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07-20-2017 , 12:22 AM
Hi scylla,

Are you able to add a import option with a Hand2Note hand? (I hope you know this software exist.)

thx in advance!
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07-20-2017 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by shetu
Hi scylla,

Are you able to add a import option with a Hand2Note hand? (I hope you know this software exist.)

thx in advance!
We're a little busy at the moment with our upcoming release, however, I'll see what I can do.
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07-20-2017 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sev Mile Dogg
I'm new to this software and cant wrap my head around it. I can't set up a tree for 3 handed play in a 9 man stt? The only option I see for number the number of runners are at 6 and 10; which throws the prize pool off. Only calculating options seem to be only for 2 players to a flop.

Can u please steer me in the right direction GTO+/CardRunnersEV?
Everything that you need to set up the hand is available in the startup screen.

In the upper right you can select that the hand is a tournament hand. In the table you can select the active players in the hand (so leave out the ones that don't do anything). All that matters here is the relative positions, so you can use either the 6 or 10-handed option. You can use the buttons "blinds/rake" and "set stacks" to set all relevant data regarding blinds and stacks.

If possible, try keeping the hand heads-up, given that this will lead to simpler trees, as well as the engine being capable of enumerating the calculations (as opposed having to switch to monte carlo). If a player does not do anything significant in the hand, then leave him out. This will also apply to postflop spots where only two players reach the flop. In that case leave out the preflop play and just start the tree on the flop with two players.




Click on "Tournament data" to enter the prize structure and data on inactive players. So, basically, this is actually where you enter data on the inactive players; it's not in the table itself. See the pic below for an example.




Finally, should you want to change any settings after the tree has been created with "start tree!", then you can use the quickbuttons in the lower left.

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07-22-2017 , 04:05 AM
Any news for the software update?
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07-22-2017 , 07:29 AM
I'm scared to run multiple bet sizings for a simulation like i think my laptop will explode, i have an i5 core laptop that is 2 years old and obviously whenever i run sim's it's always @ 100% CPU...

Given my laptop specs/it being 2 years old (never had a virus and isn't running slow or what not), it should be good to handle like 2 minute+ CREV Calc's?

Don't know much about computers or how CPU works, but running high CPU for calcing data is different then running high CPU for like a video game or infected computer or w/e?
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07-23-2017 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
I'm scared to run multiple bet sizings for a simulation like i think my laptop will explode, i have an i5 core laptop that is 2 years old and obviously whenever i run sim's it's always @ 100% CPU...

Given my laptop specs/it being 2 years old (never had a virus and isn't running slow or what not), it should be good to handle like 2 minute+ CREV Calc's?

Don't know much about computers or how CPU works, but running high CPU for calcing data is different then running high CPU for like a video game or infected computer or w/e?
I can't say that I've ever had any issues with this myself (and I have performed extensive runs), nor have any been reported to me. As long as you're not overclocking your computer or have massive buildup of dust within it, then I would expect this to be within its operational limits.

That being said, although I've never encountered overheating myself, I have googled it for you and apparently you can use a program like coretemp to both measure your computers CPU temperature, as well as its maximum temperature: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. So you can at the very least use that to see where you're at.



Other than that, you can of course contact the manufacturer of your laptop for this question.
Or should someone here in the forum have experience with this subject, then please let us know.

Last edited by scylla; 07-23-2017 at 08:01 AM.
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07-23-2017 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Any news for the software update?
Although not available yet, within slightly over a week, we will be offering an entirely new program for our solver, that has been specifically designed to be extremely easy to use, as well as offer several improvements and new features.



The release date for GTO+ has been set as 1/8/2017.
For more details please visit our website: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html

Last edited by scylla; 07-23-2017 at 08:00 AM.
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07-23-2017 , 10:22 AM
so after the beta is finished you will have gto+ and cardrunnersev,or will you switch completly to gto+?
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07-23-2017 , 01:02 PM
"Anyone who purchased CardRunnersEV after 31 December 2014 will receive GTO+ for free."
So anyone who purchased before? Discount?
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07-23-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pronto
so after the beta is finished you will have gto+ and cardrunnersev,or will you switch completly to gto+?
We will support both, however, obviously, development of new features will be focussed on GTO+.
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07-23-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Teddy bear
"Anyone who purchased CardRunnersEV after 31 December 2014 will receive GTO+ for free."
So anyone who purchased before? Discount?
Yes, we will indeed offer a discount to earlier users.
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07-23-2017 , 02:05 PM
Looking forward to seeing this - can we have some pictures of what it will look like
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07-23-2017 , 02:16 PM
Yeah, some screens would be great to see.
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07-23-2017 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blunderer
Looking forward to seeing this - can we have some pictures of what it will look like
It will only be one week, which isn't that long, so we'll just hold of on screenshots for the time being. That being said, the new interface has a modern appearance and is line-based (although tree-based will be re-introduced within a few months). I do feel I need to stress that the software will be offered in beta for the moment until development is completed. Not all features are available yet*; final development will still take a few months; we just want to offer a beta for a while instead of immediately jumping to a finished product. In that manner we can hopefully spot any bugs in order to ensure a quality product, as well as gather feedback from our users.


*=Most of the functionality that is currently in CardRunnersEV is present in the beta. The tree building wizard is however only present in a very basic form, so some users may miss the ability to custom build trees for the moment. This option will most surely be added in one of the upcoming updates though. There's no major new features at this point, although there's quite a few improvements that make working with GTO+ quite pleasant, such as for example instant+automated calculations.
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07-23-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Although not available yet, within slightly over a week, we will be offering an entirely new program for our solver, that has been specifically designed to be extremely easy to use, as well as offer several improvements and new features.



The release date for GTO+ has been set as 1/8/2017.
For more details please visit our website: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html
You've been working too hard. We are well past 1/8/2017

Kidding. August 1st folks.
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07-24-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I can't say that I've ever had any issues with this myself (and I have performed extensive runs), nor have any been reported to me. As long as you're not overclocking your computer or have massive buildup of dust within it, then I would expect this to be within its operational limits.

That being said, although I've never encountered overheating myself, I have googled it for you and apparently you can use a program like coretemp to both measure your computers CPU temperature, as well as its maximum temperature: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. So you can at the very least use that to see where you're at.



Other than that, you can of course contact the manufacturer of your laptop for this question.
Or should someone here in the forum have experience with this subject, then please let us know.
Thank you for the informative & helpful post scylla
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07-24-2017 , 02:00 AM
How do i run max exploit so that i can see how frequencies change on earlier streets when villain deviates on current/later streets?

A bit wordy question, basically i'm unable to run max exploit for flop + turn when i'm OTR say villain plays GTO/nash up until the river and OTR i set assumptions/deviations for him.

So nash had villain betting 59.1% i changed it to 19.1% and i'm only able to see max exploit strat for river only (like i don't have the options in the menu to checkmark turn or flop)
In this specific nash simulation hero calls all his flush combos OTT and has a smallish turn raising frequency, and OTR i want to see if hero's turn frequencies/strategies will change if villain bet's infrequently OTR/never bluffs.

Last edited by Evoxgsr96; 07-24-2017 at 02:05 AM.
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07-24-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
How do i run max exploit so that i can see how frequencies change on earlier streets when villain deviates on current/later streets?

A bit wordy question, basically i'm unable to run max exploit for flop + turn when i'm OTR say villain plays GTO/nash up until the river and OTR i set assumptions/deviations for him.

So nash had villain betting 59.1% i changed it to 19.1% and i'm only able to see max exploit strat for river only (like i don't have the options in the menu to checkmark turn or flop)
In this specific nash simulation hero calls all his flush combos OTT and has a smallish turn raising frequency, and OTR i want to see if hero's turn frequencies/strategies will change if villain bet's infrequently OTR/never bluffs.
If you have set the river, then the max exploit feature will indeed not work on previous streets. After all, you would be asking it to change the past in full knowledge of which river card is to come.

In order to accomplish this, you would instead need to enter villain's strategy via conditions and set the river as unknown so that you have defined villain's play for all possible river runouts:



I think it would probably be a better idea to use the solver here instead of the max exploit tool though.
So just run this flop hand with and without locks and see how the strategy changes.

Last edited by scylla; 07-24-2017 at 11:53 AM.
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07-24-2017 , 06:53 PM
I hope GTO+ includes a full preflop solver (admittedly using maybe a flop subset as PIO?). I have used the new equilibrium solver and its pretty fast so that feature is on the to do list Scylla? ATM the preflop solver restriction "no flop play" is really prohibitive for making GTO+ my go to GTO program.

Although, I primarily use PIO for flop calcs I must say that I will buy GTO+ cause to be honest the level of support that Scylla has given on CREV/flopzilla all those years is WITHOUT comparison. Anyone should buy this program for this reason alone if you ask me.
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07-25-2017 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Azalin
I hope GTO+ includes a full preflop solver (admittedly using maybe a flop subset as PIO?). I have used the new equilibrium solver and its pretty fast so that feature is on the to do list Scylla? ATM the preflop solver restriction "no flop play" is really prohibitive for making GTO+ my go to GTO program.

Although, I primarily use PIO for flop calcs I must say that I will buy GTO+ cause to be honest the level of support that Scylla has given on CREV/flopzilla all those years is WITHOUT comparison. Anyone should buy this program for this reason alone if you ask me.
For what to expect, and also what not to expect, please see the description on our website:
http://www.cardrunnersev.com/gtoplus.html.

Last edited by scylla; 07-25-2017 at 04:42 PM.
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07-26-2017 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If you have set the river, then the max exploit feature will indeed not work on previous streets. After all, you would be asking it to change the past in full knowledge of which river card is to come.

In order to accomplish this, you would instead need to enter villain's strategy via conditions and set the river as unknown so that you have defined villain's play for all possible river runouts:



I think it would probably be a better idea to use the solver here instead of the max exploit tool though.
So just run this flop hand with and without locks and see how the strategy changes.
Thank you again.
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07-26-2017 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I think it would probably be a better idea to use the solver here instead of the max exploit tool though.
So just run this flop hand with and without locks and see how the strategy changes.
In regards to the bolded part scylla it's impossible to run the nash equilibrium solver when i have set locks, like the program won't let me (confused?)

Actually i was able to do the nash thing like u said with the nash equilibrium solver button and it gave me a wonky answer like 1E something something...

The max exploit tool answer made sense though.
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07-26-2017 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
In regards to the bolded part scylla it's impossible to run the nash equilibrium solver when i have set locks, like the program won't let me (confused?)

Actually i was able to do the nash thing like u said with the nash equilibrium solver button and it gave me a wonky answer like 1E something something...

The max exploit tool answer made sense though.
Is there an error message?
Or can you send a savefile to support?
It's hard to know what's going on without seeing the actual situation.
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07-30-2017 , 05:58 PM
After i downloaded the gto+ upgrade i tried to use crev and it doesnt recognize my license (it has reverted to trial mode). Thanks in advance
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07-31-2017 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gcm1998
After i downloaded the gto+ upgrade i tried to use crev and it doesnt recognize my license (it has reverted to trial mode). Thanks in advance
You can simply request a new key for CardRunnersEV here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/requestkey.html
It will be sent to you within a few minutes of your request.

Should you not have received your key within 5 minutes, then please contact support with your hardware ID and we will generate your key for you manually.

Hardware ID?
To get your hardware ID, start CardRunnersEV and go to "register" in its menu.
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