one?
We have considered giving the user the option to have it analyze (a) the bet/raise size you did, (b) the optimal bet/raise size (if materially different), and (c) checking/calling.

We have also considered providing an option to simulate different bet sizes and see the EV of each one....

However, we do not get this request often, so we do not wish to make the software overly complex.

What do you think?
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:54 AM   #354
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[QUOTE=pbehrman;25215513]We have considered giving the user the option to have it analyze (a) the bet/raise size you did, (b) the optimal bet/raise size (if materially different), and (c) checking/calling.

We have also considered providing an option to simulate different bet sizes and see the EV of each one....

However, we do not get this request often, so we do not wish to make the software overly complex.

What do you think?[/QUOT

One of the main advandages of the program is that is very user friendly.
Instead of other "training - reviewing" programs, like CardrunnersEV it doesn't need a lot of input from the users. If, someone likes to customize simulations, this would make the program more complex snd could deviate it from it's main purpose, as "leak finder". In any case. a program cannot do everything, even it is " the Holy Grail". The total procedure of player's improvemnet, cannot be based only in a software program.
On the other hand, it is generally accepted that wrong size bets/raises, is a common leak. In my opinion this has to be indetified through your program.

Close your ears and keep trying...
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:58 AM   #355
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We have considered giving the user the option to have it analyze (a) the bet/raise size you did, (b) the optimal bet/raise size (if materially different), and (c) checking/calling.

We have also considered providing an option to simulate different bet sizes and see the EV of each one....

However, we do not get this request often, so we do not wish to make the software overly complex.

What do you think?
Sorry for the other post
One of the main advandages of the program is that is very user friendly.
Instead of other "training - reviewing" programs, like CardrunnersEV it doesn't need a lot of input from the users. If, someone likes to customize simulations, this would make the program more complex snd could deviate it from it's main purpose, as "leak finder". In any case. a program cannot do everything, even it is " the Holy Grail". The total procedure of player's improvemnet, cannot be based only in a software program.
On the other hand, it is generally accepted that wrong size bets/raises, is a common leak. In my opinion this has to be indetified through your program.

Close your ears and keep trying...
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:21 PM   #356
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Sorry for the other post
One of the main advandages of the program is that is very user friendly.
Instead of other "training - reviewing" programs, like CardrunnersEV it doesn't need a lot of input from the users. If, someone likes to customize simulations, this would make the program more complex snd could deviate it from it's main purpose, as "leak finder". In any case. a program cannot do everything, even it is " the Holy Grail". The total procedure of player's improvemnet, cannot be based only in a software program.
On the other hand, it is generally accepted that wrong size bets/raises, is a common leak. In my opinion this has to be indetified through your program.

Close your ears and keep trying...
Thanks man!! We'll add something re: bet sizes!
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:21 AM   #357
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Re: Holy Grail of Poker – Revolutionary Artificial Intelligence as Your Coach (beta)

Please add PLO, it'd be so awesome
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:05 PM   #358
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Please add PLO, it'd be so awesome
AHHH I know!!

I'd love to, but unfortunately at this time it's pretty low on the list (simply because we need to do tournaments and heads up first -- both have a lot of demand and are easier for us to implement than PLO -- but we'll get to it eventually!
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:23 AM   #359
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We recently released a new version: Check it out.

The graphics are much improved...!
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:14 PM   #360
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Ah, right, Its hard to see the () on my huge screen. Any chance you could change the brackets for a negative EV to a red color?
This is done in the new release. Thank you for the suggestion!
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