Hi,
I saw that ur post is from 2010. Could u please make an update.
I'm a MTT winning player and I'd like to start some cash. I know the game itself but I have to adapt. I think the best for me is starting with NL 25$, with a quick limit increase.
I'd like a long term deal (>20-30 sessions) so please send me ur offer for each limit.

Thanks and wish u gl!

PM sent

@XulescuX

I don't offer 1-1 coaching at this moment anymore despite demand and people willing to pay 500+ Euro/hour.

In your situation - if you are really motivated - you should apply for our coaching for profits program.

You can apply here: cfp.bestpokercoaching.com/apply.php

or buy courses

www.bestpokercoaching.com

Gordon your sales and marketing material seems very gimmickey and almost predatory.

What do you say to that. I am referencing your activity in this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...1&postcount=13


" You are subscribed to this thread NO-BULL****. NO reviews from friends. Broke donkies making 100k. Publicly Documented. "

This is like those jobs posted all over job boards touting how much money someone will make doing the job....which anyone knows is probably a **** job. And, in fact you will rarely see those results.

JayDulce,

the reason why so many people are poor is because they

* are too lazy to do some simple research before they talk
* they care too much about things that don't improve their lives...essentially cheap entertainment

In your case i'd say you could have taken 5minutes and read some posts in my thread. By then you'd know that BPC is the REAL DEAL! and that what I claim is proven and done in a transparent way (publicly documented from day 1).

I could write a lot more, but they say facts >>>>>>> words, so here is a little bit of that. And if you really care, you can find a TON more... and you can watch their progress from day1 where they were anything, but NOT superstars...

Anyways, here is some food for thought for you:


And this one here:


If you wish to see more, google "hansthegreat" ... probably the BEST 6max player in the world atm at the NL 100/200 level (the best of world is subjective fwiw, but i KNOW how much he is making and at what winrate, and at the same time how many tables... )

Posting one or two people who probably would've succeeded anyway out of an undisclosed sample isn't exactly strong evidence of a good coaching program Gordon.

Hello Gordon,

Is "6 max no Bull-****" your own production or did someone else write it ?

Thank you

Possible shill to change the subject? Someone with only 3 posts? Just curious if you are smart enough to do or it just be a coincidence? Whats your stance on coaches getting help manipulating their threads, Gordon?

I am not. I don't know OP personally but I'd be pissed off at his place to lose time answering to people like you who didn't even take the time to read some pages of the thread or check the blogs of the students who are part of the BPC program. I won't argue anymore about that because all arguments have already been presented in the last 100 pages. Just think about this : students of the BPC program write news on a daily/weekly basis on their blogs on BPC & 2+2, with videos on their youtube channels, answer to MPs, post graphs, etc... and since their first week in the program. Have you already seen that in the past with any coach ? I didn't.
Please be a little respectful to people who are doing their best to create win-win situations honestly and transparently in 2015.

Escroc,

no-bs-6max was written by me. No ghost writer, nothing like that. There are videos with Hansthegreat and myself added.

Seems like you know our community, lmk if you have any other question.

About those trolls:
I don't answer them, unless they serve a purpose. I have a love/hate relationship with them, because they do bring me a lot of money.

I found perhaps the best coach for myself (non poker) because there were a lot of dumb haters. I realized how dumb they were and how good the coach. If dumb people hate him, he must be good...

Why tell this in public? First of all i am open and want to share advice with those who want it..., second of all dumb people are dumb because they don't listen... so i have no worries

Also:
If you read through this thread, you'll find conspiracies such us the one you are accused of all the time. From time to time people pop up and want to convince themselves that they serve some purpose in life.
People who have too much time and try to find some self-worth in their miserable lives will come up with those type of conspiracies all the time.
Always ask yourself why they do what they do...

Don't be distracted by this and just ignore them. Don't argue with them.

Some will stick around for some time, some will find a real purpose in their live and work on themselves and some never will.

(It is kind of ironic tho that he himself registered in July15 LOL... unfortunately i have no time for conspiracies... but sometimes they can be entertaining!!!)

+1

Dizee and DefiniteArticle:

Will you promise to stop posting if i give 10 detailed different case studies? You can also go through the thread and probably find around 50 (less detailed tho).

"+1" is the only thing you're capable of. => LOSER!

It would be interesting if every hater could post one significant thing they have achieved in their live + their age (beating NL5 does NOT count!).

Also, this was rhetorical, because

1) I will do those case studies anyways
2) I want and then I don't necessarily want you to stop posting (see above post on why)
3) I know haters are not achievers


Ok, I'll be more presidential the next days!

I find it unusual that you describe me as a hater when I defend you sometimes as well. You can post any number of case studies, but without the data (number of applications, number of acceptances and number who reach the goal) it's not really any better an indicator, is it? I'm without a doubt not as good a player or coach as many in BPC (this is why I don't charge anything like as much effectively), but I can still come up with case studies of students of mine who have won in excess of 10k - and I don't screen potential students at all (because I don't do CFP deals). You've also been conspicuously absent from KP's thread recently, where there's been some harsh criticism of the program from some players I believe are better than anyone who's been through BPC. I'm not saying BPC is necessarily a bad coaching program, but your advertising is very clearly designed to be superficially attractive and it looks very bad when you claim to be very open with the success of your students but don't actually post any relevant data.

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... more of those?

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...how much more do you want?

There are many many people still on their way

... i will make a big bet that haters are gonna hate anyways!!!

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I totally agree with you. I am just curious which coaching program you are talking about...i mean, the one with only 2 reviews...
Because as far as i know, other coaches here have no reviews at all... i mean the publicly documented stuff from A to Z.

Since you know this thread and had a chance to read one of the million reviews in it, you must have meant something else. I'm curious...

Because you would never just write this despite knowing that there are a TON more reviews out there. Because that would make you... yes...

a TROLL ! - which you're obviously not.

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You are so incredibly smart and experienced.... you likely knew right away that a border cop with 3 children, losing money HU or a broke asian guy are "obviously talented" and making 100k was the most obvious thing to happen.

You must have known the obviousm that an NL50 player (hansthegreat) starting with $50 at NL2 would make 100k in less than 9 months and regular 10-30k+ profit months.
That was just so obvious for you.

(Secret sources say it is only because of 60+% Rakeback and soft Euro sites...that's why everybody else makes those numbers)


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You are also incredibly business savvy. You know exactly how we pick and choose people... you know it even better than the people who choose and get chosen!
You're an incredible person!!!

It is not obvious at all that a coaching for profits program mostly attracks those who need it the most - losing players!!!

But with your incredible intelligence you KNEW only the biggest winners of online poker voluntarily apply to give us 50% of their profit!!!
It is some conspiracy and we're running a darwin-like camp there to only take the best of the best!!!

You're a microstakes player, who has never achieved anything remarkable in poker...not as a player, not as a coach (perhaps as a troll!)... but you know EXACTLY how a business should be run. You KNOW what "sounds bad" and makes people "look bad".

In reality you're a hidden genius! You have 12k posts and i urge every visitor here to read the wisdom you have given to the world. I hope many more useful and well researched comments from you will follow.

/sarcasm

Since i started the coaching for profits program (100% success rate)... we grew. That means unfortunately we couldn't let everybody in because well, we were a small group and 5 coaches can't handle 200 players. This also means less personal attention from myself the bigger we grow, which means we can't keep the 100% success number.

I stopped caring whether 100, 90% or 70% of participants double their record month (or more). I care about the absolute number of players i can help, which is why we made some changes to the program so it can scale. We help those who want to be helped and are willing to do what it takes.

At the end of my life i rather want to have helped 100million people out of 1billion trying than succeeding with 10 out of 10 people.

Anyways buddy, maybe it's time for you to do something with your life first!

I mean, again, you're choosing to divert attention away from the real issue (FWIW I'm a strictly recreational player and think becoming a professional poker player is a bad decision for almost anyone, but please, feel free to continue the personal attack). I'm not a troll, and I'm absolutely prepared to be convinced that what you sell is entirely legit. Let's try a thought experiment:

Let's say of the sample of players who you take on, who are significantly above average in terms of natural ability and work ethic (which is absolutely fine as someone doing a CFP program, but it's worth noting), has an expectation of about 10%* of them making 60k within two years or whatever even without any coaching. If they do the CFP deal, and only 10% of them end up making 60k within two years, then it's pretty obvious to me, as I'm sure it is to everyone else, that despite having a bunch of 'success stories', BPC has in fact contributed absolutely nothing to these players' poker ability. If less than 10% do, then BPC has obstructed their development as poker players, and would still have 'success stories' to share. That's why, no matter how many success stories you quote, they are utterly irrelevant without the raw data of numbers taken on and succeeded. Certainly very far from being more open about results than other coaching programs, if anything it's an obfuscating tactic.

*This number is intended as an example only, I express no opinion as to whether it is the true number.

Because you seem to insist on slinging mud, I feel I should respond to this specifically. I've just graduated with a very strong law degree from the University of Oxford. If you don't count that as 'doing something with your life', I'd question your values.

I certainly don't share your values at all, because the last thing i would do is brag about a paper degree. Paper degrees make you feel entitled without having proven your value to the real world.
Fwiw, i respect that you have done the first step tho, so grats on the degree! (no sarcasm)

Your examples don't portray a lot of intelligence tho. Doesn't mean you are dumb overall, you just don't realize you're totally clueless here because you have no idea about poker, poker coaching and not even statistical analysis, probabilities or logic.
Your argument looks like from an ivory tower academic who definitely needs to get some real world experience. I'll give you a hint and it's about presuppositions and multiplaying negatives never becoming positive.

You're like the poor economist professor with various degrees who tries to lecture the billionaire investor on making money. Your little rat theories are worth dogsht!

Every player with a little common sense knows that what BPC does is beyond fantastic. Show me anything comparable. I mean ANYTHING.
Read what the players write who are in the program. They are the best to judge. Even the very few who are struggling are very grateful and good people.

I'm not arguing law with you, because i'm humble enough to know what i'm good at and what not. When i see a better/richer/whatever , i acknowledge it and try to become better, even if they pissed me off.
Maybe it's time for you to do that as well and be more humble.

I just gotta ask. What in the hell are you talking about here? And, why does any business man who says hes standing at the top of his league.....why would he conduct himself in such a way? You are acting like a dipstick.

Gordon, if you are for real, just let it be. The fact that you've gone from talking ideas to making personal attacks is very childish.

"shakes head" "sarcasm" "little girly talk" "haters gone hate"...give me a break

Quick question regarding the CFP scheme. If a player quits or gets dumped from the program before making the 60k goal, do they get any of the money they have earned up to that point?