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ATOTHEC101 · 08-02-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by placenta

ATOTHEC could you briefly tell us what methods of learning/training you used to rapidly rise up through the stakes in such a short period of time?
Also how many hours a day would you study? I just want to figure out what kind of factors could contribute to such a rise.
I started playing at 25nl and 1yr later was playing 100nl which i was happy with but when i hear about stories like yours it kinda blows me away and makes me feel like im underachieving(obv you could just be a genius or whatever).

I've always been very competitive and don't enjoy anything unless I'm good at it. That created a hunger to improve with the monetary benefits being an added bonus. I vacuumed up any good advice/information I could, be it from the forums I participated in, firstly FlopTurnRiver then 2+2 followed by watching quite a few videos. Though tbh that merely helped me understand the basics. I can attribute my quick elevation through the stakes far more too the games I played in and the people I discussed poker with. I find 100 bb eff play a bit boring, and love deep, so naturally I starting grinding predominantly on the deep ante tables at FTP. I started tables with anyone who would play, naturally the stronger regs. Consistently playing against good opponents 200+ eff, often short handed sculpted my aggressive postflop style and sped up the learning process greatly. I was lucky enough to be young with v few monetary obligations or responsibilities so the thousands that I was playing didn't feel like real money, thus I played with no fear and the monetary swings didn't affect me as much.

As mentioned earlier the second factor was that I was pro-active in befriending the regs who's games I respected, as well as those who were playing higher and perhaps better than me at the time. We would talk strat every day and exchange advice on hands. That and my post session routine which I continue to this day, which revolves around going through every hand, winning or losing down to +/- 5 bbs in HM and deciding if I played the hand optimally or there were any alternate lines I could have used, even if it's a betsize I wasn't happy with by a few $.

My main weakness has always been my work ethic with putting the hours in grinding, never with how much work I did studying the game, which makes me perfect for coaching.

I hope that answers some of your questions, though the best advice I can really give you is to work hard, I've put in 1000's of hours of play/study and these day's now games are a bit harder and winrates lower, putting the hours in and having good mental control is key.

placenta · 08-02-2012, 10:48 PM

Thanks a lot for that, really interesting! I think if i can start doing a detailed session review everytime i finish playing then that alone will probably help me a ton. I think one of my big flaws is not reviewing enough of my own play.

thanks again

newschool2 · 08-03-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101

As with poker in general, though this is even more true with deeper play, there is no absolute answer, everything is situational. Some quick advice I can offer, everyone know's poker is a game of position, it's importance is even more true the deeper you get. For that reason alone I'd advise 3 betting a lot more in position, and tightening up oop. You also change your 3b ranges. Off suit broadway hands drop significantly in value, thus vs decent agro villains flatting stuff like ak/aq off oop becomes more standard. The value of suited hands go up, especially stronger suited stuff, i.e. 100 eff I'm not a big fan of 3 betting weak suited aces oop, as vs your opponents calling range you'll frequently be dominated and on a lot of textures you have v avg equity. Deep the value of these sort of hands goes up dramatically. The main reason being people will attack the same monotone textures that smash your range, not to mention peoples calling ranges deep being a lot more weighted towards suited stuff as well.

On that topic, knowing which textures to attack in the pf callers position is important, when deep in position being extremely aggressive is key, i.e. you open 1010 from the CO 200 eff, reg in the sb 3b's with a 3b % from that position of 10 %. The flop is j97 two h and he cbet's 60 % pot. 100-150 eff he's never going to fold anything he bet purely for value, thus I'm balancing my weaker calling range by flatting my entire range, including sets. Deep this changes as I'm attacking so frequently and expect to have some decent fold equity by the river even unimproved. Oop in his shoes, this is very difficult to counter. He's forced to fold anything he was betting as a bluff with decent bd equity, as 3b bluffing flop isn't really an option as he'd be naturally flatting all his stronger stuff to let me bluff off, even with AA 200 eff+ this will not be an appetising thought. This often leads to a dynamic where he's frequently c/cing oop, either way I win as I can cut out the bluffs from his range and play accordingly vs his value range. This is a very simplified scenario and is basically the tip of the iceberg, but I hope it gives you some insight into the basics of successful deep play.

Enjoyed reading this, ty.

Seems like if you are putting alot of pressure on him when he cbets, that he just needs to chk fold most of his misses (unhappily), his mediocre hands should probably just bet flop and then call down your large raise/barrells, not go into check call mode.. If some type of balance is needed and you don't want a completely exploitative game you would check misses, but also chk your mediocre hands for range protection. But, inn a perfect world the exploitative adjustment is to just give up the misses. (please correct me if you see fault in my logic)

Most importantly: isn't is kind of dumb to 3 bet 10% oop 200bbs deep vs a good player such as yourself? Understandably the point of poker is to hope our opponent plays poorly so we can exploit. I'm not saying people won't because they shouldn't, we all know that is not true.

ATOTHEC101 · 08-04-2012, 12:18 PM

Hey guy's, ignore the rates in my first post, currently getting them updated. In the mean time just letting you know what they are as of now, with them staying this way for the forseeable future. My new rates are $140/hr for 1/2 and below, 190/hr for 2/4+ with some leeway being given to guy's playing a mix of 2/4 and below. In terms of package deals I'm offering the 6th hour at half price, with every 6th hour after that being the same. The reason I thought this was superior to selling for example a 10 hour package, was that I'm not tying up your money, and it remains where it should, in your bankroll. It gives you the freedom to pay on a session by session basis and the opportunity to end our coaching relationship if you're not pleased with the results, which I guarantee won't be the case

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I feel my rates are more than fair for several reasons. Try finding any coach of my quality for under 200/hr, it just won't happen, simply taking a brief look across the listed coaches in this forum and you'll see comparatives with worse results at lower stakes charging 220+. Not to mention I'm always available on skype to go over hand histories whenever you please (free of charge) or to simply chat about poker. I also have no problem going 10-15 mins over our allotted time together and do so consistently.

That's all for now and look forward to hearing from you fine people.

6highisgood · 08-07-2012, 09:25 PM

pmed you

what does it mean "LeggoPoker Pro" in your add?

Matt Probability · 08-07-2012, 10:25 PM

Alex, recently joined LeggoPoker and his first video will be released sometime next month.

Since I'm here I might as well comment on my experience with Alex. He's been great to work with. Very prompt and willing to work hard to achieve the best possible results. I've gone over a few hours of video footage from him and it's all been great. He's excellent at articulating his thoughts without wasting words and we're happy he decided to join the team.