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07-16-2007 , 01:57 PM
FWIW, I have also exported some recent hands from PT (NL cash games) and when I try and import I get the same problem as others: "Completed (0 imported, 0 duplicates, 0 errors).

The problem appears to be specific to my computer as I can't import any hand histories (I tried various types, exported and saved on my hard drive).
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07-16-2007 , 01:59 PM
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ok, lots of questions - I'll try to get them all answered here:

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I get an error saying postgres needs to be installed on NTFS or something like that?
Normally PostgreSQL needs to be installed on an NTFS but your probably have your hard drive setup as FAT32. I'll need a bit of time to figure out the work around - if anyone else knows then please jump in.
Click Start -> Run -> type "cmd" (without the quotes) and hit Enter. Now the command window opens. Type "convert C: /fs:ntfs" and hit Enter. Wait while your drive is being converted to NTFS, and you're done.
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07-16-2007 , 02:01 PM
I'm having similar problems. I imported about 100k hands from processed files folder with about 1000 error files, but when I tried to import the HH that's in my current FTP July HH folder, it imports with Complete: 0 0 0. I checked to see if they were already in but they aren't. Something wrong or am I just an idiot? Thanks.
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07-16-2007 , 02:07 PM
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I'm having similar problems. I imported about 100k hands from processed files folder with about 1000 error files, but when I tried to import the HH that's in my current FTP July HH folder, it imports with Complete: 0 0 0. I checked to see if they were already in but they aren't. Something wrong or am I just an idiot? Thanks.
Something definately wrong... I'm at work right now but when I get home tonight I'll be focusing completely on figuring out what this problem is.

rvg
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07-16-2007 , 02:10 PM
thanks for you answer regarding the 100.0 3bet%.

i looked through your program and database and noticed that you "cut" partypoker HHs wrong: theres always the "Game #5609898428 starts." and "#Game No : 5609898428" lines at the end of a stored HH, but this stuff actually belongs to the next hand

another thing:
with party poker handhistories you might want to get rid of all ">You have options at Table XYZ.." lines before storing them in your DB!

i had to write my own program to do this on ptrackers existing databases.
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07-16-2007 , 02:11 PM
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The only thing I have noticed is that I can't find it in my Program list on the start menu (Vista Ultimate)
You need to create a short cut for this.


I don't know your level of computer technical ability, so forgive me if I'm over explaining things.


Load up Windows Explorer

Navigate to the Holdem Manager Folder

Right-click and drag the program file to your start menu
I fixed it, but it shouldn't take much to add this to the installer pack.

Not complaining, just pointing it out incase he wants to fix that.
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07-16-2007 , 02:19 PM
Can someone help with installing PostgreSQL on Vista, I get error message 'user account cannot be created: access denied'
Thanks
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07-16-2007 , 02:32 PM
Just to be 100% Safe, PokerStars is OK with this program and people using it?
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07-16-2007 , 02:38 PM
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Just to be 100% Safe, PokerStars is OK with this program and people using it?
I'm sure they will be fine, but that's a good point and rvg72 should probably run it by them, and get it on the "approved list" asap.
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07-16-2007 , 02:39 PM
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Can someone help with installing PostgreSQL on Vista, I get error message 'user account cannot be created: access denied'
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1) Make sure that you unzip the file before you try to install or you get a problem like this.

2) You will probably need to turn off "User Access Control (UAC)" in order for it to work. This only means that you won't be able to have multiple user logins on the computer.
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07-16-2007 , 02:40 PM
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Just to be 100% Safe, PokerStars is OK with this program and people using it?
It isn't on the official "ok" list yet but I have spoken briefly with Alex at Stars and it seems that nothing I am doing would put it on the banned list and I will obviously work with them and keep it that way.

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The only thing I have noticed is that I can't find it in my Program list on the start menu (Vista Ultimate)
Thanks for letting me know - not sure why the installer did not add it but I'll look into it.

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what was the final list for supported sites for Beta 1
Stars / Party / Full Tilt. Will add many more later but not until things are closer to being ready.

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what i mean is this: i created an alias called hero and added my screenname on stars and party and fulltilt to it. no problem.

now that i select Hero as Player, is there any way to filter both the stars and party hands but without the fulltilt hands? -> is there a way to filter by pokersite other than using the original screennames?
Yeah, you can have each of your aliases appear as seperate line items in the reports. I'll explain how tonight (need to do it myself first so I explain it right)

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"Unhandled exception in the application... blah blah.

InvalidArgument=Value of 0 is invalid for parameter SelectedIndex

Seems like you're defaulting to a selected index of 0 for some dropdown? That's throwing an out of range exception.
ok thanks - pretty sure it is regional setting related and I'll try to figure it out.
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07-16-2007 , 02:45 PM
great product! love what I see so far

PT should be ashamed
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07-16-2007 , 02:47 PM
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Just tried the following:

Exported a bunch of stars hands from PT, about 19k
Unzipped some datamined hands from Party

Tried importing them both.
It scanned all files and imported 0 hands.

You want a screenshot?
I'm pretty sure I already fixes the Poker Tracker Stars export problem and I'm working on what might be the same problem you found with Party.

If you could send me one hand history of each to Tourneymgr@gmail.com I could make sure that the fix is in.

Thanks,

rvg
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Ok I just tried exporting full tilt hands and loading those, same result, officially cant load any of my hand histories :-(

Exactly the same here
I'll hopefully get to the bottom of this today. What I know for sure is that the hand history files themselves are ok since one of the people having this problem was able to take the same HH's to a different pc and it worked.

The new version I release tonight (0.12b) will have some additional logging to try and help figure this out.

Thanks,

rvg
I had exactly the same problem with German regional settings, but when I changed the settings to english regional settings, the import worked without problems.
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07-16-2007 , 02:47 PM
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Can someone help with installing PostgreSQL on Vista, I get error message 'user account cannot be created: access denied'
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Click your start button, then click in the search box (very bottom left text box). Type "cmd" and wait (DON'T PRESS ENTER!). Cmd.exe will show up on the left side of the start menu, right click Cmd.exe and choose "Run as administrator".

Then change directories to where you downloaded the install program (ie. "cd C:\users\yourusernamehere\Desktop" if you downloaded the program to your desktop.). Then type the name of the install program and press enter (ie. "HoldemManagerSetupProject.msi").

That should do it for you.
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07-16-2007 , 02:50 PM
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Just tried the following:

Exported a bunch of stars hands from PT, about 19k
Unzipped some datamined hands from Party

Tried importing them both.
It scanned all files and imported 0 hands.

You want a screenshot?
I'm pretty sure I already fixes the Poker Tracker Stars export problem and I'm working on what might be the same problem you found with Party.

If you could send me one hand history of each to Tourneymgr@gmail.com I could make sure that the fix is in.

Thanks,

rvg
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Ok I just tried exporting full tilt hands and loading those, same result, officially cant load any of my hand histories :-(

Exactly the same here
I'll hopefully get to the bottom of this today. What I know for sure is that the hand history files themselves are ok since one of the people having this problem was able to take the same HH's to a different pc and it worked.

The new version I release tonight (0.12b) will have some additional logging to try and help figure this out.

Thanks,

rvg
I had exactly the same problem with German regional settings, but when I changed the settings to english regional settings, the import worked without problems.
I think you just saved me a ton of time

I still need to get it working with other regional settings though but thanks for hopefully identifying the problem.

rvg
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07-16-2007 , 02:50 PM
Bug Report
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Windows regional setting: German

From original PP HH files containing ~15000 hands, I got ~2500 error msg during import.
TThe rest of the hands got imported. But now if I search for my name or ANY name HH finds nothing. Even searches with *c (for example) have no results.

"Fix": Changing windows reginal setting to US (like PT does)

I let the 179 HH files imported again. Result:

For most of the files i got the message: Duplicated file skiped.
Around 20 files HM tried to import again. Most were: (0 importet, 0 duplicated, 0 errors)
Just from one file HM imported 4 hands.

Now with (US reginal setting) HM founded my name. But if i run report or anything else, I only get stats for these 4 hands.

Obviously the Hands that i import under german reginal settings are "lost" in the database.

I will try to figure out how to delete the HM Database and try to import all hands new under US setting ans post the result.

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Del of the HM Database can easly done by PT (Postgres database functions) for those, who have no experience with pgADMIM like me ;-)
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07-16-2007 , 02:51 PM
Hey RVG, How about setting up a mailing list I can join so when this comes out I can go ahead and buy it? Also, you mentioned a $10 discount if you purchased it the first week. If you own TM will you get another discount on top of that?
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07-16-2007 , 02:59 PM
few quickies

-mentioned previously, but wtsd% #s are not correct under the showdown filter. the numbers are inaccurate and when you hover over them the raw #s don't even match the % listed. e.g. wtsd%: 57.4%/raw #s 1147/5309

-please include "cbet% in position" and "cbet% out of position" under the players tab. same for "fold to cbet".
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07-16-2007 , 03:12 PM
Downloaded and Installed HM Beta 0.11b effortlessly (already had Postgres 8.0.0 and NET framework). Took some effort to locate the Postgres password, but found it in the registry.

Started HM and and began "import from folder". (I exported all my Stars and FT hands from PT last night to a "special" folder for this.) HM started importing right away.


It has been running 18 minutes and has imported 67 of 1732 files for a total of 19,471 hands. No duplicates, so far, and only 53 import errors.

HM is using less than 5% of my CPU and Postgres is using approx. 35-45%. (I run XP Pro on a 4.3Ghz HT CPU and 2 Gig RAM.)

My estimated Time Remaining is 7 Hours 29 Minutes, and the Hands per second has crept downward from 23.2 to 18.1.

I tried to stop HM, to move some of the files and reduce to import quantity, but HM said it could not stop in the middle of an export.

I guess I have a while till I can play around with this. I'm SURE that the wait will be worth it. HM sounds amazing.

edited to add: version number
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07-16-2007 , 03:16 PM
another suggestion..

i'd like to look at things like, "how often people fold to me after i 3bet the flop all-in". general filters that showed me how often people fold to my cbets or river bets would be helpful

re: kotkis' suggestion, i'd rather display the median and standard deviation for each stat under the "player" tab. median cbet % and sd of cbet% for top 100 winners with >5000 hands, for example.
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07-16-2007 , 03:27 PM
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Can someone help with installing PostgreSQL on Vista, I get error message 'user account cannot be created: access denied'
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1) Make sure that you unzip the file before you try to install or you get a problem like this.

2) You will probably need to turn off "User Access Control (UAC)" in order for it to work. This only means that you won't be able to have multiple user logins on the computer.
Thanks, works now.

RVG, imported around 15k hands with only around 50 errors at around 23 hands per sec. Looks great so far, will give proper feedback when I've had more of a play
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07-16-2007 , 04:04 PM
Key feature request:

At the bottom of each report, generate averages for each field (like PT does).
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07-16-2007 , 04:08 PM
Everyone,

Thanks for the feedback, suggestions and bug reports here and on my forums. I'm taking note of them all and putting together a giant semi-prioritized list along with a FAQ.

For the next couple of days at least I will almost 100% focused on fixing bugs or adding functionality that helps better deal with bugs. By the end of the week I should be able to start layering in new functionality and spend more time working on documentation.

The "?" symbol on the title bar next to the min and max buttons is going to link to help for the current tab you are looking at. You can see the beginning of this right now by clicking on the "?" when on the import tab although I think it is already out of date!

A lot of the suggestions are things that are already in progress or at least planned and many of the others are too good to not include with the software so keep it up.

Try using my forums for bugs / suggestions though because this thread is gigantic and I don't want to miss anything important.

Thanks!

rvg
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07-16-2007 , 04:18 PM
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Key feature request:

At the bottom of each report, generate averages for each field (like PT does).
this is a must, I like to know the stats of various sites on certain days when I'm mining

say one site is 35/9, the other is 32/11, it's an obv. choice where to play

thanks



EDIT: I imported at about 48h/sec earlier over 113k hands, works great
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07-16-2007 , 04:22 PM
Wow this software is incredible, definitely purchasing asap and using primarily (especially if SS supports it and the hud is good).

I'm a little confused though after looking at the "detailed postflop stats." It appears that the old W$SF from PT is the new W$SD after checking several different players over big samples and seeing that their W$SF from PT was identical to their W$SD on HM. That can't be correct at all buy maybe I'm missing something.

And I'm under the impression the new W$SF from HM doesn't include unraised pots (this is good)? I'm really confused here actually because the numbers they give you for W$SF (for example 2937 of 6955) does not equal the percent displayed, instead it equals the W$SD % listed aka the standard W$SF% stat from PT.

Can I please get some clarification on this? Which stats are incorrectly calculated or in the wrong collumn?

Also, if you haven't already please include a W$SF stat that does NOT include unraised pots, only hands where you VP$IP.
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