Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Commercial Software Discussion of commercial gambling-related / poker software & commercial graphics modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-02-2016, 02:13 AM   #151
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

I have a feeling that the lag is caused by the database interaction. Looks like drivehud is doing joins, and full table scans. The more rows you get added the worse the problem is going to be. I have a feeling there might be some lock contention as well. Tailing the query log for postgres my cpu was spikes were directly related to the drive hud queries.
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 10:33 AM   #152
dikface
banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 140
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

I dl the free trial with intentions of purchasing. I play on betonline. I can't get this thing to work.Im quite useless when it comes to techy stuff, can someone please please give me detailed instructions on how to use this thing? I play on both bovada and bol @ sametime but only need this product to work for betonline. TYTY
dikface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 10:57 AM   #153
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by dikface View Post
I dl the free trial with intentions of purchasing. I play on betonline. I can't get this thing to work.Im quite useless when it comes to techy stuff, can someone please please give me detailed instructions on how to use this thing? I play on both bovada and bol @ sametime but only need this product to work for betonline. TYTY
I think it just worked for me on BOL. If it doesn't, try telling BOL to save your hand histories.
I think when on a table click "History", "Options", Check "Save my hand histories".
If that doesn't work I can see what settings I have when I get home.
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 11:16 AM   #154
dikface
banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 140
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Thanks zeeawk. I will try this when I get a chance to log on.
dikface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 02:07 PM   #155
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeawk View Post
I have a feeling that the lag is caused by the database interaction. Looks like drivehud is doing joins, and full table scans. The more rows you get added the worse the problem is going to be. I have a feeling there might be some lock contention as well. Tailing the query log for postgres my cpu was spikes were directly related to the drive hud queries.
No, that's not what's going on. I don't have any lags when I play, and I have a larger database than you do, and less system memory. We know what the issue is in your case and it's a combination of how bovada handles the data, and the fact it's forcing your screen to the forefront, which we have not seen before. No one our end is having this happen. We'll figure it out.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 02:11 PM   #156
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by dikface View Post
I dl the free trial with intentions of purchasing. I play on betonline. I can't get this thing to work.Im quite useless when it comes to techy stuff, can someone please please give me detailed instructions on how to use this thing? I play on both bovada and bol @ sametime but only need this product to work for betonline. TYTY
You don't need to do anything. Just load drivehud. Make sure the HUD button up top shows a STOP icon. You have to wait for one full hand to play before you'll see the HUD. There's literally nothing else you need to do.

Online manual is here if you need it:
http://drivehud.com/blog/manual/
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 02:24 PM   #157
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakDaddy View Post
No, that's not what's going on. I don't have any lags when I play, and I have a larger database than you do, and less system memory. We know what the issue is in your case and it's a combination of how bovada handles the data, and the fact it's forcing your screen to the forefront, which we have not seen before. No one our end is having this happen. We'll figure it out.
How many hands do you have in your database?
At around 4k or so hands without Bovada running it takes a few seconds just to switch from the hud tab to the dashboard because it's querying all the data.
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 03:06 PM   #158
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Any database is going to take time to load data, but it should be < 1 sec. Make sure you have your bottom grid set to last 100 hands, and not all hands. I have over 200k+ hands right now on this particular system. It does take a couple of seconds to load going from HUD to dashboard. We're not doing many joins or full table scans though. We are going to optimize this more though.

What version are you running?

Last edited by FreakDaddy; 09-02-2016 at 03:25 PM.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 03:25 PM   #159
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

DriveHud: 1.0.2.465
Postgress: 8.4
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 06:34 PM   #160
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Ya, 8.4 is not good and has lots of performance issues. Drivehud defaults w/ installing 9.5, and not all data is stored in the DB. We have our own flat file + DB use. I'd recommend allowing it to install 9.5 and putting DH database there. I guess you canceled this process during install.

Like I said though, our entire focus is going to be on improving performance for people who have systems that cause any delay. We know why some people are seeing this and others are not, so it's just a matter of a few changes that should make a big difference.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 06:44 PM   #161
dikface
banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 140
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakDaddy View Post
You don't need to do anything. Just load drivehud. Make sure the HUD button up top shows a STOP icon. You have to wait for one full hand to play before you'll see the HUD. There's literally nothing else you need to do.

Online manual is here if you need it:
http://drivehud.com/blog/manual/
Thanks. Now I can get it done. I just needed detailed instructions.
dikface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 06:50 PM   #162
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

DriveHUD – update | v1.0.2.487
http://drivehud.com/poker-hud/DriveH...v1.0.2.487.exe

Change log:
- added player seat number to the player type icon tooltip
- fixed hud mis-position issues
- changed power button to support button
- added apps tab
- added WWSF stat to the popular section
- changed default hud to vertical
- omaha hand export
- make section between reports and hand grid expandable
- updated default stats colors for BOL HUD
- fixed stakes filter
- added limp stats
- improved logging
- fixed import problems after switching tables in mtt
- Fixed stats loader
- Fixed All-in equity hands column
- Database version check
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 07:24 PM   #163
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakDaddy View Post
Ya, 8.4 is not good and has lots of performance issues. Drivehud defaults w/ installing 9.5, and not all data is stored in the DB. We have our own flat file + DB use. I'd recommend allowing it to install 9.5 and putting DH database there. I guess you canceled this process during install.

Like I said though, our entire focus is going to be on improving performance for people who have systems that cause any delay. We know why some people are seeing this and others are not, so it's just a matter of a few changes that should make a big difference.
Actually no I didn't cancel anything. It looks like it installed it just fine (I have 8.4 and 9.5 installed).
The postgres installer must have been smart enough to know that another postgres( or something else) was using that port and it changed the port of 9.5.

Then drivehud installed to 8.4 because that was the defaults it had.
8.4 was installed when I was trying HM2. My guess is this would happen to anyone that has a previous installation that used the same default credentials. They wouldn't even know it unless they went digging around.

I'm going export and import into the 9.5 and fix things up.
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 02:39 AM   #164
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Would there be a way to backup the database, clear everything out and play some hands to see if things improve? And then re-import the hands that were dumped so I don't lose any hand history?
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 03:58 AM   #165
dlmcg3
newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 28
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Thanks for the updates. It's nice to see feedback being incorporated into new builds of the software.

I had the very same problem as zeeawk. I had an older version of HM2 installed on my computer which had installed Postgres 8.4. When I installed DH it installed Postgres 9.5 and started the server but never connected to it. Thus I had both Postgres 8.4 and 9.5 servers running on my system and didn't know it.

as per Zeeawk's suggestion I installed the Postgres admin tool and noticed that DH was using 8.4 instead of 9.5. I backed up the 8.4 DH tables. then restored them on the 9.5 server. Afterwards I uninstalled Postgres 8.4 so there would not be any conflicts.

I re ran DH and verified that only 9.5 was running and everything worked.

I was hoping the upgrade from 8.4 to 9.5 would resolve my lag issues but sadly it did not. I now have about 9k hands in my DB and the lag is getting so bad that i've actually timed out on a couple hands where i've clicked either call or raise and the mouse clicks did not register until after the timer ran out. Even minimizing/maximizing the DH is taking 10+ seconds.

As a side note my swap file is disabled because you only need a swap file if you are out of ram. If i'm running out of 16GB of ram then i'm doing something very wrong. Even with NO swap/page file I still get the broken rebuy bug and i'm pretty sure the user who thinks setting the swap file to a particular size will solve his rebuy problem is propagating an old wive's tale.

I really like the utility of the DH software, but at the rate things are going I'm guessing by the time i hit 10-12k hands in the DB everything will be so unresponsive that I won't even be able to use it anymore without constant risk of being timed out of hands.

Again to be clear if i play on 4 bovada tables without DH running i'm not experiencing any of the lag issues. By "lag" i mean where I click on a UI element and it does not register my mouse clicks for some number of seconds.
dlmcg3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 12:57 PM   #166
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeawk View Post
Would there be a way to backup the database, clear everything out and play some hands to see if things improve? And then re-import the hands that were dumped so I don't lose any hand history?
Not yet, or at least not an easy way. Going from 8.4 to 9.5 won't fix your lag issue though. We know why this is happening, and like I said it will be addressed next build. It's one of those things that you just don't know about until release because we've literally just did not see it with any of our testers or internally, and we had several 2+2 testers using it.

Any ways, this will be addressed next build.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 01:01 PM   #167
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by dlmcg3 View Post
Thanks for the updates. It's nice to see feedback being incorporated into new builds of the software.

I had the very same problem as zeeawk. I had an older version of HM2 installed on my computer which had installed Postgres 8.4. When I installed DH it installed Postgres 9.5 and started the server but never connected to it. Thus I had both Postgres 8.4 and 9.5 servers running on my system and didn't know it.
Yes, sorry I didn't get to respond in time to explain that isn't going to help. It will help long term, but not with your particular issue. Thanks for your logs we know why there's this issue, and like I was just saying, it will be addressed and fixed next build. For some strange reason your setup keeps bringing DH to the foreground. I haven't seen this, and no one had seen it before, but I guess the developers know why it's happened.

I'll let you know when the build is up that addresses this.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 06:06 PM   #168
dlmcg3
newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 28
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

I give up. I can't deal with the severe lag. I turned off DH in the middle of a session without leaving any tables and as soon as DH was off all the lag went away. I tried sending you one final log file in game. I'm unsure if it went through. I did receive 5 email confirmations that you got it.

Good Luck!
dlmcg3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2016, 07:00 PM   #169
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by dlmcg3 View Post
I give up. I can't deal with the severe lag. I turned off DH in the middle of a session without leaving any tables and as soon as DH was off all the lag went away. I tried sending you one final log file in game. I'm unsure if it went through. I did receive 5 email confirmations that you got it.

Good Luck!
You received 5 e-mail that we got it?

Yeah, I know what your issue is like I said. The problem is we had never seen it and can't reproduce it, but the developers know from the log the paging issue that's happening. So like I said, it will be fixed next build. It's actually not a big change that needs to happen to fix it.

I play on there regularly with drivehud and never see it myself, so it's something specific that apparently the development team understands.

Thanks for sending the log and the info. I appreciate it.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 01:37 PM   #170
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by dlmcg3 View Post
I give up. I can't deal with the severe lag.
We fixed your pagging lag issue. The main issue is no matter how many beta testers we have, there's just no way on first release to see and know all of the potential setups. It was an easy fix honestly, so I'll have an update build w/ this fix in it likely later today since a couple of people said they were effected by it. We tested yesterday and are testing today. It should be completely gone w/ this next update.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 02:46 PM   #171
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakDaddy View Post
We fixed your pagging lag issue. The main issue is no matter how many beta testers we have, there's just no way on first release to see and know all of the potential setups. It was an easy fix honestly, so I'll have an update build w/ this fix in it likely later today since a couple of people said they were effected by it. We tested yesterday and are testing today. It should be completely gone w/ this next update.
That's great news. Can't wait to test.

I'd like to suggest that you move the stop/play button off of the hud tab and next to settings button. I think this makes more sense from in terms of UI design and would allow you to stop/start the hud without switching tabs.

Also I feel like the import option should really be in the settings menu. It's not something you need to do often and if you do it would make sense you would find it there.

I still can't figure out how to load/apply a filter I have saved. When I click load and select it from the file system nothing appears to happen. Am I missing a step?
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 02:56 PM   #172
zeeawk
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 48
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Also I was wondering if you know how far off adding support for ACR is ?
zeeawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 05:11 PM   #173
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeawk View Post
That's great news. Can't wait to test.

I'd like to suggest that you move the stop/play button off of the hud tab and next to settings button. I think this makes more sense from in terms of UI design and would allow you to stop/start the hud without switching tabs.

Also I feel like the import option should really be in the settings menu. It's not something you need to do often and if you do it would make sense you would find it there.

I still can't figure out how to load/apply a filter I have saved. When I click load and select it from the file system nothing appears to happen. Am I missing a step?
Yeah, stress testing it went from 10sec delay w/ 4 tables on 60k hands for hero, to 300ms. So it's safe to say that if you had this issue, it should be gone. I think it took them all of an hour to fix. The developers tried to explain why some people would have it and others wouldn't, and it was a little over my head. But it appears fixed.

You shouldn't have to switch tabs to stop/start the HUD. Just click the play/stop button. But if you just leave it on play (stop showing) all the time you really shouldn't ever need to do anything with it.

We're going to be putting up some videos on filter and HUD creation this week. We've been holding off on he HUD creation because we have a really amazing new HUD designer setup that is going in. So we didn't want to re-do it, but I'm not just saying this, but the design area is pretty sick / amazing.

Send me your filter maybe (send to support or PM). Once you save it and name it, when you load it, it will just show up in in the middle of the screen (so you'll see that section and it will have the filter with the X at the top). Maybe try one of the saved ones from the download section and see if it will load for you:

http://drivehud.com/blog/forums/foru...ayer-profiles/

ACR support is 3rd on the list right now. We have another site going in likely this week (finishing testing), then another one, then ACR. It shouldn't be too long, but I don't have a specific ETA.

Last edited by FreakDaddy; 09-05-2016 at 05:22 PM.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 08:04 PM   #174
dlmcg3
newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 28
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

I'm glad to hear you were able to find/fix the lag issue. I'm eager to try it out. I'm running 1.0.2.487 but the updater doesn't show any newer builds available. Is the new build out yet?
dlmcg3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2016, 09:42 PM   #175
FreakDaddy
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
FreakDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Making great poker HUDs
Posts: 9,216
Re: DriveHUD - Poker HUD & Database Software

No, I'm putting it up now. It won't be up as an auto update until tomorrow. You can download and install it from here though:

DriveHUD – update | v1.0.2.491
http://drivehud.com/poker-hud/DriveH...v1.0.2.491.exe

Change log:
- Lag paging issue fix
- Data optimization

On non-expired trials, I reset them all to 25 days. Just to give everyone extra time to try.

Last edited by FreakDaddy; 09-05-2016 at 09:56 PM.
FreakDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ę 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online