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12-27-2016 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Moshiach
Is there a release for any Linux/Unix platform?
No, the user base for these platforms is way too small to justify the programming effort.
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12-28-2016 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
The text input does not include weights at the moment.
I can look into it for later versions, but right now it's not there.
please do.
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12-28-2016 , 08:47 PM
Is there a fast way to move all your saved holecard ranges from one computer to another, rather than re-entering everything?
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12-29-2016 , 02:24 AM
in older versions of this diagram is displayed without the flop cards.
how to show the new version?

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12-29-2016 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Moshiach
Is there a fast way to move all your saved holecard ranges from one computer to another, rather than re-entering everything?
Are you referring to your preflop ranges in the preflop editor?
Those are stored in the file newdefs2.txt.
Copying that file to the new computer is all you'll need to do.

In fact, Flopzilla uses the exact same file.
So you can even quickly copy your ranges from/to Flopzilla by copying the newdefs2.txt file.
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12-29-2016 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Malupas
in older versions of this diagram is displayed without the flop cards.
how to show the new version?

This used to be a standalone feature, but is now an integral part of the dynamic popup system. The advantage here being that you no longer need to perform any computation for the diagram to be shown. Whenever you make any change in your tree, the diagram will automatically update when you mouse over anything in your tree.

To turn this feature ON, go to "Settings->Dynamic popup settings" and select "Draw card distribution".
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12-29-2016 , 01:08 PM
Hi,

i anderstood, that that the scenario i create with wizzard at the flop(like bet2/3 +raise+3bet+4bet) will continue on the turn and river. But how can i change the betsize(first bet) on the Turn and River, if i want to?

Thanks in advance!

Last edited by Zoty79; 12-29-2016 at 01:20 PM.
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12-30-2016 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoty79
Hi,

i anderstood, that that the scenario i create with wizzard at the flop(like bet2/3 +raise+3bet+4bet) will continue on the turn and river. But how can i change the betsize(first bet) on the Turn and River, if i want to?

Thanks in advance!
At the moment there's no dedicated features to edit bet sizes for an entire tree. The idea behind the wizard as it is now is that bet sizes for the first/second/third/fourth bet are consistent throughout the entire tree, so that players are faced with choices at which point in the hand (flop/turn/river) they want to put in that particular amount.
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12-30-2016 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
At the moment there's no dedicated features to edit bet sizes for an entire tree. The idea behind the wizard as it is now is that bet sizes for the first/second/third/fourth bet are consistent throughout the entire tree, so that players are faced with choices at which point in the hand (flop/turn/river) they want to put in that particular amount.
Hi,

thank you very much! But i read somewhere in the thread, that it is possible to nodlock decisonpoints? So would it be possible to calculate in the flop with 1/3 betsize, and than nodlock it and calculate turn and river with 2/3 betsize in the equilibrium solver?
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12-30-2016 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoty79
Hi,

thank you very much! But i read somewhere in the thread, that it is possible to nodlock decisonpoints? So would it be possible to calculate in the flop with 1/3 betsize, and than nodlock it and calculate turn and river with 2/3 betsize in the equilibrium solver?
I think what you're referring to is that it's possible to edit decisions/actions and lock them for the solver. So, for example, you can set that a player will always bet with ">=top pair" and then lock that action for the solver. If you now re-run the solver, it will keep that action as you entered it, and figure out a near-GTO solution around that restriction. In this manner you can just enter whichever play you see fit in your tree and then let the solver figure out play for the parts of the tree that you haven't locked. However, this feature does not affect the sizes of the bets.

Should you want a more detailed explanation on locking actions, then please watch the part on locking actions in the first video here: http://www.cardrunnersev.com/download.html

Last edited by scylla; 12-30-2016 at 08:10 PM.
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01-03-2017 , 01:32 AM
I uninstalled flopzilla on my old laptop and requested a key for my new one(I have it installed on my desktop also). I'm getting the unsupported operation error. Can you give me step by step instructions for windows 10 on how to save the regkey.dat file to the main directory? Thanks
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01-03-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
I uninstalled flopzilla on my old laptop and requested a key for my new one(I have it installed on my desktop also). I'm getting the unsupported operation error. Can you give me step by step instructions for windows 10 on how to save the regkey.dat file to the main directory? Thanks
Ok, can you please send an e-mail to support?
I'll provide you with instructions by mail.
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01-03-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
If you want to compare the EV for different lines, then the easiest way to do this would be with the analysis tool (press SPACE to bring up the analysis tool) and press F3 for EV mode. I don't really see the problem with the screenshots you've posted though. Can you perhaps elaborate a bit? Do you mean that the numbers in it are hard to read on your screen? Because I don't have any such problem on any of my monitors/laptops.
Hi. Maybe I have poor vision or something. But to me the numbers get increasingly difficult to read as the frequency/shading/color intensity lowers.

And the colors especially. In the top image we clearly see which hands are +EV based on coloring alone. In the bottom image that's ~impossible to make out without reading the EV of each single hand. Every box is white so coloring shows nothing, and numbers are hard to read as well, almost no contrast.

At least given how I use the software it's definitely not good for me.
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01-03-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight
Hi. Maybe I have poor vision or something. But to me the numbers get increasingly difficult to read as the frequency/shading/color intensity lowers.

And the colors especially. In the top image we clearly see which hands are +EV based on coloring alone. In the bottom image that's ~impossible to make out without reading the EV of each single hand. Every box is white so coloring shows nothing, and numbers are hard to read as well, almost no contrast.

At least given how I use the software it's definitely not good for me.
Ok, I'll see if I can add some customization here for future versions.
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01-03-2017 , 05:51 PM
I purchased cardrunners EV in Aug of 2015 for $99. Did I get two keys for that price and you've since changed your pricing model? Fwiw I only installed on one computer when I purchased it
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01-04-2017 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
I purchased cardrunners EV in Aug of 2015 for $99. Did I get two keys for that price and you've since changed your pricing model? Fwiw I only installed on one computer when I purchased it
The pricing model has been changed since then, so you own 1 key.
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01-05-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Ok, I'll see if I can add some customization here for future versions.
Alright, that would be very nice.

Thank you.
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01-07-2017 , 05:35 PM
Hi scylla,
I feel uncomfortable when I ask you question about your software compared to another software but I have to ask, do you think that someday your software will be scriptable like Pio? I think this is the only disadvantage it has and if I had the ability to adapt the software features to my specific needs and by that automatizing features I need to do manually it would be perfect.
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01-08-2017 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceOTR
Hi scylla,
I feel uncomfortable when I ask you question about your software compared to another software but I have to ask, do you think that someday your software will be scriptable like Pio? I think this is the only disadvantage it has and if I had the ability to adapt the software features to my specific needs and by that automatizing features I need to do manually it would be perfect.
Generally speaking, if new features are added, then those will be made public when they are released.
There's no prior anouncements.
So unfortunately I can not answer your question.
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01-08-2017 , 09:46 PM
Scylla, I thought CREV does have a programming/scripting function, as I watched a video on it (but haven't used it).
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01-09-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nzrod
Scylla, I thought CREV does have a programming/scripting function, as I watched a video on it (but haven't used it).
Yes, however, the scripting function pre-dates the solver by about 3 years, having been originally released in 2012. At the moment it's focussed on the ability to script EV runs. Functions for running the solver are however currently not included. There's many different ways to create a scripting effect applied to the solver though, with using the scripting system being one of them. It's entirely possible for this to be included in future versions, however, if/when scripting functions are added it will be made public upon release.

Last edited by scylla; 01-09-2017 at 06:29 PM.
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01-10-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Generally speaking, if new features are added, then those will be made public when they are released.
There's no prior anouncements.
So unfortunately I can not answer your question.
Fair enough, Thanks for the answer.
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01-10-2017 , 01:43 PM
Hi Scylla, I'm trying to fiddle with implied odds, below I tried to simulated a spot. When we are on the river BB bets 49.2, and that value should be Hero's implied odds to make his turn call break even. Why i'm getting a negative number? Also if I set BB bet to 51 I'm getting a negative value... why?



Another question, can you explain a little what EVs means at any point in the graph? I can see that on the turn, BTN EV is the value of a call, but I cannot understand other EVs
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01-10-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Hi Scylla, I'm trying to fiddle with implied odds, below I tried to simulated a spot. When we are on the river BB bets 49.2, and that value should be Hero's implied odds to make his turn call break even. Why i'm getting a negative number? Also if I set BB bet to 51 I'm getting a negative value... why?
On the turn Button invests $25 into his call. This leads him to a spot on the river where his EV is $24.95. So, given that he invested $25 to make $24.95, this comes down to a loss of 5 cents.

To be fair though, it basically seems breakeven to me. I don't know what math you have used to assume it would be exactly breakeven, but possibly you were using rake, which very slightly altered the numbers?

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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Another question, can you explain a little what EVs means at any point in the graph? I can see that on the turn, BTN EV is the value of a call, but I cannot understand other EVs
I suppose the example above is a fairly straightforward example here. BB invests $25 to get into a $24.95 spot, thus losing 5 cents.
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01-10-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
On the turn Button invests $25 into his call. This leads him to a spot on the river where his EV is $24.95. So, given that he invested $25 to make $24.95, this comes down to a loss of 5 cents.

To be fair though, it basically seems breakeven to me. I don't know what math you have used to assume it would be exactly breakeven, but possibly you were using rake, which very slightly altered the numbers?



I suppose the example above is a fairly straightforward example here. BB invests $25 to get into a $24.95 spot, thus losing 5 cents.
I just try to use your program and do some basic calcs, in this instance, I was calculating a implied odds in order to make BE a turn call.
Ty for the reply
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