Gordon,

Does the video cover fold equity as well?

Sorry for the many posts, I'm not sure how to edit the original.

Hi, you can read which concepts the course covers on the page here, and also watch 3 sample videos: http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/no-bull****-poker-math

The program you mentioned is included for free, yes.

Here's a review we got emailed from a customer a few days ago:

Hi, Gordon. I admire the work you are doing. I'm planning to join NL crusher program next month, I have a few questions about program.

1) When lets say players reach higher limits like NL100 or higher is it possible to cash out some % of winnings for living expenses? I'm asking because I planning to move to Spain for the summer and I'm not sure I will be able to complete program till then if I start on the next month.

2) What is the average time was needed for players who finished this program? I understand that is player dependant, but lets say If I can put 40h/week into program and my NL25 win rate now is around 3bb/100, can you give me some estimations?

1) Yes, this is possible.

2) This is like predicting on how the economy will do in the next 10 years. Looks great if you have 10% every year, compounding. Looks bad if you have 1% or negative growth.
Which one do you use? If you think u suck and are lazy, use the 1%, if you are hardcore Arvars/Hansthegreat style, use growth of 100000%.
You are likely somewhere inbetween.

With those caveats, you should easily finish in 7months, to be honest, it's not even something i would be proud of as a coach if achieved .
Maybe u go lazy for one month, then make it 8.
Maybe you go hardcore, then make it 3.

I'm looking forward to start, thank you for the answers.

I'm interested in the program but apart from your 90's style aggressive marketing there is another thing holding me back from signing up.

"Typical coaching formats and methods you will be trained with:

Live sessions (The coach watches you playing. We rarely us this) "

Not talking about the typo, but the "we rarely use this" part. Live sessions has got to be more effective more than anything. It's just the way I learn best, getting lessons while performing the task as opposed to a more theoretical approach. So how rarely is "rarely"?

Short answer:

Live sweats is something we use very rarely, so translate that to:
Don't expect it at all, only when we believe it's needed

I will not sugar coat this in order to "convince" you. If you believe this is very important to you, then don't join.

One difficulty in our program is that we do things differently. We do things money-making way. Since we take the risk, we also make the rules.

This is prolly not you, but we have some people join and think they can continue doing it "their way", when exactly that has made them into the sucker they are (at the tables).

Anybody who wants to learn the way they wish, we will actually offer more course-style things in the future.

Longer answer:

It's super ineffective in most cases. You just have to believe me there and believe that my judgement of having done thousands of hours of coaching + actually getting results from people... well that i know a thing or two.

For a coach a live session is by far the easiest choice and least work for money.

Doesn't mean it's bad, but it's also the most expensive form of communicating knowledge/concepts. (compare this vs curriculum style, homework + live QnA that we do)

When you as a student pay by the hour, profitability is less of a concern for the coach, but when WE PAY, we have to make sure that it's profitable.

Keep in mind when i gave more live-sessions, it was for people who had a 100k contract, hardcore rules. We started out, i figured out what worked, had lots of room to experiment.

Today the same contract is 30k, so you get MORE value for like 1/5 of the price, but also i'm not going to be on your speed dial.

Last guy who had me on speed dial (could call me any time, demand sessions whenever he wanted) was Atvars. If you put in dedication and volume like him, u will have my number.

Oh btw, even with him we pretty much never did live sessions (maximum 5), because HE said that his time with me is too precious.

So don't believe me, believe our fastest finisher + somebody who makes in todays games regularly 20k+ each month.

@einherjer If you play a lot (40h+) you can get 1on1 HandreviewSessions. In those Sessions some Students have uploaded a recorded live session, which was then reviewed.
im talking about the 6max crusher program btw.

@ThinkItThrough

Thanks for the response, just a couple more questions though.
I haven't really played in years, used to play nl100 but that was in 2011, I've forgotten some plus the game has evolved since then. I just started from scratch again and I still don't have a roll for nl25, just under €300 spread across two sites. Would you recommend that I get to the point where I can beat nl25 again before joining the program (SKILL REQUIRED: NL25+) or is it enough to build my roll up to €500 playing nl10?

Alternatively I could join the micro program, but do we even get any 1 on 1 coaching at the micro program? Might be a consideration anyway if the volume requirement for 6max crusher is too high for me as a student. What is the hands per month volume requirement by the way?

Join the micro program. IMO, start at the bottom, no shame in doing that. Past glory doesn't count today.
20 Euro BR is enough for that (after sec deposit ofc). No 1-1 there, only very specific exceptions (aka, don't count on it).

Again, people seem to be super obsessed with 1-1, when in reality you have 3-7 opportunities EACH WEEK to ask EVERY SINGLE QUESTION to a professional coach. It's like 1-1, just with few other people listening...

There are no requirements for hands/month. We have many recreational players who need to be flexible. We will still motivate/kick your ass though

We will introduce certain benefits to people who put in more work/hours, but this is a bonus and not a requirement.

Cool photo from this years award ceremony: Rylan (yes, he finished another 60k program!), M1ndCrtl, and Atvars.

Since Gordon doesn't have a problem with German tax situation anymore apparently because he is posting his real-life pictures, has he finally revealed his username from the old days? If not, do you mind doing it now, Gordon?

Hey Gordon, VIP Grinder's is telling me that he just needs you to let him know to retag my account so that I can start getting the promotions from them. Can you please do this?

Ballerholic, we have already answered you on email and skype about this issue. If anything is unclear, please feel free to contact us.

September is over and we want to know, if fiber took down the rankings this month?

And "hucol" our HU-Soldier overtook him during the last days:




Check "hucol's" overall graph here:




This is "fiber's" graph, who almost won the rankings, but a new month just started:




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Let us know, should you have any questions and get in touch with us via support@bestpokercoaching.com

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Check his graph since joining our team:




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Hi Ballerholic,

let me ignore the name-calling and non-truths (i still assume you don't do this on purpose aka i don't call you a liar) and just assume you're angry like we all are at times. You can apologize after i have helped you in a way nobody will ever help you.

I will PM you with great tips on how to get what you want and give you even more info that i can't post here in public.

I believe in "one time BPC, always BPC". Even if you try something else or are at a different part of your life, you should always know that you have a place to turn to for any advice around poker.


Short (simplified) Friend to Friend Advice:

- Nobody (no affiliate) re-tracks. Try calling pokerstrategy.com and ask for a retrack (or vip-grinder for that matter). I'd be happy if everybody allows re-tracks because then we'd be the biggest affiliate in the world
- If you want to play on a certain network and already have an account on one site, there are usually many other sites that share the network where you can sign up with any affiliate you wish (Ipoker has like 50 options for example)
- If you haven't played on a site despite signing up, you simply sign up with a new email on the same site



Detailed Answer:

- Retracking. Nobody does this, only in super super special cases
- Rake races are almost in all cases a scam and manipulated (by players tag-teaming up and or affiliates themselves). Affiliates use rake-races to try to scam partners (like us). It's well known, i'm more shocked that players aren't smarter about this stuff. So people make you believe you get x%, but we regularly check and we know the REAL numbers
- with BPC points you get the REAL deal. In many cases even at our own loss, but in return you practically get the best deals anywhere and BPC profits because players no longer get scammed by affiliates, which increases our own profit (CFP !!!)

- BPC never sends people to unsafe sites. We only send very experienced & rich players there and tell them "your money could be gone any day". You will be able to confirm this from the CFP panel you see where we write various comments underneath sites.

Or let me have all players come in whose bankroll i have saved with 3am calls and saving probably by now million(s) by using carefully built up inside connections.

Most affiliates send players to these banana-sites even when those sites have a clear history of scamming directly, through currency exchange scams and stop doing cashouts for 3 months. Why? They earn insane margins there and simply hope you will lose your roll.
They "guarantee" your funds until the funds are gone lol and then they don't pay. Just ask players, and ask yourself why nobody has a 2p2 review thread (it's not expensive for decent sized bznz).

We are always asked to promote this stuff, we get offered BIG TIME MONEY for it. I refuse every single time to send players there.

That's all, so hope emotions calm down and you will make up your own opinion on who the real deal is.

Thanks!

Yeah, not surprised to hear this. This Gordon guy has been shady from the beginning.

I took an hour of HUNL coaching from him back in 2010 or 2011, needless to say it was weirdest coaching session ever, and I have taken lessons from some legit verified coaches for comparison sake. He obviously knew some about poker, but at best he was a random bumhunter knowledge wise, but presented himself as legit high-stakes crusher.

In hindsight I should've known better, guy posting 75K hand graph, not posting his screenname and is twice cheaper than any other legit high-stakes HU coach... And he can speak quite well and confident so I kind of bought what he said and failed to call him out on spot during the coaching session, but after thinking about it, everything he said was super basic and on some spots really wrong. I don't mind his 'cocky' coaching style, but if it's done by the guy who was probably worse both skill-wise and knowledge-wise than his student then it's quite laughable.

PS! Ballerholic, take picture of your post, they delete every negative post usually.

Yeah, 6 years later, others come and go, we have the biggest thread, the only coaches who publicly present REAL results

(don't give me that stuff about only x % win blabla... even IF that were the case, the "competition" is still at 0 ;D )

Today Nubson just recently made a 20k winning month, 100% of money goes into his own pocket.

Also another guy who made a 30k month with the "terrible coaching" ... (here its 25, it increased to 30)

2012, my first CFP student, broke guy, never played HU in his life.

Made 100k in 9 month.

Guy is still playing in todays games battling 1k regs. We had 2 fun matches, today i have to take compliments from him instead of the other way around.

2012... coached him, he made 30-35k 2 times and then he finished the CFP program (he was the first)...everybody here probably knows him. 100k in 9 months...never played a hand of HU before in his life, before getting coached.

Look, what a "terrible" coach (according to VirginCodecci) can do

Makes his first 5 figures...

But wait! There is more

VirginCodecci has never made anybody successful in his life (not even himself!).

Thought that's all?

We can go on

It's fun to search the BIGGEST coaching thread in the history of 2p2.

500k+ views, some haters - some of which have come around over time and are actually good people (Keyser for example) - some who will stay forever bitter like VirginCodecci.

Whenever i wanna take a sh$t on ugly low lives like VirginCodecci, all i have to do is being positive and copy-pasting and take a beautiful bath in success.

Others have to compensate for their little d$ck by being a miserable basement rat and posting mental diarrea in the most successful coaching program the poker world has ever seen.

Stop hiding behind the screen tough warrior!