I would hardly say I try and berate you. I will be the first to say I signed up for a Victory Poker acct the day you guys opened your doors. I will also be the first to say I love your marketing, I love your vision, I love the players you have brought together to form your team. I will also I am quite disapointed on where things stand now - I never depostied b/c there never was and still never are more than two or three cash games going at a time, Your MTT GTD tounies cant even attract 10 players, If you were going to join a network WTF would you join Everleaf, they arent providing you a playerbase - if anything your providing them one (not a very big one I might add) Not to mention the ****y rake structure on Euro games even after you forced them to add some capped tables. I wish you GL, I hope things pick up. Like I said I really love your vision but I just dont see it coming to fruition.

EDIT: 198 total players online. a couple micro nl games, 2 PLO games, and no stud, not a single sitngo or step running, and MTT getting ready to start in 1 min with 1 play registered - he shocked if that thing went off.

Hi vpCEO,

you did not answer my question:

How can you do busines with a partner that is so stupid that can not handle a technical prio1 case in over 2 months?


But somehow they cannot operate with the money in a way that a poker network should! A cashout just cannot take weeks, it just cannot! If they have now more money, maybe would be a good time to hire a real technical Department instead of brainsless idiots who cannot fix prio1 issues in moths! But as no manager can be so stupid not to solve this kind of technical issue in a decent time, then there has to be something else going on here.

Like I said earlier: either they lie OR they are too stupid to solve very import problems. In both cases you should not co-operate with them and neither should one single player join their network!


If really 1000's of people would get paid every month then I have been lied about been priorisized! If there are daily going out payments and I am priorisized, then I should already have received my cashout. This is not the case!

Here are atm so many things wrong and the only solution Everleaf has so far found is lying to their customers!

Priorisized? English my good friend?

If you cant coherently write a response why should anybody take you seriously?

Sorry about my poor English as I am not from England or USA. Please just don't bring the discussion to this kind of level. I think everybody still understand what I am talking about and everybody should understand how the behaviour of Everleaf is making them loosing customers...

I'm curious how we're still calling traffic as rising, when PokerScout clearly shows the graph is falling -- I even posted a screen shot of the graph, with it clearly falling, and was told that it was clearly rising.

BTW, any of our "pros" cash in any events in the wsop?

@ekdikeo: Anybody can go back a page and look at the reply to your Pokerscout posting which I thanked you for because you could see the extremely clear uprising of traffic for 5 months straight.
There's 742 cash players online right this second at 1:57 pm and 650 on Bodog.

The pro's cashed dozens of times, made final tables, etc. Jonathan Little in 3rd, Antonio 12th, Robl cashed in 3 out of 4 tournaments entered, etc.

I'd prefer not to sit and argue schemantics all the time with you. We can openly discuss your feelings and your welcome to be negative all the time but I can only deal with facts.

CEO: What were your general thoughts on the WSOP and Victory's marketing campaign during it? Any lessons learned?

... except for the last 1/6th of that 6-month graph, which was down. Now, there's a slight uptick right after that, and then back to falling. You can say opposite as much as you want, but the data we have available says otherwise.

Mad props to the CEO of Victory. I'm not sure why people hate on this guy. I've never played on his site but he seems like a genuine guy that's willing to answer any question the community has. There aren't many poker site CEOS that would do this.

well he's now accusing me of trash talking his site, but all i'm doing here is pointing out where he says things that are completely wrong. Earlier, I was talking about how one of his "pro"s has absolutely no business representing anyone anywhere for anything, due to being a giant douchebag .. and recently pointed out how their contest to find a sponsored pro from their membership actually had very little to nothing to do with poker itself. I think it's great that he's out here talking ..