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06-03-2013 , 04:05 PM

heidigriffin

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 198

So were playing 80 a rack pure slop 9 ball game at a bar (the type you put quarters in to get a rack)....so my buddy does a 3 4 9 combo sinks it and the cue ball...he claims he still wins? I claim its a match loss...bartender / owner says its a match loss...rando guy says its a spotted up 9 and i get ball in hand on new object ball?

06-03-2013 , 10:45 PM

GarthAlgar

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,332

As far as I know, the 9 is spotted and you get ball in hand. Playing for 80 a game, you should really clarify the rules before you start. By not, it only creates problems and starts fights.

06-04-2013 , 08:58 AM

llDayo

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 461

Spotted 9 in my area. This isn't 8-ball.

06-04-2013 , 10:02 AM

whosnext

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,733

9 ball spotted, ball in hand

06-04-2013 , 11:31 AM

tthree

old hand

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,578

Spot the 9, definitely not a win for your friend

06-04-2013 , 03:14 PM

MirZolzayn

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,998

There are two different rulings (Tournament dependent):
1. He loses (more common)
2. 9 Respot, Ball in hand for you.

06-04-2013 , 04:03 PM

DZC

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 158

I vote spot the 9. Just like if you make the 9 on the snap and scratch, its not a loss, you just spot it up.

06-08-2013 , 06:50 PM

aseHigh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11,883

Quote:

Originally Posted by whosnext

9 ball spotted, ball in hand

06-09-2013 , 01:07 AM

cheer

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,375

Most bar tables don't let you pull balls that drop, so in that case I would vote that your buddy loses.

06-09-2013 , 01:17 AM

#10

DZC

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 158

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheer

Most bar tables don't let you pull balls that drop, so in that case I would vote that your buddy loses.

True, but you have six extras to sub for the 9

06-11-2013 , 03:51 PM

#11

swighey

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,556

Spot the nine (or a 10-15 ball), ball in hand. Or agree beforehand that the table wins, your buddy loses and you move on to the next rack. Playing 80 a game I can see why you wouldn't want to sub the 9, and also why you wouldn't want to play "bar table beats you both and the game is over" rules - maybe play on a proper table, or just play for fun in the bar and enjoy life?

06-12-2013 , 10:13 AM

#12

Frank the Tank

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,458

Spot the 9, you get ball in hand.

06-13-2013 , 09:11 PM

#13

falldown

veteran

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,145

Spot the 9, ball in hand. Every time.

06-15-2013 , 05:58 PM

#14

swighey

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,556

Quote:

Originally Posted by falldown

Spot the 9, ball in hand. Every time.

can be a problem though on a coin table when you have no balls left to spot.

06-16-2013 , 02:35 PM

#15

GarthAlgar

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by swighey

can be a problem though on a coin table when you have no balls left to spot.

If you scratch on the 9ball six times to where you run out of balls to spot. You shouldnt be playing pool for money.

06-17-2013 , 09:44 AM

#16

Frank the Tank

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,458

^ Amen.

06-18-2013 , 03:23 PM

#17

swighey

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,556

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarthAlgar

If you scratch on the 9ball six times to where you run out of balls to spot. You shouldnt be playing pool for money.

Of course. Should still have a ruling though. After all this thread is about that.

06-21-2013 , 05:42 PM

#18

ChipRunna

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 49

For $80 a rack, if you're not comfy using a 10 ball or such, or have run out of extra balls.. The guilty party need to pony up 4 quarters and retrieve the 9... Consider it a tax on scratching!

Last edited by ChipRunna; 06-21-2013 at 05:55 PM. Reason: Grammar

06-21-2013 , 07:53 PM

#19

falldown

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipRunna

For $80 a rack, if you're not comfy using a 10 ball or such, or have run out of extra balls.. The guilty party need to pony up 4 quarters and retrieve the 9... Consider it a tax on scratching!

This is correct, IMO.

06-22-2013 , 10:58 AM

#20

GarthAlgar

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipRunna

For $80 a rack, if you're not comfy using a 10 ball or such, or have run out of extra balls.. The guilty party need to pony up 4 quarters and retrieve the 9... Consider it a tax on scratching!

Lol, I like it... Although I would probably save the $1 and use the 10ball

06-22-2013 , 11:03 AM

#21

falldown

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarthAlgar

Lol, I like it... Although I would probably save the $1 and use the 10ball

You both agree. He said once you have run out of extra balls.

06-25-2013 , 04:26 AM

#22

WhySoSrs?

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 294

I have seen about 5 things happen in this case, its different everywhere you go. Fairest is spot the 9 with ball in hand.

03-13-2014 , 03:56 PM

#23

x2thep

banned

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 57

yup

03-14-2014 , 06:33 AM

#24

RichGangi

Laughable false & highly douchey

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9,546

Huge LOL at your 'buddy' claiming he wins.

03-24-2014 , 05:32 AM

#25

wet work

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,260

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichGangi

Huge LOL at your 'buddy' claiming he wins.

lol yea.

since the bartender/bar owner say loss, i'm fine w/ house rules.
also fine w/ spotting/bih. but definitely not ok with a win there. LOL.

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