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ChrisTC · 05-11-2008, 08:51 AM

I currently use Pokeroffice, but Holdem Manager sure looks pretty sweet.

I just have one question: does Holdem Manager's HUD list pot and hand odds? This is a feature I'd hate to miss when switching from Pokeroffice because it makes multitabling a lot faster and much more comfortable.

skreemer7 · 05-11-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisTC

I currently use Pokeroffice, but Holdem Manager sure looks pretty sweet.

I just have one question: does Holdem Manager's HUD list pot and hand odds? This is a feature I'd hate to miss when switching from Pokeroffice because it makes multitabling a lot faster and much more comfortable.

No it doesnt. Thought I read that it doesnt plan to either, but could be completely wrong.

fozzy71 · 05-11-2008, 01:00 PM

No plans for HM, PT3, or PEV to add pot/hand odds for the hand being played.

steel108 · 05-11-2008, 01:38 PM

In the "Reports" and "Sessions" tab, would it be possible to have our rakeback listed and added to our winning, hourly rate, BB/100 etc. I do it with an Excel spreadsheet, but it would be nice to be included in my tracker.

Squeeze stats on HUD please.

$upermad4it · 05-11-2008, 01:40 PM

can someone please confirm what this new 4bet range stat means. so if a player has a high 4 bet stat, but with a relatively low 4bet range stat..his 4bets are more heavily weighted to bluffs?

Praetor · 05-11-2008, 01:43 PM

ETA on Boss support?

effang · 05-11-2008, 02:21 PM

new update is crashing a lot.

replayer no longer works when you click the players report and view the top hand by min 20 bb.

HUD is crashing as well when "notes" are too big.

what is going on here???

effang · 05-11-2008, 02:22 PM

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No it doesnt. Thought I read that it doesnt plan to either, but could be completely wrong.

is this even allowed?

effang · 05-11-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ubeticall

Do you want to use multiple panels? If not, there shouldn't be a performance problem

not true...dude has the q6600 which means he's core 2 quad, which is hurting with HM.

Catyoul · 05-11-2008, 02:40 PM

If you want to see Won $ w/o SD and Won $ at SD in the reports, add these lines to the file 'CustomStats.txt' in the 'Reports' folder of your HEM :

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<Stat ColumnName="Won w/o SD" ValueExpressions="Sum(case when PH.MaxStreetSeen = 4 then 0 else PH.netamountwon end)/100. as TotalWonWOSD" Evaluate="TotalWonWOSD" ColumnHeader="W$woSD" ColumnFormat="0.0" ColumnWidth="60" Tooltip="$ won w/o showdown" />
<Stat ColumnName="Won at SD" ValueExpressions="Sum(case when PH.MaxStreetSeen < 4 then 0 else PH.netamountwon end)/100. as TotalWonATSD" Evaluate="TotalWonATSD" ColumnHeader="W$atSD" ColumnFormat="0.0" ColumnWidth="60" Tooltip="$ won at showdown" />

I don't know how to make it appear with pretty colors though.

rvg72 · 05-11-2008, 04:59 PM

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Since the last update, the panel with the average vpip and the list of the last pots isn't full opacity (while the others still are). Also the opacity setting has only 3 selectable ticks (middle one actually gives the avg vpip panel more opacity, left one hides everything).

Totally unrelated, the standard deviations of different lines in the reports shouldn't be summed (not that averaging would be exactly correct either...).

Ok, duplicated the problem and passed it on to Mike to look at. Also improved the tick bar navigation.

I changed Std Dev totals to be an average in 1.05.06 - not correct but more correct than adding the numbers like you mentioned.

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It's very faster to compare 2 numbers (pot odds payed and pot odds got e.g. for flush) than compute it myself.
It doesn't need to aggregate the stats. Just separate odds for 2pair, trips, flush, straight, etc. would be enough.

Probably not going to happen in the hud, definitely will happen in the replayer.

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It's really hard to get the stats moved in the replayer due to how fast the HUD brings the pop-up stats... quit being so effective and fast you big dumb HUD!

I think we can slow down the popup delay

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Roy: Could you please integrate a $/hr stat into the general report? I know there is this stat in the Session tab but I'd really like it in the general report. Mybe I've just overseen it?

This is a little difficult to do in a report but I have some ideas to make it work. it will take a bit of time though.

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Others & Roy: Do you know any source for new card decks which I could simply use with HEM? I know theres only one image file (a .png) which holds the cards and now I am asking myself (and you) if there are any other image files for other card decks...!?!

Fozzy Rocks - see his posts

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Hi great piece of software,
i wonder how you can set the buyin of a tourney, import tourneysummaries etc.
right now it seems as if i lose 1500$ instead of 1500 tourneychips and the buyin/rebuys etc.

Thnx

Tourney Winnings support is the next big feature being worked on

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I have a feature request - in the report filter, let us have tourney bb equal to numerous amounts. I want to be able to filter it so i have just every level of $6Sngs so I can see what stages I need to improve at, so I need to have the bb of:
20,
30
50
100
150
200
200
400
600
800

This would very much help my SNG game.
Thankyou

Have you tried using the "By Stakes" report? Right now for tourneys this automatically splits between blind levels

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Can't get things working properly on Vista.

If I run HM/HUD as an administrator I can't get the HUD to show up on the screen. It just doesn't appear on the tables.

If I don't run them as an administrator the import doesn't work at all. It just says importing (or auto importing) and then does nothing.

Any ideas?

Well definitely run them both as administrator by right clicking each of them and going into properties and selecting run as administrator. Once this is done it really should work. Does the Table manager show the tables?

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Roy, my database performance is starting to go way downhill. Is there anything I can do to improve it? It took several minutes just now to load "all hands" for my alias; I've only played like 120k hands or something like that in my database, but since I datamine a lot there are a few million total hands in my database and it seems to take forever to do anything with them if I don't set a time filter for hands played only recently. Anything I can do?

If not, would you consider supporting multiple databases at once (like PT2, where you could specifically set an option that would import hands you didn't play in to a separate database)? I rarely need to run reports on my observed hands or anything so as long as the HUD would still load from both DBs, this would improve performance a lot and not really hurt anything.

I'm going to spend some time working on performance again. I suspect a Vacuum Analyze would do wonders for your performance because this size db is small by HM standards and I think postgres is just making poor decisions when running the query. I will look into this further though. Supporting multiple DB's is on the roadmap and will be worked on fairly soon.

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Whenever I go to the players tab and select a players detail window, then select big hands. The replayer doesn't start when I click on 'replay hand' with any random hand. Is this a known problem?

Fixed in 1.05.06

Will answer the rest shortly

rvg

Germack · 05-11-2008, 05:13 PM

I have problems with HH from a player who's name is :* Only when he lost a hand it gets imported correctly. If he won the hand it does not get imported. Strange

Game#1075944134 starts.

#Game No : 1075944134
***** Hand History for Game 1075944134 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 11, 16:02:25 ET 2008
Table Table TH 335 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Richard7PL ( $274.5 )
Seat 2: Germack00 ( $211.25 )
Seat 3: :* ( $200 )
Seat 4: D[e]ader ( $183.8 )
Seat 5: GoHomeFiSh ( $364.05 )
D[e]ader posts small blind [$1].
GoHomeFiSh posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Germack00 [ 3d 2c ]
Richard7PL folds.
Germack00 folds.
:* raises [$7].
D[e]ader raises [$19].
GoHomeFiSh folds.
:* calls [$13].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Ac, Qd ]
D[e]ader checks.
:* checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
D[e]ader checks.
:* bets [$31].
D[e]ader folds.
:* does not show cards.
:* wins $70.9

rvg72 · 05-11-2008, 06:38 PM

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Haven't followed the development for a while, and this 90 page thread is scary big, so forgive me asking: What am I to expect if I install HEM, import 4 million hands, configure maybe 15 stats to the HUD, open up 12 tables of party poker 6max and start playing? Vista 32bit, Q6600, 4GB RAM, 7200RPM HD dedicated for database data files.

Latest HUD works better for most people and there a lot of people playing this many tables / stats etc with much worse systems. I would suggest giving it a try with 1.05.05 or later (www.rvgsoftware.com/hm/hmtestupdate.exe) and disable multiple panels, grab your latest video card drivers, turn off anti virus and see if it meets your expectations.

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How can I get the squeeze stat on my HUD?

Sorry, no squeeze on his at the moment

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Why would you release the replayer like that? I don't ever use the play button to watch hands and now I am forced to.

Needed to get it out for a bunch of reasons - I'm adding the rest of the navigation support to it right now in 1.05.06

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Roy, in the 'reports' section I can pull up and see how much rake I have paid in a period of time. In that period how do I know how muck rakeback I got? If I'm on FTP and get 27% do I just take 27% of the "rake paid" as my rake back? Is this the way the chart function is calculating that blue rakeback line?

Thanks.

(Ultimately of course I can look on my rake back statement from the affiliate, but it is always a day or 2 behind)

You can make a custom stat. Open up CustomStats.txt in your reports folder and add this line:

<Stat ColumnName="Rakeback" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount)/100.0*0.27 as RakeBackAmount" Evaluate="RakeBackAmount" ColumnHeader="Rakeback" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Rakeback based on 27%" />

Then relaunch HM and you'll have the stat in your custom list in the Add Stat dialog.

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In the players tab, is there a way to filter statistics to just 6-max games, or other types? When looking at my player analysis, It's including every hand played, not just 6m, fr, hu, etc. If there would be a way to filter that, that would be fantastic. If anyone knows how to do this lemme know, cause I could've missed it.

Yes, it actually had a section right there showing Min and max # Players right under the stakes listing.

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any way to export/import HUD layouts?

Grab the prefs.xml and pospref.txt files from the config folder and copy to the other pc.

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also...on UB is there somewhere I can see how much BBJ rake I've paid?

No, it would be included with the normal rake.

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Roy - earlier I used the replayer, which loaded the HUD stats for everyone and closed it. The next time I opened a table and sat and played, the HUD popped up even though I hadn't opened it...wtf? Might be related to the HUD loading when I used the replayer?

The replayer opens the HUD

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I'm using HM on UB. Do I still need to use UltimateHistory and have the HH windows open for the importing to work?

Yes you do

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I just have one question: does Holdem Manager's HUD list pot and hand odds? This is a feature I'd hate to miss when switching from Pokeroffice because it makes multitabling a lot faster and much more comfortable.

It does not although it will be available in the replayer. I'm getting a lot of requests for it so we might add it at some point but still most likely it won't happen.

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In the "Reports" and "Sessions" tab, would it be possible to have our rakeback listed and added to our winning, hourly rate, BB/100 etc. I do it with an Excel spreadsheet, but it would be nice to be included in my tracker.

In the reports you can create another custom stat following the directions from above:

<Stat ColumnName="WinningsWithRakeback" ValueExpressions="Sum(PH.RakeAmount)/100.0*0.27 as RakeBackAmount;Sum(PH.NetAmountWon)/100.0 as NetAmountWon" Evaluate="RakeBackAmount+NetAmountWon" ColumnHeader="Winnings wRB" ColumnFormat="$0.00" ColumnWidth="*" Tooltip="Winnings plus rakeback" />

I'll add Rakeback to the sessions tab / calcs in a future update

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can someone please confirm what this new 4bet range stat means.

It is PFR * Raise 3Bet. So it roughly translates into a range. If this number is 0.5% then he is 4betting with monsters but if it is 3% then he's got a much wider range. Like any stat, use your judgment.

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ETA on Boss support?

Sorry, no ETA yet. First priority is making all the current sites work as well as they can and to provide tourney winning support.

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new update is crashing a lot.

Hud or Manager? Can you send me some details?

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replayer no longer works when you click the players report and view the top hand by min 20 bb.

Fixed in 1.05.06

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HUD is crashing as well when "notes" are too big.

Thanks, will look into this

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what is going on here???

Sorry, we had a lot of people using it before launch of 1.05.05 but there were a few things missed. We're working quickly on getting a new version out.

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If you want to see Won $ w/o SD and Won $ at SD in the reports, add these lines to the file 'CustomStats.txt' in the 'Reports' folder of your HEM :

Nice, I added them to HM as default stats in 1.05.06

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#Game No : 1075944134
***** Hand History for Game 1075944134 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 11, 16:02:25 ET 2008
Table Table TH 335 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Richard7PL ( $274.5 )
Seat 2: Germack00 ( $211.25 )
Seat 3: :* ( $200 )
Seat 4: D[e]ader ( $183.8 )
Seat 5: GoHomeFiSh ( $364.05 )
D[e]ader posts small blind [$1].
GoHomeFiSh posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Germack00 [ 3d 2c ]
Richard7PL folds.
Germack00 folds.
:* raises [$7].
D[e]ader raises [$19].
GoHomeFiSh folds.
:* calls [$13].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Ac, Qd ]
D[e]ader checks.
:* checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
D[e]ader checks.
:* bets [$31].
D[e]ader folds.
:* does not show cards.
:* wins $70.9

Fixed in 1.05.06

rvg

gigantic · 05-11-2008, 11:48 PM

Couple of questions. Sorry if they have been asked.

Where can I find the Auto Import (hand history) folder for Eurolinx and Ultimate Bet?

Can I datamine Eurolinx/UB/Stars? Is there an extra step I need to complete in order to import these observed hand histories like in Poker Tracker?

Catyoul · 05-12-2008, 12:39 AM

Please add the possibility to configure the HUD layout AND displayed stats based on the site AND the gametype. I feel I am not the only one who'd like to actually display different stats whether the game is HU or 6max. It's also pretty obvious you want different positions for HU/6max/fullring, it's reasonably clear it's going to be different on every site too. Sometimes it's not enough to reposition though, on some sites there is not going to be enough room to put all the stats comfortably and I might want to split into multiple panels or remove a few less useful stats.